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Would you prefer a re-write or an explanation?


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#251
Asari

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Rewrite 100% of that ending.

I even think that the rush to the beam should be optional..would be cool.

#252
SirCroft

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Rewrite. But I'm taking what I can get.

#253
xScarecrowX

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Rewrite. The running to the beam wasn't that bad, IMO. It was kinda cool to rush past dying soldiers and explosions, just booking it to the beam. Pretty much everything after that though went down the toilet. (Although Anderson's and the Illusive Man's deaths were handled nicely)

#254
gmboy902

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I would prefer a rewrite. I could accept closure and conclusion.

Personally, a rewrite of every single plot element past the magical lift after Anderson's death would be great. Just rip the space kid out of the plot entirely, different ending options, still make sacrifice mandatory to some degree of course.

#255
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A rewrite...

Rewrite with real, diverse, and meaningful choices...

Choices that actually change the final outcome of the story...

As was promised to us before release...

A promise that secured my purchase of the pre-release...

And I'm sure many thousands, if not tens of thousands of other people.

#256
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See, this is the point. For everyone that has followed this series, it is clear that the endings are simply not consistent with the rest of the series, not just in quality but in lore and cohesiveness and we have all tried to come of with hypotheticals for the endings to make sense but it just doesn't work. In that light, only a re-write makes sense

This is no ones fault but their own. They made bold promises about the end of the game fully knowing it was less than half-a***d.

#257
anonymous137

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Rewrite.

#258
spartan5127

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Rewrite. If not, I'll accept it. Anything to put this mess behind us. However, if it isn't a rewrite and just some lame "clarification" then we can still put this behind us, but ME will be a thing we look back on with sadness and not joy.

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TK EL_

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But what I see happening is a bad attempt at an explanation which raises just as many questions as it answers and digs as many more plot holes as it fills, at which point more interaction wouldn't even be worth it and most would just take their money elsewhere including me

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Rewrite. I'm not an idiot, I prefecty understood the ending. And I perfectly understood how it's really badly written, and full of plothole. Also, I'm perfectly aware the starchild is a cheap and useless deus ex machina.
But thanks for the offer BW.

#261
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Unless the explanation involves indoctrination, then rewrite. At the very least, if you're not getting rid of godchild, give us the option to call bull**** on his "synthetics and organics can't live in peace without synthesis" crap. Because right now our only three options are "Saren was right", "TIM was right", or "KILL ALL SYNTHETICS". How about I tell him to go to hell and let that high EMS score I spent so much time cultivating decide whether we win or not.

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KTheAlchemist wrote...

 I'm not sure if what I want and hope that they do qualifies as either.

If it were put to me personally I would not ask them to change the ending. That ship has sailed, and to ask them to completely change the ending might interfere with artistic vision as many have suggested.

Rather, what I would like to see is more endings added to the game. More options. I'd like to see an option to tell the StarGodChild that its logic is flawed due to peace between Geth and Quarians, EDI, and et cetera. This option could then branch into more options and plot branches or segments of the conclusion depending upon what the player did.

I don't want the current ending erased because there are some people out there who enjoyed it. Rather I would like something that offers the possibility for the wildly divergent endings that we were hoping for, and gives options for heroic sacrifice or heroic triumph in a final battle with the reapers. I would like at least the possibility of Shepard rescuing the galaxy and living on beyond the events of Mass Effect 3 to live out her or his days in a fashion in alignment with the way you played the game.

I think that this would also enrich the game by giving a wider variety of ways to finish it once you had the DLC installed. Everything from the original Control/Destroy/Synthesis endings to things wildly different.


Pretty much summed up my feelings on this issue. If I wanted a happy ending where I end up with my LI and doing what I promised them throughout the game, I should be able to have it. If I want to nobly sacrifice myself for the good of humanity, I should be able to. And if I want to be a super renegade and destory the Reapers at all costs no matter the collateral damage, I should be able to. I know it's asking a lot but it kinda makes sense and given the variety of outcomes bioware has been able to produce so far, I don't think it's a stretch

#263
TheTrueObelus

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I don't think they can explain the current endings. They need to rewrite them

#264
Axolotl Shepard

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Keep the general premise, because we need to keep some level of respect for their artistic vision, but at the same time, the ending needs to be (1x10^Billion)% clearer, explained, expanded, and needs to show the effects of your decisions.

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Would you prefer a re-write or an explanation?


Neither of them.
I would like that they extend the current ending (leaving out that normandy crash video) by following the indoctrination theory and addin the "real ending".

so you might call this a re-write, dunno...

