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My Discussion With "Gabe" (Penny Arcade) regarding charity shut-down


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Actinguy1

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Greetings, super friends!  Like many of you, I was appalled by Penny Arcade's decision to shut down the charity.  I tweeted "Tycho" and "Gabe" (Penny Arcade's founders) about my dismay.  Gabe was kind enough to respond.  I am @TheFroats.

 @TheFroats:
@cwgabriel @TychoBrahe We say, here, free money to go buy sick children toys...and you say NO??? Have you guys lost your God Damned MINDS?

@TheFroats:
@cwgabriel @TychoBrahe CP used to be about helping kids and combating negative gamer stereotypes. What changed? You forgot your mission.

@cwgabriel:
@TheFroats I don't know what to tell you man. If you read what Jamie said and still think that way I'm sorry.

@TheFroats
I did and I do. If someone says "Support child's play if you like Kiddie Porn", shut that down, totally. But a blanket policy?

@cwgabriel:
@TheFroats Child's Play is not a tool to draw attention to your cause. Child's Play is the cause. That's our feeling on it.

@TheFroats
@cwgabriel It was not a tool to draw attention. It was a tool to fight a negative stereotype...which is why you guys created it, remember?

@cwgabriel:
@TheFroats it's not your tool to fight your negative stereotype. you can not use the charity as a shield.

@TheFroats
@cwgabriel It was a tool to fight "our" negative stereotype...the one you created the charity to fight. Gamers. Not ME3 detractors. Gamers.

@TheFroats
@cwgabriel Maybe I can't change your mind. But you were one of the good guys...and you broke my heart tonight. We wanted to help and we did.

@cwgabriel
@TheFroats I'm sorry man. I hope me taking the time to talk with you about it at least shows you that I care about it.

@TheFroats
@cwgabriel I don't doubt you care, I doubt that you're making the right call. Who's helping the kids, who's hurting them? Thx for your time.
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Thought I'd post this so people at least can see where they're coming from.  Am I wrong?  Is he?

EDIT:  A few things have happened since I posted this.  First, Tycho (the other founder of Penny Arcade and Child's Play), posted a more reasonable response: http://penny-arcade....ake-mass-effect

Second, I've caught some flak for starting out by asking if they were out of their god damned minds, and rightfully so.  That's not a good way to start a conversation.  Sadly, I am human, and I have emotions.  This was my emotion when I learned that they had shut down our charity drive.

Third, it's become apparent that some people don't understand: Tycho and Gabe (real names: Jerry and Mike) co-founded Penny Arcade and Child's Play.  They have since hired a woman, Jamie, to run the day to day of the business...but Jamie is their employee.  They are still entirely in control of Child's Play.

Fourth AND MOST IMPORTANT:  This should not be used to attack Child's Play, which remains an entirely worthy charity.  There was a suggestion that we forward this to Forbes.  Please do not do that.  We gain nothing by attacking a worthy cause.  If you agree with them, fine.  If you don't, focus in on Penny Arcade, but don't destroy Child's Play.

My own personal view is that I understand Child's Play's position (now that Tycho has added new details)...but that I am still insulted. I was insulted in how they've covered the story to begin with (acting like authority figures when they admit in their tv series that they are only casual fans), and this is the icing on the cake. People are free to continue to donate to Child's Play. This is their right. I will take my dollars where they are appreciated. This is my right. Child's Play remains a worthy charity...there are also others.

Thanks for all the responses!

Modifié par Actinguy1, 23 mars 2012 - 06:28 .


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Stanley Woo

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Those who are raging about Child's Play's decision and/or Tycho and Gabe's response and/or are asking for their money to be refunded and/or thought this was some kind of fundraising campaign to pay for BioWare to change Mass Effect 3's ending need to take a step back, take a few deep breaths, and read things more closely with an open mind. Because if you are doing anything I mentioned above, if you want to "blame" the organization or Penny Arcade for "stealing" your money or for not doing what you want with the money you willingly donated to help sick kids in hospitals, then consider that you might, in fact, be using Child's Play as your tool and not donating in good faith.

And if you weren't donating in good faith, you are doing the Retake Mass Effect and yourself (not to mention the sick kids in the hospitals who benefit from the donations) a great disservice. Before I left work today, I was proud of our community for doing what can only be described as "a good thing." After reading the last few pages of this thread and the OP, I may be reserving my judgement hereafter. Some of you have left me down, man, and I don't like to be wrong about people.

That said, there is way too much raging, misinformation, willfull ignorance, name-calling, and bashing going on in here so it's going away.

End of line.