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[Nuclear Pete]

woah. that is... bleak.

It would have been great as an alternate ending.

But everyone stuck in Sol, Shep dead, your crew and LI marooned... just bleak.

Modifié par Nuclear Pete, 23 mars 2012 - 04:29 .

[LegatoSkyheart]

seriously my Rage is steadily increasing every time I look and analyze this.
I mean The Freakin' Dark Age?

They're pretty much saying that you screwed up the Galaxy no matter what you do.
This is terrible!

[TonViper]

VoraciousBeaver wrote...

Well... at least the reaper problem was solved.

I solved your roach problem: I burned down the kitchen.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Yep. All aboard the speculation train!

-Polite

[Jaron Oberyn]

TonViper wrote...

VoraciousBeaver wrote...

Well... at least the reaper problem was solved.

I solved your roach problem: I burned down the kitchen.

Lol 

-Polite

[iTofu]

pattywagon wrote...

...they mean prequels, or spin-offs before the events in Mass Effect 3 take place

I think that is exactly what they intend.

pattywagon wrote...

...the destruction of the mass relays and the new dark ages of the galaxy eventually leads into the age of Dragon Age. Maybe the Reaper's husks eventually morphed into the Blight.

I remember joking with a friend that they've been making the Mass Effect sequels all along, except the sequels are called Dragon Age. lol

Modifié par iTofu, 23 mars 2012 - 04:29 .

[SNascimento]

Wow, just read the article with the (supposed) ME3 writer.
.
And if it's really true all that I read, than I agree. Bioware should improve the endings.

[Nuclear Pete]

TonViper wrote...

VoraciousBeaver wrote...

Well... at least the reaper problem was solved.

I solved your roach problem: I burned down the kitchen.

lol

[Militarized]

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

Militarized wrote...

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

I don't see a problem with a dark age.

They don't need to destroy the Relays to have a dark age, though. The Council is GONE, the galactic government is GONE, the economy will be a wreck wherever there isn't a volus, so ya, dark age. Destroying the relays and dumping everyone in Sol, it is the kind of tragedy that doesn't leave a satisfying ending. If Earth blew up to stop the Reapers and humans are left without a homeworld, that is the kind of tragedy that can still have a satisfying end.

Dark age can still work...

Really? You're talking about a period of history where they put animals on trial to decide whether the animal killed it's owner because it had murderous intent or whether the owner had tried to molest/rape it so the beast was acting in self defense. And yes they did attempt to prove this by fondeling the animal... they also had trials for animals attempting to rape people, and condemned the animal to death because it tried to cop a feel with someone. 

That's one of the more comical(and serious) ones, there are a litany of ass backwards things going on at that time period that I don't even want to imagine going through.

This is the time period the writers wanted Mass Effect to go back to. 

That's great, THAT'S AMAZING. 

Okay... that's THE Dark Age (for Europe, anyway). There is a difference between A dark age and THE Dark Age. Just because it is a dark age, doesn't mean everyone goes to stupidville, only the usual people go there whether it is a dark age or not.

Besides the Dark Age in Europe was very interesting, go watch the History Channel on it, a lot of positive things happened during that time as well.

The History Channel... no offence, is garbage most of the time. I've watched a lot of their stuff, their intent is to make it entertaining and informative but moreso they gloss over actual facts to make it more entertaining. The Nostra Domus stuff was my last straw. 

I'm aware good things happened during this time, I am simply saying the the impression they leave by using that term is the general one that everyone understands.. Europes Dark Age. 

[Xion66]

MisterP146 wrote...

An article about how the Mass Effect writing team did not have much input with the ending. It's an interesting read.

http://geek.pikimal....t-name-release/

I really enjoyed this link, the article gives some truth to the Writer's leak, who was hushed as fake by Chris, if true I'd be really glad that someone from the writing team disliked the endings.

[Daerog]

Dreogan wrote...


To be fair, I don't think they're literally meaning "dark age" as in ca 1000 AD. They mean "relays are destroyed, no more galaxy-hopping." It makes perfect sense, especially when you consider the many hints throughout the series that by using the Reaper tech, we are subservient to their plans.

Ya, but if they are all dead, then it doesn't really matter, does it? The plans the Reapers had with their tech only goes so far, who knows what the future will hold after 50k years of development?

And if the Reapers were not destroyed then the reapers are still a threat with or without relays, so w/e.

[tamperous]

Let's speculate:

If we all started a new Chip-In and bought one way tickets for the creative team of Bioware to Somalia or Afghanistan, do you think they would have a new appreciation of why we don't want to play their stupid dark age ending?

[LegatoSkyheart]

Almostfaceman wrote...

MisterP146 wrote...

