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[IST]

classic reaction from someone who may say they played ME1 and ME2, but in reality, kicked off their 'adventure' in the final stanza.

Watched for comedic value, it isn't a bad viewing lol..

[McScroggz24]

lordofthejewsjr wrote...

im prepared for what may happen to me. this guy is the only guy i trust for video game reviews. hes recommended nothing but good games in his little video reviews, aside from brink he gave it a 9/10 i think (i gave it an 8/10 just because the free running made me not feel fat, i enjoyed it, i did honestly, and the achievements were super easy, im an achievement ****), and even so hes given the games that deserve awards their due. he gave mass effect 2 a 10/10 and their goty award.

while all of you bash the guy, he is just stating his opinion. i know you guys are giving your opinions as well but damn, chill out. it seems to me like you guys are just angry and lashing out at anyone who actually enjoyed the game.

my friend liked the ending and as much as i disagreed with him he stuck with " i liked it, now bring on my blue baby in dlc"..... im still friends with him because hes my street fighter x tekken partner.

i also like his reviews because when everyone was praising the call of duty series he bashed it and awarded bad company 2 and battlefield 3 best shooters of their respective years.


id write this alot better but Bob calls for me in street fighter x tekken. Bob is a Tekken character.

That's fine. The problem, for me at least, is some of his statements are inflametory or self-contradicting and considering how many media outlets are making their stances public (to me often for views) it seems to me it was geared more towards promoting himself than an honest review.

[Jaron Oberyn]

mumwaldee369 wrote...

MSNBC has probably cost their viewers more money in the stock market than anything else. They will smile as they lie through their teeth about crap stocks and IPOs.

Msnbc has viewers? I thought my grandparents were the only ones.  Their numbers are extemely low so I doubt many people are affected by their horrible "reporting". Just look at their ratings in comparison to FOX. 

-Polite

[Bachi1230]

TeffexPope wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

I've been saying it: you're gonna get this crap from ALL of the major news networks, at least some of the time. It ain't just FOX.

If for nothing else, I would withhold a 10/10 for ME3 just because the quest tracker is aweful. I don't expect to be babysat, but at least give me some way to look up the star system some of these planets are in for sidequests. An ingame "An Idiots Guide to the Milky Way" next to the Galaxy Map would be nice, versus flying around and eye-balling it.

All media sucks. You've got news sources with obvious biases (Fox is pretty obviously conservatively bised), who try to essentially name call each other (hence the constant bashing of Fox by other networks and networks with obvoius liberal biases, liek Comedy Central). ESPN is as I like to call them the 'bane of my existence' (who themselves, incredibly, have a political bias and yet they're my go to source for sports. Sucks.) Gaming media as a whole is terrible for reasons that have been well covered on these boards. Journalism is dead. The only thing we can look forward to from media is the little nuggets that aren't ****ty, i.e. the Kotaku writers who don't frame the ending haters as immature, raging nerds, and Forbes' articles.
 

Comedy Central isn't passing itself as a news source...ESPN has a bias but it isn't in politics.  Also plenty of unbiased news organizations around, Kotaku deffinitaly isn't one of them.  I would rate Kotaku below Fox/MSNBC on gaming news, they have no crediability.  Journalism isn't dead.  It's just not the common practice.

[Chuvvy]

Rohirrim wrote...

Unfortunately, the poll reflects only about 50,000 of 2,400,000 customers that purchases Mass Effect - or 0.02 %. The majority might simply be casual gamers, in for the multiplayer or a quick action adventure.

Except you have litterally no evidense to back that up. Most of the people I've talked to, all of them, didn't like the ending, but couldn't be bothered to weigh in.

[Skirata129]

Slidell505 wrote...

Rohirrim wrote...

Unfortunately, the poll reflects only about 50,000 of 2,400,000 customers that purchases Mass Effect - or 0.02 %. The majority might simply be casual gamers, in for the multiplayer or a quick action adventure.

Except you have litterally no evidense to back that up. Most of the people I've talked to, all of them, didn't like the ending, but couldn't be bothered to weigh in.

yeah, I've talked to people in my classes at college, and I haven't encountered one person that enjoyed it yet after talking to about 30 that have played. I'm just the only one who's bothered to protest it online.

