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[NeecHMonkeY]

"I don't understand the ending"

"Either do I, what should we do?"

"We'll just say we understood it so we don't look like idiots."

"Great idea! That way we can also mock people who say they don't understand it - it's too smart for them"

"Yeah, that's it. Makes us look like intellectuals."

[McScroggz24]

Sharn01 wrote...

i r dum pleez eplane endin to me nus man

To quote Three Days Grace, "Everything burns, everything dies..."

[Icophesis]

isn't the "MS" in "MSNBC" mean Microsoft? Considering Mass Effect is a big money maker on the xbox, so of course they'll defend it.

[Peer of the Empire]

 America's future.  Don't be a chump

[Mandemon]

"The ending was theme with the rest of the series"

No it wasn't, which have been proven several times already.

"It functions last as an ending and more as beginning"

No it does not. It was sold as the ending to the series, it was made as the ending to the series and it was planned as the ending of the series.

And then he goes on about artistic freedom

[Wowlock]

Amdnro wrote...

Lol.......wait..........that guy is actually serious.......well than.....

Yep...exactly my reaction.

I wonder if these guys know what a plothole means ? ...or are they just want to jump on ''ME3 Ending wagon'' without searching anything

[recentio]

jkflipflopDAO wrote...

I am a genius. (I know that makes some people rage with jealously, but whatever.)
I have an IQ of over 140.
I am a MENSA member.
I am in the top 2% of all humanity as far as intelligence is concerned.

I can safely say the ending makes no sense what so ever. If you take it at face value, it's a trainwreck, if you subscribe to IT, it's an elegant trainwreck. It completely invalidates the story of the first game while at the same time not answering any of the questions that fans have wanted to know since we figured out Sovereign isn't just Saren's ride.

Same here. IQ, yatta, yatta. Mainly, I do computer theory and architecture (i.e. lots of work with machines and logic), though I've also done work with psychology (language) and creative writing (interpretting poetry, structuring scenes and narratives, etc.). The common thread is that all of these boil down to encoded communications and translations between them. But I digress...

I've read several scholarly deconstructions of the ending and its fit to the larger narrative, and I agree with their conclusions. It is a bad ending. An unfitting ending. An ending that does not make sense according to what came before. Further, the Starchild's central premise that "all synthetics are destined to kill all organics" is laughable; yet, accepted without question by many thanks to years of Hollywood evil-robot conditioning. *rolls eyes* That Shepard never even challenges that idea implies the creators may not have recognized it was a flawed assumption or thought the audience would not find it to be a flawed assumption worth at least questioning.

My guess on this MSNBC guy is that he has a thing for pseudophilosophy; so the Starchild's scenario appeals to him personally -- it may be right at his conceptual 'challenge level.' That enjoyment, plus the enjoyment of being more clever than the slobbering proletariat seduces him towards a "this is great and other ppl are too dumb to get it but I do" notion. Hubris at its finest. Admitedly, this is second-hand guesswork on my part based only on what I've seen of his responses and my imperfect understanding of hipster nature.

Modifié par recentio, 23 mars 2012 - 07:34 .

[SeanThen1]

He probably didn't know Mass Effect lacked teleportation technology and that the Starchild wasn't around in ME1 or ME2.

[DVZ]

First Ken Levine at Bioshock, now MSNBC... makes you wonder how many of these Bioware are paying (financial or otherwise) for their support.

[MasterRed_ko7]

We are all entitled to our own opinions. If he thought the ending was perfect, that's fine.

But obviously countless others disagree with him on this matter. Enough so that they might change the ending in some way that respects us and the development team for the game.

Hopefully, it will be a free DLC for the game, which shows what happens after Shepard takes that single gasp of breath after the three choices.


Excluding the ending, the game really does deserve a perfect score. It's better than most other titles these days, at least. >.>

[Ghost of a Messiah]

How does anything involving MSLSD have any credibility?

[recentio]

MasterRed_ko7 wrote...

We are all entitled to our own opinions. If he thought the ending was perfect, that's fine.

