Sorry if this has been asked, but the forum Search function gave me no results.
I'm a female human noble, have completed a romance with Alistair, have 100% devotion from him, and am a master of Coercion. When I returned to Eamon's estate after saving Anora, I was given lots of dialogue options, including the option of Alistair marrying Anora. After talking with Eamon and Anora, I talk to Alistair... there appears to be no option for me to ask him to marry me instead. I've reloaded and tried several conversation trees; none of them leads me to the result I want.
Is this the point in time where becoming his queen is a conversational option? If so, have I done something wrong? I did calm him after meeting his sister... it seemed cruel to do otherwise. Is that the problem?
How can I marry Alistair?
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Posté 01 décembre 2009 - 12:39
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Wait for the Landsmeet, and some Persuade options later there will be "I will rule by Alistair's side as Queen," option or something like that.
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Posté 01 décembre 2009 - 12:49
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You have to wait till the landsmeet. After the duel make sure Loghain is executed (Allistair won't be happy otherwise), when Arl Eamon asks you who should rule, you should get a persuade option that goes "Alistair will be King, and I will rule beside him". Your coercion might have to be maxed. After landsmeet is over Allistair will talk to you about the "engagement".
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Posté 01 décembre 2009 - 12:50
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And cut back on the "woot." Nobody wants a queen that says "woot."
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Posté 01 décembre 2009 - 12:51
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Taleroth wrote...
And cut back on the "woot." Nobody wants a queen that says "woot."
I lol'd XD
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Posté 01 décembre 2009 - 02:56
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Does anyone have any confirmation of possibility (or lack thereof) to take the throne at Alistair's side as another origin?
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Posté 01 décembre 2009 - 02:57
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Confirming the lack thereof. Only Human Noble can take the throne.DalVel wrote...
Does anyone have any confirmation of possibility (or lack thereof) to take the throne at Alistair's side as another origin?
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Posté 01 décembre 2009 - 02:59
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pfft, discrimination!
needed to know before deciding on the romantic path of my city elf archer lass.
needed to know before deciding on the romantic path of my city elf archer lass.
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Posté 01 décembre 2009 - 02:59
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Can't be done if you aren't human royalty. But you can get him to marry Anora for convenience and keep you as his lover on the side.
Announcing that you will marry him at the Landsmeet without telling him before is pretty funny. Can be done even if you aren't romancing him. You can then tell him that it's just an arrangement.
Announcing that you will marry him at the Landsmeet without telling him before is pretty funny. Can be done even if you aren't romancing him. You can then tell him that it's just an arrangement.
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Posté 01 décembre 2009 - 03:00
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DalVel wrote...
Does anyone have any confirmation of possibility (or lack thereof) to take the throne at Alistair's side as another origin?
That would just be weird. Particularly for dwarves. In fact, just the idea of Alistair and a Dwarf Female make me want to gag.
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Posté 01 décembre 2009 - 03:08
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This is weird because when after landsmeet Alistair tells the character they can't be together anymore the only reason he states is not that they are of different races or that she is not noble but that they are both Grey Wardens and double taint, so to speak, would prevent them from conceiving a child, and Ferelden needs an heir. What's so different about a human Grey Warden? Does nobility cancel out the taint? I'm dissapointed about this inconsistency! If he said, there's no way Ferelden would welcome an elven queen or there can't be any half-breeds that's fine cause it makes sense! But the way they've done it just doesn't 
ps there wasnt any option to propose being his lover 'on the side'. he was just breaking the relationship up completely. Ah!
ps there wasnt any option to propose being his lover 'on the side'. he was just breaking the relationship up completely. Ah!
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Posté 01 décembre 2009 - 03:09
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He's a coward and a liar. Only thing I can think of.Inzhuna wrote...
This is weird because when after landsmeet Alistair tells the character they can't be together anymore the only reason he states is not that they are of different races or that she is not noble but that they are both Grey Wardens and double taint, so to speak, would prevent them from conceiving a child, and Ferelden needs an heir. What's so different about a human Grey Warden? Does nobility cancel out the taint? I'm dissapointed about this inconsistency! If he said, there's no way Ferelden would welcome an elven queen or there can't be any half-breeds that's fine cause it makes sense! But the way they've done it just doesn't
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Posté 01 décembre 2009 - 03:24
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Inzhuna wrote...
This is weird because when after landsmeet Alistair tells the character they can't be together anymore the only reason he states is not that they are of different races or that she is not noble but that they are both Grey Wardens and double taint, so to speak, would prevent them from conceiving a child, and Ferelden needs an heir. What's so different about a human Grey Warden? Does nobility cancel out the taint? I'm dissapointed about this inconsistency! If he said, there's no way Ferelden would welcome an elven queen or there can't be any half-breeds that's fine cause it makes sense! But the way they've done it just doesn't
ps there wasnt any option to propose being his lover 'on the side'. he was just breaking the relationship up completely. Ah!
Did you harden him after visiting his sister? If so, there should be an option to say "you're king now, you can do whatever you want" when he's trying to break up with you. That's when he'll take you as what's lovingly referred to as a "side piece."
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Posté 01 décembre 2009 - 03:59
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riggghhht, there was an option like that i think... but i chose to tell him he was an ass ;P ok, i'll keep that in mind for my other playthrough! thanks for your replies.
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Posté 16 juin 2010 - 02:57
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So since I'm a human noble, I should be able to become queen eventually? Even if I slept with Zevran first?
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Posté 16 juin 2010 - 03:04
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okay major threadomancy but here goes
You can become queen as a HN you don't have to romance Alistair just make sure you DON"T have alistair duel Loghain at the landsmeet. If you are in a political Marriage with Alistair you can keep a romanced Zevran on the side.