[MPSai]

Ah, we've moved from "artistic vision" to "you just found the ending confusing cause you're dumb".

[McScroggz24]

I know it's off topic, but it bothers me a little that people say there's only 50 or 60k out of 2.5 million that disliked the ending. They insinuate that most who disliked the ending registered to this site and voted on that poll and thus most who didn't vote either enjoyed the ending or don't care about it. Awhaaat?

[Skirata129]

MPSai wrote...

Ah, we've moved from "artistic vision" to "you just found the ending confusing cause you're dumb".

when people say stuff like that, it usually means they didn't understand it, but due to an inferiority complex feel the need to assert their intellect by pretending they did and everyone else didn't.

[lordofthejewsjr]

McScroggz24 wrote...

lordofthejewsjr wrote...

im prepared for what may happen to me. this guy is the only guy i trust for video game reviews. hes recommended nothing but good games in his little video reviews, aside from brink he gave it a 9/10 i think (i gave it an 8/10 just because the free running made me not feel fat, i enjoyed it, i did honestly, and the achievements were super easy, im an achievement ****), and even so hes given the games that deserve awards their due. he gave mass effect 2 a 10/10 and their goty award.

while all of you bash the guy, he is just stating his opinion. i know you guys are giving your opinions as well but damn, chill out. it seems to me like you guys are just angry and lashing out at anyone who actually enjoyed the game.

my friend liked the ending and as much as i disagreed with him he stuck with " i liked it, now bring on my blue baby in dlc"..... im still friends with him because hes my street fighter x tekken partner.

i also like his reviews because when everyone was praising the call of duty series he bashed it and awarded bad company 2 and battlefield 3 best shooters of their respective years.


id write this alot better but Bob calls for me in street fighter x tekken. Bob is a Tekken character.

That's fine. The problem, for me at least, is some of his statements are inflametory or self-contradicting and considering how many media outlets are making their stances public (to me often for views) it seems to me it was geared more towards promoting himself than an honest review.

after watching the video again i see your point. when i saw this video, mass effect 3 was 1 day away from release so i was super hyped. only now do i realize

[lordofthejewsjr]

damn double post<_<

Modifié par lordofthejewsjr, 23 mars 2012 - 06:57 .

[krogstor]

The guy who did the review is to be taken no more seriously than Colin Moriarty. Namely for the fact that he says that ME3 has a good ending, and then goes on in another video to say that the new resident evil is pretty much like left 4 dead. Payrolled for sure.

[McScroggz24]

lordofthejewsjr wrote...

McScroggz24 wrote...

lordofthejewsjr wrote...

im prepared for what may happen to me. this guy is the only guy i trust for video game reviews. hes recommended nothing but good games in his little video reviews, aside from brink he gave it a 9/10 i think (i gave it an 8/10 just because the free running made me not feel fat, i enjoyed it, i did honestly, and the achievements were super easy, im an achievement ****), and even so hes given the games that deserve awards their due. he gave mass effect 2 a 10/10 and their goty award.

while all of you bash the guy, he is just stating his opinion. i know you guys are giving your opinions as well but damn, chill out. it seems to me like you guys are just angry and lashing out at anyone who actually enjoyed the game.

my friend liked the ending and as much as i disagreed with him he stuck with " i liked it, now bring on my blue baby in dlc"..... im still friends with him because hes my street fighter x tekken partner.

i also like his reviews because when everyone was praising the call of duty series he bashed it and awarded bad company 2 and battlefield 3 best shooters of their respective years.


id write this alot better but Bob calls for me in street fighter x tekken. Bob is a Tekken character.

That's fine. The problem, for me at least, is some of his statements are inflametory or self-contradicting and considering how many media outlets are making their stances public (to me often for views) it seems to me it was geared more towards promoting himself than an honest review.

after watching the video again i see your point. when i saw this video, mass effect 3 was 1 day away from release so i was super hyped. only now do i realize

I'm sorry I feel your pain, I'm a fan of IGN's playstation team, including Colin Moriaty. I hate that somebody who I enjoy listening to and respect his opinion on a lot of things not only sometimes can be abbraisive but then has taken a stance against something I feel stronly about. What is most frustrating to me isn't even his stance, it's his flawed and narrow arguments, Oh well. I hope that this is a blip on the radar for Todd Kenreck and he continues to inform you.

