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Please tell me there are some people who aren't on the Indoctrination bandwagon


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ShepardTheHopeful

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Edit: I am not bashing the indoctrination theory I just am not convinced it's the best solution I've thought of the ending and in a lot of ways Indoctrination just doesn't fit. If any supporters of the fans have questions towards why I think otherwise I am happy to answer them. I am not personally calling the theory spam or moronic I'm simply stating I don't see the dots connecting as well as you do and I don't want that to be my ending. But with all the support I was afraid Bioware might make it the ending so I made this thread.  

Seriously it's not that great a theory a ton of time and effort was indeed made to it but there's too many other factors to deem it the best theory ever and that Bioware should do it. Am I seriously alone in NOT wanting the indoctrination theory to be the new ending? 

For those of you curious as to why I'm not a fan I have a post about the logical counter arguments I could think of at the time. It needs tweaks and there is a different theory I am working on but aside from that check it out if you want.

http://social.biowar.../index/10468976 

I don't think it's wrong to have hope towards a different ending but misguided hope can be as bad as the ending itself. Least that's how I feel.

Modifié par ShepardTheHopeful, 23 mars 2012 - 03:13 .


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Dhraconus

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I'm not on the "bandwagon." I don't believe it is 'true' for a second. There is just no good reason to believe Bioware intended it and lots of reason to believe they didn't.

On the other hand it is 'plausible' as a theory and could be used as a way to expand the ending and fix many of the issues. (but this would be a post hoc explanation and not an original intention)

It wouldn't be my preferred 'fix' but if it comes to be... meh.

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Jtdrainz

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I can't say I've ever really bought into it and always looked at it for what it was wishful fan fiction, But hey looking at the endings we were delivered...

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ZodiEmish

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If it makes you feel better. I don't believe in the indoctrination theory.... but I do believe that the indoctrination theory is only possible due to all the plot holes. I also believe that there is a high chance that bioware will grab a hold of the theory and claim it for their own.

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Swinns

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I don't. It's just people reaching for strings and calling it a sweater.

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JerZey CJ

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I'm on the "I'm Confused and would like a few more Answers" bandwagon
*just beat the game

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dreaming_raithe

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I'm not on the bandwagon either.

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John Locke N7

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its obviously not true. anyone one who believes it is just stupid

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PsychoticBiotic

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Dhraconus wrote...

I'm not on the "bandwagon." I don't believe it is 'true' for a second. There is just no good reason to believe Bioware intended it and lots of reason to believe they didn't.

On the other hand it is 'plausible' as a theory and could be used as a way to expand the ending and fix many of the issues. (but this would be a post hoc explanation and not an original intention)

It wouldn't be my preferred 'fix' but if it comes to be... meh.

I agree. The Indoctrination Theory could be their easy way out, but is it the best way? 

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JaylaClark

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I'm not on the Indoc bandwagon. I'd like a 'this isn't quite what happened' explanation to gloss the logic holes, but... Indoc really doesn't do it for me.

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Meshaber

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I have yet to join the fanfiction club.

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NightHawkIL

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I wish I did, as some people have turned to enjoy the ending because they believe it. But no, I do not think it was the intended plot. In fact, even if BW came forward and said it was their plan all along I would call BS. The ending is just plain bad.

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Vandalisme

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While i dont agree with John Locke, i dont belive the indoc theory : 
http://i.imgur.com/3D9ST.jpg screenshot from final hours and a spreadsheet from bioware.

Modifié par Vandalisme, 23 mars 2012 - 02:22 .


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Reptilian Rob

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Bioware has pretty much come out and said that these were the intended endings.

Indoc theory is just trying to alleviate the pain.

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Stygian1

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never believed it

But if bioware rolled with it I would not complain.

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calis_riakel

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I'm not. I'm on the ****ty ending bandwagon

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NightAntilli

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I'm not, and I hope BioWare doesn't jump on it, unless it was already planned.

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PeaceMack

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I don't buy it either. I think it's just people desperately trying to make sense out of nonsense; extract meaning out of the meaningless. I don't blame them for that.

It could be a segue into a "real" ending for a DLC, but I don't even want that. The ending is already plenty long and pretentious as it is. Heck, just cutting off the ending with the Anderson scene would be fine with me. Shephard struggles, presses the magic button, boom! fade to white...Hackett's voice fades out saying something like, "hold the line", queue epilogue.

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Mcjon01

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I reject it on grounds of that's not how indoctrination works, and even if it was it would be horrible storytelling.

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Hirosama_White-PR

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Swinns wrote...

I don't. It's just people reaching for strings and calling it a sweater.


Agreed

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DannieCraft

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 I don't belive it.

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demin8891

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I'm just too lazy to take it out of my sig.

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Wolven_Soul

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ShepardTheHopeful wrote...

 Seriously it's not that great a theory a ton of time and effort was indeed made to it but there's too many other factors to deem it the best theory ever and that Bioware should do it. Am I seriously alone in NOT wanting the indoctrination theory to be the new ending? 


While I do not think that it was what Bioware intended, they sure ha heck made it look that way.  But I would love for it to be true.  If Bioware had gone that way, then it would have been some of the best stuff I have ever seen in gaming period. 

You cannot blame so many people for believing in it though, it really is the only theory that makes this ending make any sense. 

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I didn't buy it from the start, simply because it is a FAR simpler explanation that Bioware simply fracked up the ending than it being an elaborate marketing gimmick that would run the risk of pissing off/alienating fans just by existing that NO higher up would likely approve as a gambit.

Occam's Razor is a wonderful thing.

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Not on the bandwagon.
It's just some crackpot theory that people invented to try to hide from the bad endings. I shudder at the possibility that Bioware may run with that dumb idea.