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[jkflipflopDAO]

I am a genius. (I know that makes some people rage with jealously, but whatever.)
I have an IQ of over 140.
I am a MENSA member.
I am in the top 2% of all humanity as far as intelligence is concerned.

I can safely say the ending makes no sense what so ever. If you take it at face value, it's a trainwreck, if you subscribe to IT, it's an elegant trainwreck. It completely invalidates the story of the first game while at the same time not answering any of the questions that fans have wanted to know since we figured out Sovereign isn't just Saren's ride.

[TLK Spires]

they obviously have stock in bioware/ea. they speak it up, the "people" who watch this trash eat it up, profit.

[Ultra Prism]

Umm Yess So called Artistic ending ... its all bull

[Chuvvy]

Must have been cast iron.

[MissMaster_2]

no.

[TLK Spires]

jkflipflopDAO wrote...

I can safely say the ending makes no sense what so ever. If you take it at face value, it's a trainwreck, if you subscribe to IT, it's an elegant trainwreck.

i think of it more like "if you take it for what it is, it's either a red, green or blue pile of putrid, toxic ****; if you subscribe to it,  it's either a red, green or blue pile of putrid, toxic ****, but you don't actually SMELL anything"

[Bachi1230]

pottypenguin wrote...

I don’t want to make any accusations here but I’ve noticed a trend in the majority of the news stories pertaining to Mass Effect 3 and it‘s ending. Even ones that don’t state an opinion but misrepresent the I don’t like the mass effect 3 ending crowd. They often seem to mirror each other in talking points to an uncanny level. Of course there’s a reason they’re called the lame stream media and obviously do very little in the way of research. Why would they need to when all the information needed can be supplied in a press kit.

Just saying

They're just showing their true colors under the pressure from EA/Bioware.  I don't kid myself when I say most of the main gaming sites are in the pockets of the big companies.  I'm all for people having different opinions on an issue.  I just go crazy when you present all these points and their rebuttle is "No <insert insult> <insert coockie cutter/inflamatory response with no real back up for points made>.  This video was a prime example of this.

He said for SOME fans this ending was disliked but for the same people obviously it was just too deep and artistic for them to understand.  Then proceeds to use the cop out of but I don't want to spoil anything lets just say the ending is perfect.  He doesn't address any comments or points and just dismisses them as "Well I didn't see any problems, so their aren't any problems."

[Skirata129]

jkflipflopDAO wrote...

I am a genius. (I know that makes some people rage with jealously, but whatever.)
I have an IQ of over 140.
I am a MENSA member.
I am in the top 2% of all humanity as far as intelligence is concerned.

I've always been curious how those figures are calculated considering the differing types of intelligence. The only scores I have to measure myself against, are that I was reading at a college level from 4th grade onwards, score in the 99th percentile on writing and critical reading standardized tests and made a 2100 on the SAT with no prep classes.

Math scores are only 85th percentile though. <_<

[lm_Commander_Shepard]

MSNBC is even worse than Fox. I know I previously stated they're all horrible. But scew MSNBC right in the ear canal. Who cares what those crazies think?

[Bachi1230]

Spanking Machine wrote...

this is how I felt the writers are bioware must have been with the ending

[Rohirrim]

leondes1 wrote...

Skirata129 wrote...

Here's what I posted on his facebook.
When you get down to the reality of the matter, if Bioware wants to stay in business they must be treated as a company and Mass Effect as a product. If 90% of your consumers dislike your product (http://social.biowar...67/polls/29305/), it is STRONGLY advisable that you do whatever possible to appease them. Anything else is financial suicide.

Well done 

Unfortunately, the poll reflects only about 50,000 of 2,400,000 customers that purchases Mass Effect - or 0.02 %. The majority might simply be casual gamers, in for the multiplayer or a quick action adventure.

[jameshawking]

Skirata129 wrote...

jkflipflopDAO wrote...

