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devSin wrote...

Filby08 wrote...

How come James grew boobs in my playthrough?

Because he was juicing?

Batarian tatoo artists lace their needles with estrogen. True story.

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Do you think James was on steroids?

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7he Island Head wrote...

Do you think James was on steroids?


Is Snooki's tan fake?

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blah64 wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

Do you think James was on steroids?


Is Snooki's tan fake?

Yes!

:3

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7he Island Head wrote...

blah64 wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

Do you think James was on steroids?


Is Snooki's tan fake?

Yes!

:3



Well there you go then.

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The file that loads the N7 breathing scene is called Shepard_live(or alive iirc), so I think it's a dead-give away.

End of discussion.

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Fingertrip wrote...

The file that loads the N7 breathing scene is called Shepard_live(or alive iirc), so I think it's a dead-give away.

End of discussion.

Out of a matter of interest how does one check such a thing? I'm guessing you can only do so on PC?

Modifié par 7he Island Head, 23 mars 2012 - 03:57 .


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i dont think vega was fully apart of n7 at the time of the assault. and even if he was, if this is what we are going to get for a dlc, ill pass... ill pass hard...

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seek37 wrote...

i dont think vega was fully apart of n7 at the time of the assault. and even if he was, if this is what we are going to get for a dlc, ill pass... ill pass hard...

you'd pass up Mass Effect 4 - Space Magic Jungle Adventure, featuring the vioce talents of Freddie Prince Jr.? you're loco 

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The  N7 dog tag is of Commander Shepard and he wakes up either in Citadel or on London streets.

In my fourth playthrough and with 6785 EMS I have noticed four permanent things post my decision with Crucible -they dont change :
1.Normandy lands on a garden world with 2 moons after being shot out off FTL - James n Joker comes out of it to seek the beauty of a lovely sunrise - so James is not   in a rubble with a N7 dogtag on his neck - this scene is common for all destroy ending.
2.Ashley hesitates to put Cdr Shepard's name on the Normandy memorial - a big smile on her face follows- as Admiral Hackett keeps saying that they will honor the dead and respect those(who lives) who had gifted the organic civilisation its future with extinction of the Reapers
3.Normandy lifts off just then starting on a journey towards earth probably.
4.This very scene is followed by a lot of noice - as if debris is being lifted off-clearing is going on and a scorched armor clad body with Alliance colored debris breathes up revealing a N7 dog tag - datz the Commander - the Shepard.


Conclusions :
Destroy Reapers to extinction if Shepard has to be kept alive - Control n Synthesis are very much indoctrinated endings for Reaper survival.
According to the Leviathans this catalyst thing(faking the kid form from Shep's dreams) is the very AI - the Construct which betrayed them - in Javik's words - destroy path is the right choice - so destroy end doesnt hurt.

So Shepard wakes up ?  - but where ? Good question:
Might be Citadel : in the aftermath scenes - there is this one scene which shows a broken Citadel in Earth's orbit - next scene zooms into its Wards where it can be seen tall war ravaged citadel towers - concrete like debris all around - Citadel main generators might be dysfunctional - but back up generators maintains its artificial gravity - huge life casuality on Citadel is eminent in the broken arm - but our Shepard lies near the central pinnacle-justifying the presence of debris all around.

Might be London : well - Harbinger's laser hit Shepard in the sour spot - he is just a human afterall with a strong will power - he is hit hard - decapacitated from exposure - then lives his near death - out of body experience - his conciousness reaches the Citadel beam and then fires the Crucible the way it wants - The illusive man and Anderson (just look at their faces-they are already dead) have already tried Controlling and Destroying the beacons but have died in the process and then started influencing Shep's conciousness in their spiritual form.Again Shep falls down while answering Hackett's query dat the Crucible is doing nothing even being docked - datz just the radio which is croaking beside Shep's barely concious body hit by Reaper laser and Shep tries even harder to fire the energy with his conscience - then he meets the Construct - Shep's conciousness gives it the shape of the child from his dreams and the one who was shot down on the day Reapers invaded earth - actually the rascal Construct tries to influence aka indoctrinate Shep's conciousness itself now - it will fail if the player makes Shepard go for the destroy choice - it suceeds in the other two,control and synthesis - since those are alternative options suggested by the Construct indoctrination.
So Shepard's conciousness is the energy which the Construct indicates mixing up with Crucible energy for Synthesis life form : if player chooses Synthesis also the same energy may replace the Construct to control the Reapers - so it becomes the new Catalyst.
Shepard's conciousness is the energy which wont return to Shepard's body in the above two scenarios - he is very dead then.
Shepard's conciousness can return in the destroy ending -coz in this, his physical body is not near the conduit - its the conciousness which expresses its will by blowing up the red conduit via a signature weapon-handgun(just like it was in Geth network)
Once the Crucible gets fired for good - Shepard's conciousness returns to his body - fatigued as it is with cybernetic implants destroyed - it remains in blackout - then hours after the battle, as rescue and recon teams scours the debris - Shep's conciousness breathes life back into the battered body.

