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[HenchxNarf]

Bachi1230 wrote...

stupid people doing stupid things. I'm hoping the people who did this were just trolls and not actual people who donated money to get a new ending then found out the money was going to help children and demand it back...

And if they are serious, to me, there's a special spot down below for people like that.

[Quietness]

SamFlagg wrote...

Valo_Soren wrote...

If it wasn't clear who they were giving their money too then they should be getting their money back.

The page straight out says who the money was being given too.  If they fail basic reading comprehension I don't know that I agree.

All I'd want to know is how much money was asked to be returned so I could see if if we could offset that.

^^^^

You also see child's play several times on the way through, you also are redirected to a child's play page for a receipt. This whole thing is just sad that people can be this ... stupid? i dunno a good word for it, its late

[Brightside8]

Just a shame that a few morons had to ruin the charity.

I think they ultimately did the right thing, as people were misunderstanding the charity and demanding their donations back, which is just appalling.

[M12311]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Asking for your money back from a charity is deplorable, and they have every right to call those people indian givers.

Starting a thread insinuating that the main reason for cancelling the Child's Play Donation drive was that we are "indian givers" is a dangerous path. I might be the only one interpreting this thread as such, but that's how I see it.

[Tyrzun]

Quietness wrote...

Turtlicious wrote...

god. People are retarded, no wonder they called us entitled brats.

F*cking idiots.

Yea its unfortunate that the complete a**clowns are represented more by everyone rather than the calm rational side...

Have heart.  That's not the case.

You know what angers people more than anything?  Turning your back on them.  it's because you dismiss them.  When you see one person trying to fight with many different people, it's because most are just dimissing them.  After a certain life experience level, most people instinctively know when to do this.

So, if 20 people post in a thread and none of them respond to the 1 person just looking to troll.  You're seeing it in action.

Also remember this, nothing anyone says means a thing.  This is over, we won.  That's why there is all this rage directed towards us now with lower and lower tactics being employed.

WE raised a lot of money for a worth charity.

We also got a massive sign of respect from the man himself  Dr. Ray Muzyka when he said "So, it’s incredibly painful to receive feedback from our core fans that the game’s endings were not up to their expectations."

He called US retake member the CORE of Bioware.  He the expectations we had were not met.

Multple media sites have confired we are getting our changed endings.  Bioware would never not do it now, the media would have them mislead their readers and the media would be all over Bioware for misleading everyone again etc...

This is over.  We did win.

So, expect more and more rage and dirty tricks directed at the Retake movement.

This is also why PA said we won.  We did.

The last fight is to get it for free as we expected, getting our complete endings.  That's it.

So, smile and be happy any time you read one of these baited troll posts.

Modifié par Tyrzun, 23 mars 2012 - 07:22 .

[Nefelius]

Everytime I think that after all humanity deserve to exist, all of a sudden the universe just reassures me that the idiocy will be our undoing.
Jesus, what kind of delirious moron you have to be to confuse everything like that?
#%@^ that....

Modifié par Nefelius, 23 mars 2012 - 07:19 .

[Dridengx]

Quietness wrote...

As the main point of contact for Child’s Play, Jamie has been buried under mail about this situation.  Apparently some of the people giving to the cause seemed to think that they were paying for a new ending to Mass Effect. She’s been asked what the goal is, and how much they need to raise in order to get the ending produced. We’ve also been contacted by PayPal due to a high number of people asking for their donations back.  This is in addition to readers who simply couldn’t understand how this was connected to Child’s Play’s mission.  We were dealing with a lot of very confused people, more every day, and that told us we had a problem.  

THEY STOPPED IT PRIMARLY DUE TO A BUNCH OF IDIOTS WHO CANT TIE THEIR SHOES DONATING MONEY THINKING IT WAS GOING TO BIOWARE, AND THAN CHARGING IT BACK.

Wow, so members of your own movement got the charity closed? genius. I'd like to point out that I among other pro enders were blamed for this, along with EA, Bioware, and everyone else. I don't expect an apology but I do think its pretty funny. I do however feel sorry for the ones who were misled into thinking the money was going to a new ending by people blinded by rage to get attention. I also feel sorry for those who actually believe they can get their money back if you are going to fight for your money back, think of the children before you try.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

I knew it. I knew people will ask for their donations back because they thought they were buying new endings. Great job folks.

[Lambda Diamond]

Wanted there money back? ****es

[plaguecaller]

I said it in the other thread and I'll say it in this one.