[spacefiddle]

Siggs84 wrote...
as far as plot holes? I didn't see any

Stupid?  I don't know the meaning of the word!

[VoodooDrackus]

Look, we get it, you think the ending sucks and you feel there are plotholes, you feel Bioware gave you an inferior product, etc.

But the way most of you are behaving is much more confrontational/insulting/violent than a reviewer saying that the ending may have gone over some peoples heads.

Most of you seem to believe that anyone who doesn't think there are plotholes in the story, like me, is paid off or a total fan boy. Anyone who loves the ending and feels completely satisfied with it, like me, just doesn't see how it sucked or is obviously stupid or paid off.

What is sad is that no matter how much I try to explain my point of view, express how I feel about the ending it will just be discounted like I see others opinions being discounted throughout the threads. That sucks.

How can you be taken seriously if you won't even try to understand the opposite point of view or act a little more civil. I understand why the ending can be confusing and/or unintelligible. None of it is explained in clear terms. For me it is all about context, it is about knowing that you have stumbled those last steps from that long journey over the course of 3 games to change the galaxy forever. Your story is over, you are not watching someone elses story being played out to you, it is your story. You wouldn't really know what happens next. We are lucky we get anything at all after our sacrifice.

You know what? It doesn't matter. I am just giving my point of view, my opinion, my experience of the ending of the game. It is what I got out of it. It is my journey and I am not going to let anyone else taint that. I know it may not be yours, I know yours may have sucked and wasn't what you wanted and that is ok. But discounting anything anyone says by being hostile towards them doesn't help anyone. And you guys are doing it over and over again when the people you are being hostile to, that have a difference of opinion from you, are not being hostile to you at all.

[lordofthejewsjr]

McScroggz24 wrote...

lordofthejewsjr wrote...

McScroggz24 wrote...

lordofthejewsjr wrote...

im prepared for what may happen to me. this guy is the only guy i trust for video game reviews. hes recommended nothing but good games in his little video reviews, aside from brink he gave it a 9/10 i think (i gave it an 8/10 just because the free running made me not feel fat, i enjoyed it, i did honestly, and the achievements were super easy, im an achievement ****), and even so hes given the games that deserve awards their due. he gave mass effect 2 a 10/10 and their goty award.

while all of you bash the guy, he is just stating his opinion. i know you guys are giving your opinions as well but damn, chill out. it seems to me like you guys are just angry and lashing out at anyone who actually enjoyed the game.

my friend liked the ending and as much as i disagreed with him he stuck with " i liked it, now bring on my blue baby in dlc"..... im still friends with him because hes my street fighter x tekken partner.

i also like his reviews because when everyone was praising the call of duty series he bashed it and awarded bad company 2 and battlefield 3 best shooters of their respective years.


id write this alot better but Bob calls for me in street fighter x tekken. Bob is a Tekken character.

That's fine. The problem, for me at least, is some of his statements are inflametory or self-contradicting and considering how many media outlets are making their stances public (to me often for views) it seems to me it was geared more towards promoting himself than an honest review.

after watching the video again i see your point. when i saw this video, mass effect 3 was 1 day away from release so i was super hyped. only now do i realize

I'm sorry I feel your pain, I'm a fan of IGN's playstation team, including Colin Moriaty. I hate that somebody who I enjoy listening to and respect his opinion on a lot of things not only sometimes can be abbraisive but then has taken a stance against something I feel stronly about. What is most frustrating to me isn't even his stance, it's his flawed and narrow arguments, Oh well. I hope that this is a blip on the radar for Todd Kenreck and he continues to inform you.

his blip on the radar was brink, this is more of a "my poop hit the toilet water with great impact, now theres toilet water in my butt hole" blip. but as i always do, i forgive and forget and move on to his next review that i await, the witcher 2 for xbox 360.

[Ariq007]

Well at first I hated the ending then this guy told me that im not smart so now i love it

[KaeserZen]

deadshame wrote...

So if we don't like the ending, we're just stupid and it went over our heads? I guess i'm not hipster or deep enough for this ending. -shrugs-

Being unsatisfied with ME3's ending is too mainstream y'know

[McScroggz24]

lordofthejewsjr wrote...