The Commander lives - Ashley gets the news moments from putting the name on the memorial board - the Normandy picks up pace to get its Captain.

The over excited game developers themselves wanted a sequel right away - so they came with this post credits scenario - theres the Granpa and his sweet grandchild on a planet which is not earth (never seen another planet that big in earthly sky) - implying human civilisation is spread far and wide across galaxy and there are more stories about "The Shepard" - legendary commander of the Alliance forces of mother planet Earth.

So the sequel dat is ME4 - is going to carry Shep's children(darn Construct says dat "your" children are going to suffer if reapers are destroyed coz synth's wud destroy org life widout Reapers-instead of being harvested for conservation)- and his legacy of decisions and how it affects the galaxy post Krogan genophage solution,ruined Asari civilsation,Quarian Rannoch and Geth cooperation/elimination,all these and a couple of destroyed Mass Relays and Turian set back- Batarian and Salarian extinction - Vorcha abundance- Javik on Hanar world and Aria in Omega - all of that and of course - Ultimate power of Allaince over the whole Milky Way galaxy - Citadel lies docked on Earth's orbit ;)




 



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Opening up a 3 year old thread? You would be better off making a new thread


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Is this an all-time necro record for this board?


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Arise,arise,oh thread so dead,arise,arise to post again!



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The N7 dog tag is of Commander Shepard and he wakes up either in Citadel or on London streets.

In my fourth playthrough and with 6785 EMS I have noticed four permanent things post my decision with Crucible -they dont change :
1.Normandy lands on a garden world with 2 moons after being shot out off FTL - James n Joker comes out of it to seek the beauty of a lovely sunrise - so James is not in a rubble with a N7 dogtag on his neck - this scene is common for all destroy ending.
2.Ashley hesitates to put Cdr Shepard's name on the Normandy memorial - a big smile on her face follows- as Admiral Hackett keeps saying that they will honor the dead and respect those(who lives) who had gifted the organic civilisation its future with extinction of the Reapers
3.Normandy lifts off just then starting on a journey towards earth probably.
4.This very scene is followed by a lot of noice - as if debris is being lifted off-clearing is going on and a scorched armor clad body with Alliance colored debris breathes up revealing a N7 dog tag - datz the Commander - the Shepard.


Conclusions :
Destroy Reapers to extinction if Shepard has to be kept alive - Control n Synthesis are very much indoctrinated endings for Reaper survival.
According to the Leviathans this catalyst thing(faking the kid form from Shep's dreams) is the very AI - the Construct which betrayed them - in Javik's words - destroy path is the right choice - so destroy end doesnt hurt.

So Shepard wakes up ? - but where ? Good question:
Might be Citadel : in the aftermath scenes - there is this one scene which shows a broken Citadel in Earth's orbit - next scene zooms into its Wards where it can be seen tall war ravaged citadel towers - concrete like debris all around - Citadel main generators might be dysfunctional - but back up generators maintains its artificial gravity - huge life casuality on Citadel is eminent in the broken arm - but our Shepard lies near the central pinnacle-justifying the presence of debris all around.

Might be London : well - Harbinger's laser hit Shepard in the sour spot - he is just a human afterall with a strong will power - he is hit hard - decapacitated from exposure - then lives his near death - out of body experience - his conciousness reaches the Citadel beam and then fires the Crucible the way it wants - The illusive man and Anderson (just look at their faces-they are already dead) have already tried Controlling and Destroying the beacons but have died in the process and then started influencing Shep's conciousness in their spiritual form.Again Shep falls down while answering Hackett's query dat the Crucible is doing nothing even being docked - datz just the radio which is croaking beside Shep's barely concious body hit by Reaper laser and Shep tries even harder to fire the energy with his conscience - then he meets the Construct - Shep's conciousness gives it the shape of the child from his dreams and the one who was shot down on the day Reapers invaded earth - actually the rascal Construct tries to influence aka indoctrinate Shep's conciousness itself now - it will fail if the player makes Shepard go for the destroy choice - it suceeds in the other two,control and synthesis - since those are alternative options suggested by the Construct indoctrination.
So Shepard's conciousness is the energy which the Construct indicates mixing up with Crucible energy for Synthesis life form : if player chooses Synthesis also the same energy may replace the Construct to control the Reapers - so it becomes the new Catalyst.
Shepard's conciousness is the energy which wont return to Shepard's body in the above two scenarios - he is very dead then.
Shepard's conciousness can return in the destroy ending -coz in this, his physical body is not near the conduit - its the conciousness which expresses its will by blowing up the red conduit via a signature weapon-handgun(just like it was in Geth network)
Once the Crucible gets fired for good - Shepard's conciousness returns to his body - fatigued as it is with cybernetic implants destroyed - it remains in blackout - then hours after the battle, as rescue and recon teams scours the debris - Shep's conciousness breathes life back into the battered body.