WE DID GOOD

Actually no you did harm you messed up a charity. That is nothing to be proud of. I hope the founder/founders of the retake understand the impact of what just occurred because they had no leadership skills.

Well done your ingnorance actually harmed something that was doing a postive thing.

Probably wasting my words in this post given the movement seems to have challenges around critical thinking. It's founder(s) sure prove they have no reflective skills.

Try apologising to the people running to the charity rather than slagging them. You harmed them. by trying to use the charity to white wash your antics.


Waste of sperm comes to mind as a descriptor for me when I think about the movement now.


Should be hanging your heads in shame and wearing it instead of trying to weasel out.

Modifié par plaguecaller, 23 mars 2012 - 07:26 .

[Quietness]

Dridengx wrote...

Quietness wrote...

As the main point of contact for Child’s Play, Jamie has been buried under mail about this situation.  Apparently some of the people giving to the cause seemed to think that they were paying for a new ending to Mass Effect. She’s been asked what the goal is, and how much they need to raise in order to get the ending produced. We’ve also been contacted by PayPal due to a high number of people asking for their donations back.  This is in addition to readers who simply couldn’t understand how this was connected to Child’s Play’s mission.  We were dealing with a lot of very confused people, more every day, and that told us we had a problem.  

THEY STOPPED IT PRIMARLY DUE TO A BUNCH OF IDIOTS WHO CANT TIE THEIR SHOES DONATING MONEY THINKING IT WAS GOING TO BIOWARE, AND THAN CHARGING IT BACK.

Wow, so members of your own movement got the charity closed? genius. I'd like to point out that I among other pro enders were blamed for this, along with EA, Bioware, and everyone else. I don't expect an apology but I do think its pretty funny. I do however feel sorry for the ones who were misled into thinking the money was going to a new ending by people blinded by rage to get attention. I also feel sorry for those who actually believe they can get their money back if you are going to fight for your money back, think of the children before you try.

Read the whole thing ^^ Enders may have had a role, they didnt say in the article, they chargebacks issued through paypal can cause many issues making it too much of a pain in the a** to resolve the other issues that they would have had with the charity.

[Bufardo74]

morph4037 wrote...

I hope the people asking for refunds from a charity never reproduce...

I find it utterly hilarious that this post was made by someone whose avatar is a krogan! 

In all seriousness, I agree with morph4037's sentiment; what kind of puke renegs on a contribution to a charity?!

[Nicky 192]

Was for the kids that was always the priority

[ticklefist]

People asking for refunds is an absolute embarrassment and has me considering washing my hands of this entire affair altogether. It's hard to "hold the line" and stand shoulder to shoulder with people behaving like that.

Up with this thread.

Modifié par ticklefist, 23 mars 2012 - 07:23 .

[Quietness]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

I knew it. I knew people will ask for their donations back because they thought they were buying new endings. Great job folks.

Nope bad excuse for any chargeback, there was no question during the payment process where the money was going.

[GBGriffin]

Quietness wrote...

Yea its unfortunate that the complete a**clowns are represented more by everyone rather than the calm rational side...

I'm honestly speechless over all of this. The minority is starting to just get way out of hand and crossing the line more and more rather than holding it.

I checked the forums earlier when the conspiracy theories were beginning to form, but really, people in the movement ended up being the downfall. Did people seriously just not read and understand the OP of the charity thread? How could people be so foolish as to think we were trying to raise money for BioWare? People donated out of confusion, possibly out of emotion, without understanding what they were donating towards...

...And then asked for the money back from the charity? That's just....awful. Truly awful, imo. Yes, we (overall) helped the kids by donating what I assume is still a large amount, but honestly...people are just starting to get out of control with this, and that number seems to be growing (to me, this would have to involve more than just a small handful of people).

This is pretty much the final straw for me. The majority of the movement, while relatively good and civil overall, is starting to become overshadowed by the sheer craziness of the minority. It started, for me, with the ongoing threats and demands against BioWare, as well as bashing one another over theories and this and that, but this is just getting ridiculous. The movement, even if it is just the minority, ended up sabotaging its own charity.

Just as I didn't want to be lumped into the same group as people protesting the game due to homosexual content, I do not want to be lumped into the same group with people who are trying to get charge backs from a charity that is trying to help sick children.

I'm done with this, though. BioWare / Dr. Muzyka said April, so I'll check back then. In the mean time, for the people that ended up ruining this for the rest of us, learn to read, think, and actually give a damn about people outside of yourself. If you ever donate to anything in the future (I doubt you will unless it serves your own interests, clearly), actually read the charity's and the cause's mission statements so you understand their goal.