I am a genius. (I know that makes some people rage with jealously, but whatever.)
I have an IQ of over 140.
I am a MENSA member.
I am in the top 2% of all humanity as far as intelligence is concerned.

I've always been curious how those figures are calculated considering the differing types of intelligence. The only scores I have to measure myself against, are that I was reading at a college level from 4th grade onwards, score in the 99th percentile on writing and critical reading standardized tests and made a 2100 on the SAT with no prep classes.

Math scores are only 85th percentile though. <_<

a large part of being "genius" is having insight, really.

Common sense isn't so common.

Most people don't find critical thinknig critical.


Granted there is a good portion of just having a "better rain", but speak to any member of MENSA or a genius and they'll say something very similar.

They work hard (probably), but a lot of their brains (colloquial term) just comes naturally to them.  It's more like unwrapping a book in your brain as opposed to reading the words on the page of a textbook.

"Of course it works like that" instead of "Really?  it works like that?"

[jkflipflopDAO]

Skirata129 wrote...

jkflipflopDAO wrote...

I am a genius. (I know that makes some people rage with jealously, but whatever.)
I have an IQ of over 140.
I am a MENSA member.
I am in the top 2% of all humanity as far as intelligence is concerned.

I've always been curious how those figures are calculated considering the differing types of intelligence. The only scores I have to measure myself against, are that I was reading at a college level from 4th grade onwards, score in the 99th percentile on writing and critical reading standardized tests and made a 2100 on the SAT with no prep classes.

Math scores are only 85th percentile though. <_<

 

There's no singular test one can take. There's testing and mental workouts you can do in the quarterly mailers and also on the website. When I joined, there were 5 tests that ran the gamut from high level derivatives down to the base color's of Uganda's flag. It's just all over the place.

Obviously those with photographic or idedic memories have a severe edge.

Modifié par jkflipflopDAO, 23 mars 2012 - 06:28 .

[mumwaldee369]

Eidetic, mensa man.

[McScroggz24]

jkflipflopDAO wrote...

I am a genius. (I know that makes some people rage with jealously, but whatever.)
I have an IQ of over 140.
I am a MENSA member.
I am in the top 2% of all humanity as far as intelligence is concerned.

I can safely say the ending makes no sense what so ever. If you take it at face value, it's a trainwreck, if you subscribe to IT, it's an elegant trainwreck. It completely invalidates the story of the first game while at the same time not answering any of the questions that fans have wanted to know since we figured out Sovereign isn't just Saren's ride.

I'm not trying to imply anything, but being a genius simply means you have a better natural capacity to learn. I could have an IQ of 200 yet waste it.

[WeAreLegionWTF]

how do these people actually get paid to do what they do?

[Mixon]

lol, I never trust to MSNBC before, now I know why.

[Ryoten]

And people think Fox news is insane.  MSNBC is the Liberal version of fox.  Who's the nut cases now!?! fellas!

[Elyiia]

Obviously the ending didn't go "over" our heads. It went under. We're just too intelligent to miss the glaring plot holes.

[blurryhunter]

I respect that he came to the conclusion that it resolved everything for him. I surely didn't. I can't see how I could, because the moment I started to think about what I'd just saw, more questions started flagging than should every be included in the conclusion to anything. Movie, book, or game.

In some ways, I can see where he could be coming from though. This requires a stretch, something I'm only doing for the sake of seeing all sides of this, and not one I share.

If you remove everything you know about the effects of destroying a mass relay, remove the double standard of the synthetics killing organics so synthetics won't kill organics, not putting any further thought into Joker's scene other then 'there he is', and taking anything BioWare said about the ending to mean the events throughout the whole of Mass Effect 3, rather than just the literal end, I could see someone making heads or tails of that.

They wouldn't see the plot holes derived from the Star Child comments, the mass relay explosions, or what we all agree as a departure from the loyalty of Joker, and they would feel that their choices provided closure while achieving an ending to the game that made sense.