The Commander lives - Ashley gets the news moments from putting the name on the memorial board - the Normandy picks up pace to get its Captain.

The over excited game developers themselves wanted a sequel right away - so they came with this post credits scenario - theres the Granpa and his sweet grandchild on a planet which is not earth (never seen another planet that big in earthly sky) - implying human civilisation is spread far and wide across galaxy and there are more stories about "The Shepard" - legendary commander of the Alliance forces of mother planet Earth.

So the sequel dat is ME4 - is going to carry Shep's children(darn Construct says dat "your" children are going to suffer if reapers are destroyed coz synth's wud destroy org life widout Reapers-instead of being harvested for conservation)- and his legacy of decisions and how it affects the galaxy post Krogan genophage solution,ruined Asari civilsation,Quarian Rannoch and Geth cooperation/elimination,all these and a couple of destroyed Mass Relays and Turian set back- Batarian and Salarian extinction - Vorcha abundance- Javik on Hanar world and Aria in Omega - all of that and of course - Ultimate power of Allaince over the whole Milky Way galaxy - Citadel lies docked on Earth's orbit ;)





Nope. Ark theory or some semblance of it is probably right. Not only will ME4 NOT be based off of "Shepard's children" (especially since romance is non-canon...) but it also likely won't address any of the ME3 endings at all.

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Opening up a 3 year old thread? You would be better off making a new thread


Especially considering the amount of digging to find the thread in the first place.

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7th Island....my god it has been too long without you. By far one of the best trolls BSN has and will ever seen. I still remember Operation Necro.

 

Personally, I see a fitting semblance in this necro.

 

Not only does it remind us of those that were lost to the ban hammer, but it does so in doing what 7th Island loved to do - necro topics.

 

either that or it is just an out of place necro post that is spouting more IT Headcanon.



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nowt wrong with IT, as a part of something on a much grander scale.

 

Shepard breathes = win.



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Oh new posters, always doing necros...



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he is just a human afterall with a strong will power - he is hit hard - decapacitated from exposure - then lives his near death - out of body experience - his conciousness reaches the Citadel beam and then fires the Crucible the way it wants - The illusive man and Anderson (just look at their faces-they are already dead) have already tried Controlling and Destroying the beacons but have died in the process and then started influencing Shep's conciousness in their spiritual form.Again Shep falls down while answering Hackett's query dat the Crucible is doing nothing even being docked - datz just the radio which is croaking beside Shep's barely concious body hit by Reaper laser and Shep tries even harder to fire the energy with his conscience - then he meets the Construct - Shep's conciousness gives it the shape of the child from his dreams and the one who was shot down on the day Reapers invaded earth - actually the rascal Construct tries to influence aka indoctrinate Shep's conciousness itself now - it will fail if the player makes Shepard go for the destroy choice - it suceeds in the other two,control and synthesis - since those are alternative options suggested by the Construct indoctrination.

Maybe too good post for such old topic.

 

I think best stories are about battles of the minds, and it'd be interesting if ME3's ending was literally one. It's been established how the reapers can affect your thoughts wirelessly somehow, after all. It's been also established Shepard doesn't fall under mind control easily, aside from the ones that fall for Morinth, but they should hardly get beyond ME2 canonically anyway. So near the ending something finally gets inside your head, but you can turn the attempt against them. I still think Control and Synthesis are valid choices too, though I dislike Synthesis, but Destroy is the safest bet.

 

The thing is, this makes it sound like AI could have a mind, if you can break it, and I don't buy that. I've loved Mass Effect for not forcing the AI are also human tone on me. Not saying they're denying it at all, just kept it nicely optional. :) I guess I could always explain it by war assets and readiness including hackers, if I don't wish to think about it more. War comes with propaganda.