I agree, but he goes as far as to say that the ending is too "complex" for people who "don't get it" like he does. Ergo, he is tacitly asserting that he is smarter than anyone who thinks the ending is flawed. Ergo, people who think the ending is flawed are dumb. Even a dummy like me can follow that chain of implications.

[Dridengx]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Why would we watch it after you made that thread title?

perhaps in a small chance he might address a 'plothole' you think you have a problem with?

Modifié par Dridengx, 23 mars 2012 - 07:48 .

[ticklefist]

Same dude also called SWTOR the 2011 GOTY.

[DVZ]

ticklefist wrote...

Same dude also called SWTOR the 2011 GOTY.

Another Bioware title. Surprise surprise.

[lordofthejewsjr]

ticklefist wrote...

Same dude also called SWTOR the 2011 GOTY.

he gave mass effect 2 goty in 2010..... he likes sci fi.

Modifié par lordofthejewsjr, 23 mars 2012 - 08:07 .

[Dridengx]

DVZ wrote...

ticklefist wrote...

Same dude also called SWTOR the 2011 GOTY.

Another Bioware title. Surprise surprise.

Instead of thinking everyone is paid off did you ever consider maybe he's into Sci Fi? Star Wars is legendary, Mass Effect is the biggest Sci Fi rpg of this generation. It doesn't take a genius to notice the connection. You guys said it yourselves ME3 is amazing 99% of it except the last 10mins. So how far fetched is his review if he enjoyed the ending? stop making yourselves look so awful, wasn't the Charity enough for tonight?

[I Tsunayoshi I]

I'd attempt to take him seriously if he didnt work for MSNBC, a channel that is pretty much owned by the Democratic party and used solely for the reasoning of spreading their propaganda.

This beats Fox doing an uninformed segment on ME1 all those years ago.

[Dridengx]

Sora Kitano wrote...

I'd attempt to take him seriously if he didnt work for MSNBC, a channel that is pretty much owned by the Democratic party.

 As if everyone who works there has the same beliefs.

Modifié par Dridengx, 23 mars 2012 - 08:09 .

[Arios1570]

I'm not quite sure what there was to miss about the message of the ending...anyone?

[Zulmoka531]

I'm becoming disillusioned with the gaming world. I can go to countless websites completely different from this, and see topics on ME3. Many hate the endings for many reasons. A few don't really care, and then others actually liked them. But even then there was conversation on how things could have been handled better.

Then I see "mainstream" critics kissing ***. Belittling people, etc. I can't believe one of the games I had been so looking forward to has blossomed into this.

I'm truly not trying to be over dramatic here, but I think I'm done with Bioware for a while. Everyone is most certainly entitled to their opinion and their wants, but this has left such a sour taste in my mouth that I want to distance myself as far as I can from it.

Diablo III cannot come soon enough, at least I know I'm headed into Hell in that game.

[lanep25]

I hate paid reviewers. At least PC Gamers review on the end of ME3 was honest, but non-spoiler, so he didn't go into too much detail. This is what Tom Francis from PC Gamer had to say on the ending:

*He was talking about about collecting War Assets in a solely single-player situation, and that to get the "best ending","you'll have to grind the living hell out of its most tedious fetch quests to get the best ending." He continues, "The ending I got could have gone a lot better." [italics are in the magazine] "It's satisfying in some ways, nonsensical in others, and ultimately too simple. ... It left me feeling incredibly sad." "I'm thinking back through all that [ his Mass Effect journey through games 1, 2,  and 3]  as the credits roll, and at the end of them a box pops up. It says: you can continue to build Shepard's legend through further gameplay and downloadable content - and reloads my last save."

At least there's still some honest reviewers out there that will point out subpar parts in games.

[BaladasDemnevanni]

Dridengx wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Why would we watch it after you made that thread title?

perhaps in a small chance he might address a 'plothole' you think you have a problem with?

A shame that doesn't actually happen in the video.

[KingKhan03]

If after Shepherd made his choice The Starchild started dancing to Sexy And I Know It, it would of made more sense.

[sistersafetypin]

And MSNBC isn't news. Oh look, I can make subjective comments too!