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[Pfor]

If you guys feel so strongly then I guess you can donate directly to the charity.

[GuretoOnizuka]

Seriously If I wanted to donate for 2 causes in which I strongly believe in why take one away?

[Paparob]

I can understand why it makes them a bit uncomfortable.

[CheeseEnchilada]

The_Crazy_Hand wrote...

 I hate to tell you this, but we need to just let it go.  As of now, the reception we got is overall positive.  We've said our peace, and it's over now.  Pushing will just destroy the progress this made for us.

I agree with this. We did a great thing, helped a bunch of children, and in the end, that's what matters. This is frustrating, but it doesn't mean we have to stop donating and helping others. Pointing fingers and looking for someone to blame is just riling up the negativity that this drive was started to help alleviate.

[Marixus99.9]

http://penny-arcade....ake-mass-effect


Bumping link to third page. 

[aliengmr1]

That is....appalling.



Edit: I agree we risk doing more harm than good, we need to ignore it.

Modifié par aliengmr1, 23 mars 2012 - 05:20 .

[deimosmasque]

"@cwgabriel:@TheFroats it's not your tool to fight your negative stereotype. you can not use the charity as a shield."

It's funny most are focusing on this part when I see it as more this part:

@cwgabriel: @TheFroats Child's Play is not a tool to draw attention to your cause. Child's Play is the cause. That's our feeling on it.

In all honestly what was the point in having a Retake Mass Effect Child's Play donation drive?  To bring attention to the Retake Mass Effect cause.  I can't say I disagree with the idea of not allowing their cause to be used for any reason than what they intended it for.

As for the idea of it being used as a shield in general.  At first it was, lately not so much.. except by randoms and unknowns who use it on 'message board xyz' to defend the movement from criticism. Even then I don't see that as much as I did a week ago.

It's a shame they decided to refuse the money, but that is thier perogative.

[CronoDragoon]

Read Tycho's post, guys. He liked the charity drive, but he needed to make a policy decision regarding donation drives for causes to prevent future uncomfortable situations. It's not an unfair move, and if you still want to help kids, just donate. They haven't banned you from donating.

[Blackmind1]

Goose1004 wrote...

Marixus99.9 wrote...

http://penny-arcade....ake-mass-effect

Their response.

Needs to be quoted again

Very well said. As it stood, Child's Play was being used as a tool, and it was disgraceful that it got as far as it did. People were using it as an emotional weapon against Bioware so they could get their ending fixed.

[nhcre8tv1]

WHAT? Do the kids still get the help and money, though? That was the number one (and probably only) reason I jumped on this "movement" was because it was actually being productive and not self prioritized. I understand where both of you were coming from but, why would you do this? I donate to charities all the time, including child's play, and this was just a cool thing to make the movement not pointless and whiny looking (no thanks to that FTC complainer). And did what I read true people ASKED FOR THEIR CHARITY DONATIONS BACK? WTF BRO?

Modifié par nhcre8tv1, 23 mars 2012 - 05:26 .

[Meteor_VII]

Okay so just read the post on Penny-Arcade ... who in their right mind sends a letter to a charity that has no connection to bioware asking if the donation is high enough to get ending stuff done.

[magikbbg]

I just wanted to add that its terrible that they ended this donation drive because of "political" reasons. If they don't agree with our message will they refund our money back? Nope. They just treated us like a terrorist organization then said "thanks for the money though". I feel really dirty that I gave some money to the cause. I bet that money is gone, if you called childsplay they'd be like we dunno wut retake movement is. lol (jk just being cynical)

Why do I keep getting bad endings since 3-6-12 ??!


dont charities always get used as tools for movements in america? kinda like invisiblechildren to start a war for natural resoucres in uganda?

Modifié par magikbbg, 23 mars 2012 - 05:20 .

[Eivuwan]

Actinguy1 wrote...

Tycho has weighed in on his thoughts (other co-founder of Child's Play) http://penny-arcade....ake-mass-effect

He made some good points. It is sad that so many gamers can't read the petition goals and that some demanded their money back.

[Strange Aeons]

I think there's enough well-justified negativity to go around regarding the ending without trying to turn this into a major issue as well.

I don't agree with PA's relentlessly derogatory take on the fan response to the ending fiasco, but they're not the bad guys here either. They're just doing what they think they need to do to protect their organization from potential problems in the future, I guess. I can't pretend to know all the reasons, but it's their call.

Just be happy that $80000 was raised for a good cause and move on.

[The Angry One]

Who the hell cares why people donate, if people want to donate to promote a cause let them.
Stop pretending this has anything to do with using a charity to promote a cause, that's done all the time. The charities benefit either way.

This is the biased fools at PA making it clear that they don't want to be associated with anything that may jeapordise their relationship with BioWare.
Gabe and Mike are a pair of shills, and they disgust me.

[goatman42]

Yes, charity is awesome but I have to agree with Gabe on this one. Even if you guys didn't realize it, the donations were being used as a way to get attention. They may have not been the intention, but it is what ended up happening.

[The Angry One]

CronoDragoon wrote...

Read Tycho's post, guys. He liked the charity drive, but he needed to make a policy decision regarding donation drives for causes to prevent future uncomfortable situations. It's not an unfair move, and if you still want to help kids, just donate. They haven't banned you from donating.

Yes, just do so silently. Don't you dare promote a cause.

Modifié par The Angry One, 23 mars 2012 - 05:20 .

[MystaisPC]

Who the heck would ask for their money back... from a charity? Wow

[CronoDragoon]

Blackmind1 wrote...

Goose1004 wrote...

Marixus99.9 wrote...

http://penny-arcade....ake-mass-effect

Their response.

Needs to be quoted again

Very well said. As it stood, Child's Play was being used as a tool, and it was disgraceful that it got as far as it did. People were using it as an emotional weapon against Bioware so they could get their ending fixed.

If you think this was the only reason people donated, you are a fool.

[brian_breed]

How about you don't go search out another charity? How about instead, if you seriously want your donations to be for the sake of helping sick children and negating the stereotype of gamers as detached and apathetic, you continue to donate to Child's Play independently of Retake? I think that sends a more beautiful message.

[Pfor]

magikbbg wrote...

I just wanted to add that its terrible that they ended this donation drive because of "political" reasons. If they don't agree with our message will they refund our money back? Nope. They just treated us like a terrorist organization then said "thanks for the money though". I feel really dirty that I gave some money to the cause. I bet that money is gone, if you called childsplay they'd be like we dunno wut retake movement is. lol (jk just being cynical)

Why do I keep getting bad endings since 3-6-12 ??!

You want your money back now? I thought it was for the kids. 

[GuretoOnizuka]

I might just add that not many people Heard of Child's Play Before Retake and Retake kinda gave them alot of Publicity

[joshko]

It's very sad that they did that.
Doesn't everyone who has a charity for a cause using to advance their cause and use it as a shield?
Isn't that the point?
If this makes them uncomfortable why even have it in the first place, or at least let us start Retake charity in the first place?

[Greed1914]

The_Crazy_Hand wrote...

 I hate to tell you this, but we need to just let it go.  As of now, the reception we got is overall positive.  We've said our peace, and it's over now.  Pushing will just destroy the progress this made for us.

Agreed.  Railing against this just makes it look like people were in it for the stunt.  It's done.  A bunch of money is going to a good cause, let's just be happy about that.

[Cody211282]

Marixus99.9 wrote...


http://penny-arcade....ake-mass-effect


Bumping link to third page. 

Thanks for posting that, it clears a lot up.