That last part probably needs a bit of clarification. With this train of thought, I'm going under the impression that when BioWare mentioned having choice at the end and definitive closure they mentioned all the events in Mass Effect 3 that tied into events pulled through from the first two games. That those moments, such as curing the genophage and the unification of the Quarians and Geth (in my experiences of course), were the conclusions they talked about. No need, again, with this train of thought, for a epilogue, because we saw the conclusions prior to ever reaching the finale.

Now that train all falls to pieces, for me, because I can't ignore the mass relay information handed to me during Arrival in ME2 and confirmed by Codex in ME3, I can't ignore the circular logic from the Catalyst/Star Child, I can't ignore Joker's sudden run-for-the-hills (especially when you consider the relays going up), and I've seen more than enough of BioWare's statements prior to the release of the game that I can say that even if they were referring to the last game as the conclusion to the series, and not the end of the last game, there is no way wording it like that would give anyone that impression at all. Especially when one of those particularly damning quotes were in direct response to a question asking about how the ending of Mass Effect 3 would play out.

I still respect what he has to say, and if what I mentioned above were never in the game, or were never a problem, I could probably be content just leaving it as a 'Well, that was weird' ending. However, I can't, so here I stand.

Modifié par blurryhunter, 23 mars 2012 - 06:37 .

[jameshawking]

Ryoten wrote...

And people think Fox news is insane.  MSNBC is the Liberal version of fox.  Who's the nut cases now!?! fellas!

www.youtube.com/watch

[lordofthejewsjr]

im prepared for what may happen to me. this guy is the only guy i trust for video game reviews. hes recommended nothing but good games in his little video reviews, aside from brink he gave it a 9/10 i think (i gave it an 8/10 just because the free running made me not feel fat, i enjoyed it, i did honestly, and the achievements were super easy, im an achievement ****), and even so hes given the games that deserve awards their due. he gave mass effect 2 a 10/10 and their goty award.

while all of you bash the guy, he is just stating his opinion. i know you guys are giving your opinions as well but damn, chill out. it seems to me like you guys are just angry and lashing out at anyone who actually enjoyed the game.

my friend liked the ending and as much as i disagreed with him he stuck with " i liked it, now bring on my blue baby in dlc"..... im still friends with him because hes my street fighter x tekken partner.

i also like his reviews because when everyone was praising the call of duty series he bashed it and awarded bad company 2 and battlefield 3 best shooters of their respective years.


id write this alot better but Bob calls for me in street fighter x tekken. Bob is a Tekken character.

[Exicuren]

What i found interesting is that he was saying in the whole video "ending" instead of endings, can i supose that he saw all three flavors and tried to forget them when he did this video, but he couldn't? i'm not defending him, i'm just saying that he's such a douche because in a little momment he said entitled fans and then they are right, as if i would fell from that.

[mumwaldee369]

MSNBC has probably cost their viewers more money in the stock market than anything else. They will smile as they lie through their teeth about crap stocks and IPOs.

[TeffexPope]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

I've been saying it: you're gonna get this crap from ALL of the major news networks, at least some of the time. It ain't just FOX.

If for nothing else, I would withhold a 10/10 for ME3 just because the quest tracker is aweful. I don't expect to be babysat, but at least give me some way to look up the star system some of these planets are in for sidequests. An ingame "An Idiots Guide to the Milky Way" next to the Galaxy Map would be nice, versus flying around and eye-balling it.

All media sucks. You've got news sources with obvious biases (Fox is pretty obviously conservatively bised), who try to essentially name call each other (hence the constant bashing of Fox by other networks and networks with obvoius liberal biases, liek Comedy Central). ESPN is as I like to call them the 'bane of my existence' (who themselves, incredibly, have a political bias and yet they're my go to source for sports. Sucks.) Gaming media as a whole is terrible for reasons that have been well covered on these boards. Journalism is dead. The only thing we can look forward to from media is the little nuggets that aren't ****ty, i.e. the Kotaku writers who don't frame the ending haters as immature, raging nerds, and Forbes' articles.