 

 

(I'm still bit bitter from the time when I for the fist time played Mass Effect series and afterwards completely excited about the whole thing wished to see what others were thinking, big portion of internet was full of spam by some herd mentality horde, who even just ripped off the whole scandal from Lost fandom (now Lost's ending was actually dismissive about the story - and you could get impression from ME3 its writers watched Lost too and wanted to make an ending that actually resolves and changes things, instead of concentrating mostly on who's boning who, although of course I can't and shouldn't speak for others). I still don't know should I dare to read forums more often by now, and definitely I'd rather not read old conversations. But people shouldn't be discouraged from writing new comments when they think for themselves.)



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nowt wrong with IT, as a part of something on a much grander scale.
 
Shepard breathes = win.


Problem with that is there is no grander scale.

What we got wasn't great but at least it's an ending.

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but it also likely won't address any of the ME3 endings at all.

There are some revelations from the next development chairs that the ME4 universe is set after ME3 events..................it would be very much awkward if the ME4 is in the same universe and is unaffected by a great galactic war and its aftermath.

Its more exciting to see how the game responds to the choices we made in its universe rather than just grabbing a gun and running for stage completion on instructions over phone - datz what makes Mass Effect stand apart from all other great EA games like Crysis,Dead Space and non EA greats like F.E.A.R and Bioshock - in these the outcomes affects only the player and not the entire universe.

The only other games up there in a league of Mass Effect would be the Fallout series and Witcher series for sporting almost similar(though less pronounced) alteration to the game's universe depending on the player's choices.

By far Mass Effect 3 is a complete space age war game where every decision is strategic and matters greatly in winning or losing the war - definitely my best.

Thats it, done with ME3.............bucks ready for ME4.....the wait is itself seeming like stranded in light years though



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Maybe too good post for such old topic.

Thank you for that - amid  my life a century before ME events :P really take place and living the future of humanity - I dint find this discussion till recently - its like unearthing Prothean ruins and letting Javik out :P

 

The thing is, this makes it sound like AI could have a mind, if you can break it, and I don't buy that. I've loved Mass Effect for not forcing the AI are also human tone on me. Not saying they're denying it at all, just kept it nicely optional. :)

I personally imply nothing - its what the game showed regarding that Construct ass - its creator in game - Leviathans says dat it betrayed them and the Construct also gives Shepard options in which Reapers wont be extinct.I think we organics(this is where it gets real) feel that this Construct character of Mass Effect and AI like EDI are providing options just like it has a mind of its own - but no - they are very calculated options dat they propose and we can reject them any time if we are not influenced/impressed(indoctrinated) by those calculations.
AI calculations and proposals are pretty measured minimising collateral damage - but I am a human who loves fossil fuel gas guzzler V8s in comparison to clean electronic ass wipes.So Destroy is what I went for without letting the AIs calculations affecting my mind
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Problem with that is there is no grander scale.

What we got wasn't great but at least it's an ending.

 

 

ITers and IT in general are haunted by those two most terrible words...what, if

 

And...quite frankly..."what, if" is waaaaay more appealing than the crap we got - to some.



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There are some revelations from the next development chairs that the ME4 universe is set after ME3 events..................it would be very much awkward if the ME4 is in the same universe and is unaffected by a great galactic war and its aftermath.

Its more exciting to see how the game responds to the choices we made in its universe rather than just grabbing a gun and running for stage completion on instructions over phone - datz what makes Mass Effect stand apart from all other great EA games like Crysis,Dead Space and non EA greats like F.E.A.R and Bioshock - in these the outcomes affects only the player and not the entire universe.

The only other games up there in a league of Mass Effect would be the Fallout series and Witcher series for sporting almost similar(though less pronounced) alteration to the game's universe depending on the player's choices.

By far Mass Effect 3 is a complete space age war game where every decision is strategic and matters greatly in winning or losing the war - definitely my best.

Thats it, done with ME3.............bucks ready for ME4.....the wait is itself seeming like stranded in light years though

Nope. No such "revelations" have been made. In fact, Bioware has repeatedly stated the exact opposite, while ALSO strongly hinting at a side story or midiquel that will be unaffected by the endings of the Shepard trilogy.

It will be a stand alone story, in a previously unexplored part of the galaxy and/or space, set during the events of ME1-3 or starting shortly before and then continuing after ME3, satisfying the dev statements of "not a true sequel".

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Something that is not a true sequel could also be that they're going to ignore the ending altogether and give us the "purple ending." You know, one that makes some sense.