#266
CJMissen

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re-write at this point, either that or adding in re-written endings, leaving the current vague on as an OPTION for kinda the middleground of success, (you succeed but only just) even if they did explain it, i'd be happier but not satisfied at all and it would still be difficult for me to go back to the game. I'm trying to, but the fact that its a hard thing to do is telling

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#267
Wabajakka

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Neither. An expansion for what happens after. (Indoc + crucible ruse or time lapse/Tarantino'd)

#268
Xenite

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Rewrite

#269
Spartanburger

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Rewrite.

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Cgrissom wrote...

Of the two choices, rewrite. Space Magic will never seem right in the Mass Effect universe.


This.

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Rewrite as well. The whole Crucible/Catalyst angle is horrible.

Mass Effect is easily my favorite game of all time. ME3 had some issues I was able to overlook because the story that was unfolding was amazing. But then the Crucible happened. All of my efforts in previous game basically boiled down to a numerical value on the War Assets (excel spacemagic edition). I saved the Rachni twice to have a measly couple points for Rachni Workers to help build this stupid device? I've seen and read Contact and couldn't help but feel like this Crucible thing was up to no good. I was even willing to overlook the appearance that the Catalyst chose to take because of this reference (something non-threatening).

The whole London mission was such a let down compared to what it could have been. Yes I had high expectations but the rest of the game was so phenomenal I thought it could only get better. But the moment that ridiculous elevator to heaven came down, critical plot failure. Pure disbelief. What is going on? Who's this? That's it? WHY?

The Reapers we're already fascinating on their own, WHY did they have to put this character in?
No discussion with Harbinger? (oh come on IT, I've read all your theories and proofs and they simply outline the laziness and disconnect of the endings)
To try and be artistic? By artistic you mean ripping off other works of art/movies/media and clumsily patch it together and hope you can cash in by the end of the fiscal year and maybe the fans will overlook it as daring or artsy?

If Bioware really stands behind its endings, it has to come out and acknowledge them and mention that they have to be taken at face value. No IT mind****s, or pseudo-philosophy. Clarify that these endings are the ones you decided to go with and people just need to deal with it.

Otherwise, acknowledge that you we're rushed by EA, had to meet deadlines, you decided to conclude in a fashion similar to Lost or BSG (shocking), Deus Ex, Matrix, cranked it to 11, recycle pre-rendered cutscenes and expected to have a wide range of reactions. Lots of speculation from everyone! Of course you weren't going to please everyone! But by ending your trilogy this way you have alienated an incredible amount of fans. How can you come out and say that the reaction was unexpected?

After two weeks of constant scouting of these forums, /r/masseffect, various dev twitters, looking for some sort of OFFICIAL STATEMENT, not obscure PR blogposts or spin to deflect and belittle these *vocal minorities*, I am tired. I haven't been this passionate about a game universe ever. It deserved far more this sorry attempt at a conclusion. So following Dr. Muzyka's statement, I eagerly awaits the next official statement from Bioware in april, probably at PAX?

The attitude that Bioware/EA has right now is seriously worrying me. What's stopping them from discussing it RIGHT NOW? Fear of sales loss? It can only benefit them to address this issue. It would stop all this pointless anger and rage and people could move on. Now we are just left wondering if the endings are real, a dream, hallucination, brilliant, or the worse endings of all time. The state of the galaxy post Space Magic, desperately analyzing the few information we have been given. I was utterly pissed at BSG for ending this way but I moved on, same with Lost, but Mass Effect...

#272
x-Killision-X

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re-write, but in the option menu have a tab for ORIGINAL ENDING or EXPANDED ENDING just like the subtitle tab. This way both the fans who are happy with ending stay happy, and all of us are satisfied as well.

#273
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There's nothing to explain. Rewrite.

#274
panamakira

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To be honest I'm fine with these endings staying as they are.....I just want another option, a fourth or fifth option and that those options change according to our actions in the game.

But since we're probably getting an explanation of whatever we have right I'm not hoping for much. It can't be worse right?

#275
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What needs to happen? At the very least, indoctrination theory should be tacked onto the current endings. Ideally, I would like to see a complete re-write starting somewhere around harbinger's appearance, one that removed the space magic and moon-sized plot-holes.

An explanation would feel like Bioware saying to us, "I know you just couldn't keep up with us, so we're going to explain it... very.... slowly..." Honestly, I've gone over and over the endings, I've done research, talked to people, and just in general done everything I could to make sense of them. With the game's lore as-is, it can't be done. Not in any logical fashion. There are simply too many inconsistencies. To me, an explanation would just be adding insult to injury.

I've heard several people calling for an expansion pack that gives us the ending(s) we were promised. I whole-heartedly support this notion. I would gladly pay for a $30 expansion pack that saved Mass Effect.