An article about how the Mass Effect writing team did not have much input with the ending. It's an interesting read.

http://geek.pikimal....t-name-release/

Huh, it looks like Weekes probably did write that stuff. Interesting.

But you remember playing the game right? It was amazing right? That Ending though....holy crap, I can't fathom their thought process to bring up that freakin' point about a Galatical Dark Age.

[dointime85]

iTofu wrote...

pattywagon wrote...

...they mean prequels, or spin-offs before the events in Mass Effect 3 take place

I think that is exactly what they intend.

pattywagon wrote...

...the destruction of the mass relays and the new dark ages of the galaxy eventually leads into the age of Dragon Age. Maybe the Reaper's husks eventually morphed into the Blight.

I remember joking with a friend that they've been making the Mass Effect sequels all along, except the sequels are called Dragon Age. lol

rofl.

But in another thread today, we had firmly established that Spacebrat was Morrigan's child? I sense timeline inconsistencies in the Dragon Effect universe.

[EsterCloat]

TonViper wrote...

VoraciousBeaver wrote...

Well... at least the reaper problem was solved.

I solved your roach problem: I burned down the kitchen.

Not bleak enough. You should burn down the rest of the house, his money, and get him fired from his job.

Oh, and break one of his legs.

[Kersca]

Love that they cut some crucial story exposition. Prothean VI tells you the crucible will cause a dark age? Ability to question the catalyst? Cut them for speculation purposes. 2 bucks says the cut stuff comes right back in when they do the "closure and clarity" DLC.

[CheeseEnchilada]

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

"Catalyst will create a galactic Dark Age"

I thought I couldn't be more dissatisfied with the ending...I was wrong.

Seriously. Why? You know, if ME1 and 2 hadn't ended on such uplifting notes and had this kind of bleak outlook, I wouldn't be so upset. But throwing in a Dark Age no matter what you do at the end of a serious that has had a 'defeat the odds!' theme through it and constant emphasis on choice...so frustrating. I respect their vision, but I wish this little tidbit was advertised, or I never would have bought the games in the first place.

I am having flashbacks of the 6th. Reliving the endings once more. I should go.

[Militarized]

tamperous wrote...

Let's speculate:

If we all started a new Chip-In and bought one way tickets for the creative team of Bioware to Somalia or Afghanistan, do you think they would have a new appreciation of why we don't want to play their stupid dark age ending?

Afghanistan would actually be the more accurate of the two, if you want my historical opinion.  

[Singu]

Waaaait a minute. The Prothean VI, Vengeance, never said anything about a 'galactic dark age' in the dialogue at TiM's base. We're making a lot of noise about something that Bioware decided not to put into the game.

I would say it's still open, and that the in-production notes are not conclusive.

Edit: just for clarity I'll quote the flowchart linked in OP.

"Protean VI - Crucible will cause "galactic dark age"."

Modifié par Singu, 23 mars 2012 - 04:34 .

[The_Crazy_Hand]

Brahlis wrote...

I'm sorry, but looking at those notes just makes me imagine things I'd like to do that I'd get banned for saying.

Mac 
walters is our worst enemy within the company it seems.  But don't let him get to you.  If it makes you feel better, he's likely to get in trouble for constantly pissing off fans.

[Reptilian Rob]

INSPIRING AND UPLIFTING!

LOTS OF SPECULATION!

I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT I'M DOING!

[TheJiveDJ]

God looking at Mac Walters notes about the ending is sickening. LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE!! Oh what a genius you are Mac.

[Lexagg]

I'd love it if the ending felt like first Matrix. Unfortunately it felt like third matrix.

[Militarized]

Singu wrote...

Waaaait a minute. The Prothean VI, Vengeance, never said anything about a 'galactic dark age' in the dialogue at TiM's base. We're making a lot of noise about something that Bioware decided not to put into the game.

I would say it's still open, and that the in-production notes are not conclusive.

I believe the evidence is already mounted against them. The Star Gazer is 10k years in the future... they don't have space flight, he obviously talks about it as if it's some mythological legend they have of "The Shepard" and his grandsons idea of traveling the stars is far fetched. 

The scribble notes fit pretty perfectly with the ending so... ya. 

[EsterCloat]

Singu wrote...

Waaaait a minute. The Prothean VI, Vengeance, never said anything about a 'galactic dark age' in the dialogue at TiM's base. We're making a lot of noise about something that Bioware decided not to put into the game.

I would say it's still open, and that the in-production notes are not conclusive.

I would assume that they didn't put in that dialogue so we wouldn't realize we'd be dooming the galaxy to death and famine. Because that's not uplifting and inspiring.

Modifié par EsterCloat, 23 mars 2012 - 04:35 .