You have to propose the marriage when you decide who rules (he won't propose to you). Even if you are romancing Alistair he won't propose so you hae to say at the Landsmeet. The game won;t know what you want it to do unless you take the initiative there.
You can become queen as a HN you don't have to romance Alistair just make sure you DON"T have alistair duel Loghain at the landsmeet. If you are in a political Marriage with Alistair you can keep a romanced Zevran on the side.
You have to propose the marriage when you decide who rules (he won't propose to you). Even if you are romancing Alistair he won't propose so you hae to say at the Landsmeet. The game won;t know what you want it to do unless you take the initiative there.
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Posté 16 juin 2010 - 03:35
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Taleroth wrote...
Inzhuna wrote...
This is weird because when after landsmeet Alistair tells the character they can't be together anymore the only reason he states is not that they are of different races or that she is not noble but that they are both Grey Wardens and double taint, so to speak, would prevent them from conceiving a child, and Ferelden needs an heir. What's so different about a human Grey Warden? Does nobility cancel out the taint? I'm dissapointed about this inconsistency! If he said, there's no way Ferelden would welcome an elven queen or there can't be any half-breeds that's fine cause it makes sense! But the way they've done it just doesn't
He's a coward and a liar. Only thing I can think of.
Or, hey, maybe because he's not sure whether the Landsmeet agreed to give the throne to him or to both of you. After all, the Couslands are the second ranked noble family in all of Ferelden and your PC was raised to rule, unlike poor Alistair off in the stables, being told again and again how absolutely unfit he was to lead anyone, anywhere.
They're both practical choices, either that the Landsmeet won't accept an Elf/Dwarf/Mage Queen, or that the addition of a Cousland Queen will make Alistair a more palatable choice for them. Which is not to say that he doesn't love the PC regardless of all that, just that he's putting duty first.
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what dose that have to do with anything ?
other origins can marry alistair if u get a mod but its not recomended might bug the game up
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 01:09
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You have to be a Human Noble to take the throne as either King or Queen.
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You can onlyy have Alistair if your Female, but have to banish or kill him if your male.
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You can onlyy have Alistair if your Female, but have to banish or kill him if your male.
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Posté 17 juin 2010 - 02:33
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Last Darkness wrote...
You have to be a Human Noble to take the throne as either King or Queen.
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You can onlyy have Alistair if your Female, but have to banish or kill him if your male.
Not hardening him also does the trick for a HNM.
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Posté 10 avril 2012 - 10:25
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how do i harden him exactly. i do really dont care if my female mage is his side piece i just picture here throwing that in a nora's face and getting my alistair all to myself.
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 02:10
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Inzhuna wrote...
This is weird because when after landsmeet Alistair tells the character they can't be together anymore the only reason he states is not that they are of different races or that she is not noble but that they are both Grey Wardens and double taint, so to speak, would prevent them from conceiving a child, and Ferelden needs an heir. What's so different about a human Grey Warden? Does nobility cancel out the taint? I'm dissapointed about this inconsistency! If he said, there's no way Ferelden would welcome an elven queen or there can't be any half-breeds that's fine cause it makes sense! But the way they've done it just doesn't
ps there wasnt any option to propose being his lover 'on the side'. he was just breaking the relationship up completely. Ah!
A Fereldan monarch can only retain the throne as long as they have the support of most of the Fereldan nobility. If the Bannorn decide that they don't approve of the monarch, they'll vote you out with a Landsmeet or force you out with a civil war like they did to Loghain. Alistair has a very weak claim to the throne as he is illegitimate and unexperienced.
The only thing keeping Alistair on the throne is his royal blood--the royal blood that they hope he'll pass on to future heirs. Since there has been a Theirin monarch on the throne since King Calenhad, they want to keep the Theirin dynasty going as long as possible, and they'll suffer an inexperienced bastard if they think it'll get them one.
Since royal blood is important to a hereditary monarchy, they would want to keep it "pure" with only the blood of human nobility. Fereldan is a country for non-magic human nobles, by non-magic human nobles. If they started letting elves, dwarves or mages marry or breed into their elite bloodlines, then it would threaten their claims to power, so they would never allow it.
-Elves are second-class citizens at best. They cannot join the Chantry, military or nobility, so royalty is out.
-Mages are legally forbidden to hold titles. "Magic exists to serve man, and never to rule over him."
-Dwarves aren't human. No half-breed children. (I don't think they would appear fully human either.)
Heir or no heir, Alistair cannot legally marry a non-human noble because the Landsmeet would vote him out faster than he could say "I do." Alistair has to marry a human noble. Female Cousland is a human noble. All others are SOL.
However, I think it's understood that kings can take mistresses and if he and his queen could not conceive a legitimate child, the nobles may allow his illegitimate offspring to inherit as a last resort. It may just be my warped interpretation, but when a Female Cousland convinces the Bannorn that an heir is not an issue, she's indirectly saying (even if she has no intention of following through with) that producing a royal heir is difficult but not impossible so please give them a chance, they'll find a "brood mare" mistress if the queen is unable to do it, they'll wait for another more suitable heir to apear in another family between now and when they die so please wait it out, etc.
I think the Bannorn is also more accepting of Alistair if he is married to an experienced noblewoman like Cousland. Then they're not just tolerating a barely qualified bastard purely for his stud capabilities, but a highly qualified and well-suited match between a prized Theirin and an experienced/beloved queen. It's much easier to forgive infertility if he has more to offer as a monarch (an experienced, popular, politically-savvy wife) than just heir-producing.
That's how I see it.
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