Also, if the movement backs another charity, then make the mission statement even more idiot-proof than before.

[Mandemon]

Never donated for ending. To raise awareness, yes, but money was never supposed to go Bioware. It was always meant to go to children, no matter the outcome.

Some people apparently failed to understand what Child's Play is...

[KaeserZen]

morph4037 wrote...

I hope the people asking for refunds from a charity never reproduce...

Yeah, I agree with that. Charity is not a bargain, conditional to obtaining ME3's new endings.

[Tyrzun]

ticklefist wrote...

People asking for refunds is an absolute embarrassment and has me considering washing my hands of this entire affair altogether. It's hard to "hold the line" and stand shoulder to shoulder with people behaving like that.

Up with this thread.

That's exactly why they did it and are posting it.  It's internal sabotage.  There are 2 people in this thread that people keep talking to that have NO INTENTION of holding the line and never did as they pretend to.  So, they can make us look bad.

You people seriously need to STOP arguing with people just trying to get you riled up and make you look bad.

Where is the intelligence in getting baited?

Modifié par Tyrzun, 23 mars 2012 - 07:28 .

[garf]

Madecologist wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Madecologist wrote...

Generally charities do not like being associated with any external movement.

Depends on the movement and the charity. Charities are businesses and political organizations. Not to mention that people who are involved with charities are also often involved in movements.

Do you think a charity to support a GBLT Youth Summer Camp would turn down donations from a Marriage Equality movement? More than likely, they'd end up on the brochure as a sponsor.

Well if the Charity shares common interest to a common cause. It makes sense, since they directly support each other.

Even the article you linked plainly states the reasons has nothing to do with the movement's motives, but about being connected to any movement who's agenda is not the charity itself.

However I did use the word external agenda for this reason. It is like how TVA can not pass any separatist or federalist agenda when doing a Enfant Soliel drive, inviting any artist that wishes to help with the fundraiser despite nationalistic opinion or agendas. No nationalistic politics will be discussed or brought up during the charity special.

At this point all Canadians in this forum now knows which Province I live in.

wait... um... Calgary...

 :lol:

[turian_rage]

It's going to children in need. Really? They're really going to deny money to children, even if it supports the same cause?

Modifié par turian_rage, 23 mars 2012 - 07:26 .

[HenchxNarf]

plaguecaller wrote...

I said it in the other thread and I'll say it in this one.

WE DID GOOD

Actually no you did harm you messed up a charity. That is nothing to be proud of. I hope the founder/founders of the retake understand the impact of what just occurred because they had no leadership skills.

Well done your ingnorance actually harmed something that was doing a postive thing.

Probably wasting my words in this post given the movement seems to have challenges around critical thinking. It's founder(s) sure prove they have no reflective skills.

Try apologising to the people running to the charity rather than slagging them. You harmed them. by trying to use the charity to white wash your antics.


Waste of sperm comes to mind as a descriptor for me when I think about the movement now.


Shousl be hanging your heads in shame and wearing it instead of trying to weasel out.

I agree.

Also, those asking for a refund is proving the point I've been trying to prove all along. It was never for the children. It was to bully bioware to get a new ending.

[DemGeth]

calgary and their insistence on speaking spanish damn them

[Quietness]

garf wrote...

Madecologist wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Madecologist wrote...

Generally charities do not like being associated with any external movement.

Depends on the movement and the charity. Charities are businesses and political organizations. Not to mention that people who are involved with charities are also often involved in movements.

Do you think a charity to support a GBLT Youth Summer Camp would turn down donations from a Marriage Equality movement? More than likely, they'd end up on the brochure as a sponsor.

Well if the Charity shares common interest to a common cause. It makes sense, since they directly support each other.

Even the article you linked plainly states the reasons has nothing to do with the movement's motives, but about being connected to any movement who's agenda is not the charity itself.

However I did use the word external agenda for this reason. It is like how TVA can not pass any separatist or federalist agenda when doing a Enfant Soliel drive, inviting any artist that wishes to help with the fundraiser despite nationalistic opinion or agendas. No nationalistic politics will be discussed or brought up during the charity special.

At this point all Canadians in this forum now knows which Province I live in.

wait... um... Calgary...

 :lol:

there are a few of us around xP

[plaguecaller]

retake = fail

Modifié par plaguecaller, 23 mars 2012 - 07:27 .