McScroggz24 wrote...

lordofthejewsjr wrote...

McScroggz24 wrote...

lordofthejewsjr wrote...

im prepared for what may happen to me. this guy is the only guy i trust for video game reviews. hes recommended nothing but good games in his little video reviews, aside from brink he gave it a 9/10 i think (i gave it an 8/10 just because the free running made me not feel fat, i enjoyed it, i did honestly, and the achievements were super easy, im an achievement ****), and even so hes given the games that deserve awards their due. he gave mass effect 2 a 10/10 and their goty award.

while all of you bash the guy, he is just stating his opinion. i know you guys are giving your opinions as well but damn, chill out. it seems to me like you guys are just angry and lashing out at anyone who actually enjoyed the game.

my friend liked the ending and as much as i disagreed with him he stuck with " i liked it, now bring on my blue baby in dlc"..... im still friends with him because hes my street fighter x tekken partner.

i also like his reviews because when everyone was praising the call of duty series he bashed it and awarded bad company 2 and battlefield 3 best shooters of their respective years.


id write this alot better but Bob calls for me in street fighter x tekken. Bob is a Tekken character.

That's fine. The problem, for me at least, is some of his statements are inflametory or self-contradicting and considering how many media outlets are making their stances public (to me often for views) it seems to me it was geared more towards promoting himself than an honest review.

after watching the video again i see your point. when i saw this video, mass effect 3 was 1 day away from release so i was super hyped. only now do i realize

I'm sorry I feel your pain, I'm a fan of IGN's playstation team, including Colin Moriaty. I hate that somebody who I enjoy listening to and respect his opinion on a lot of things not only sometimes can be abbraisive but then has taken a stance against something I feel stronly about. What is most frustrating to me isn't even his stance, it's his flawed and narrow arguments, Oh well. I hope that this is a blip on the radar for Todd Kenreck and he continues to inform you.

his blip on the radar was brink, this is more of a "my poop hit the toilet water with great impact, now theres toilet water in my butt hole" blip. but as i always do, i forgive and forget and move on to his next review that i await, the witcher 2 for xbox 360.

What an amazing quote, just...

[NubXL]

This guy has the balls to say it's perfect and went over our heads. Disgusting.

[Hendrik.III]

Unfathomable that people can actually get these words out of their mouth without vomiting in between. I bet they like Uwe Boll movies as well?

[ticklefist]

Heh, I'll never run out of places to put this

[Foulpancake]

Wow, that guy is monumentally ignorant. There is a huge difference between liking the ending (everyone has a right to their opinion) and not seeing any plot holes. Missing the plot holes is like standing in front of a store with a bright neon "OPEN" sign and pondering..."hmm i wonder if they're open..."

ya maybe if you played it once and didn't pay much attention, did not play the other 2 games and really didn't care that much about the series...ok i can buy missing it, but in that case you really shouldn't be doing a review...

[Erield]

"It is a complex ending, and a broader idea than many stories end on, in a very short amount of time."

That was the closest he ever came to actually looking at the complaints against the ending in an objective manner. Sadly, that statement came directly AFTER this one:

"The ending was on theme with the rest of the Mass Effect universe: it was smart, imaginative, and in some cases, may have gone over a few people's heads." Note the condescension, the marginalization of people that are upset, all while completely missing the point of what people's complaints have actually been.

"I like to play Mass Effect games that are made by the game developers at Bioware, not the ones someone else thinks they are entitled to."

We like playing the Mass Effect games that Bioware makes, too. We just want them to create an ending that lives up to the promises they made after the development cycle had ended, remains within the framework of the story that they themselves built over the course of three games, and provides some sort of post-ending resolution/closure, ie, what the **** happens now that the entire galaxy has been fundamentally altered.

Whoever that was sounds like a smart enough guy, but he doesn't understand our complaints and didn't even attempt to understand them before reacting with thinly veiled taunts and insults. It's one thing to disagree; it's something else to insult the person you disagree with, without providing any sort of substantive argument on WHY your position is better, and I'm a ****ing idiot because **** "went over my head."

I get exactly what Bioware was trying to do with the endings; they just failed at doing it in an acceptable manner.

[Sharn01]

i r dum pleez eplane endin to me nus man