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[Hurbster]

I would not mind so much if we had not already done the Dark Age thing in Deus Ex.

Modifié par Hurbster, 23 mars 2012 - 08:02 .

[Cyph3rX]

Just wondering when will the Age of Strife start and when will the God-Emperor arrive to unite mankind against the xenos.

Modifié par Cyph3rX, 23 mars 2012 - 08:02 .

[Chuvvy]

dversion wrote...

Well I figured that those relays had to be destroyed. The time of following the previous generation's technology was over and it'll take centuries but the galaxy will rebuild its self in a new image. Plus Earth is now some weird metropolitan planet of a diverse set of species all over the galaxy. I bet that will have some impact.

Apparently the "stargazer" scene takes place 10,000 years after ME3. There was a thread about it floating around earlier.

[Erield]

Kashola wrote...

I don't think it is worth it, if it means the rest of the Mass Effect series will be prequels like some have been suggesting. One of the big things i loved about the ME universe was the galactic community and the politics involved.

[cutegigi]

rma2110 wrote...

So it will become Fallout Effect 4? A post apocalyptic setting just wouldn't feel like Mass Effect.

no. it will be Dragon age effect 3

[dversion]

Slidell505 wrote...

dversion wrote...

Well I figured that those relays had to be destroyed. The time of following the previous generation's technology was over and it'll take centuries but the galaxy will rebuild its self in a new image. Plus Earth is now some weird metropolitan planet of a diverse set of species all over the galaxy. I bet that will have some impact.

Apparently the "stargazer" scene takes place 10,000 years after ME3. There was a thread about it floating around earlier.

Don't see what that has to do with anything but alright.

[Madecologist]

Cyph3rX wrote...

Just wondering when will the Age of Strife start and when will the God-Emperor arrive to unite mankind against the xenos.

Several dead Reapers (one of which is on Mars actually) will create a new army of 'husks'. They shall be called Necrons.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

The only way to accept it is to take the renegade view, that it is irrelevant that the races you helped did not achieve long term prosperity from your assistance, but rather gave their support for the brief time required and that is all that was needed.

[SaladinDheonqar]

Even though the price was high, I think JC Denton made the right choice when he... oh wait.

[YellowFury]

i'm surprised no one said this....

great reward, but the priceeeeeeeeeeee

[Asuka Bianchini]

sepir wrote...

Assuming the cinematic is true, and the destruction of the relays is not catastrophic (taking out the entire system they are in), I give it 300-1000 years before races are making their own relays.

Regarding the races trapped on earth:
- Turians and Quarians: with help from the Geth the convert a lot of their ships into live ships to support their different food requirements (a lot would die, but emergency rationing means not all will).
- Asari: able to mate with every species, able to replenish their population quite quickly.
- Krogan: No females went to Earth (still too precious). Under the leadership of Wrex violent tendencies although common aren't too severe. They know they can't afford to lose any more of themselves as they need to get back to the females (and with their life spans they know it is possible)
- Humans: It's their planet, so not exactly difficult. Millions more die until infrastructure is rebuilt, but help from Krogan and Geth minimise deaths.

Or they all start fighting each other until populations aren't sustainable, and this cycle is the last one with an advanced civilisation extermination event. The only reason the people on the planet at the end of know of Shepard is because this time the Reapers couldn't wipe out evidence of what happened.

Won't happen.
The stargazer scene is 10,000 years after ME3's ending, and the stargazer says space travel is not possible still...

[Devils-DIVISION]

2 words, 7 syllables - Indoctrination Theory!

[111987]

Asuka Bianchini wrote...

sepir wrote...

Assuming the cinematic is true, and the destruction of the relays is not catastrophic (taking out the entire system they are in), I give it 300-1000 years before races are making their own relays.

Regarding the races trapped on earth:
- Turians and Quarians: with help from the Geth the convert a lot of their ships into live ships to support their different food requirements (a lot would die, but emergency rationing means not all will).
- Asari: able to mate with every species, able to replenish their population quite quickly.
- Krogan: No females went to Earth (still too precious). Under the leadership of Wrex violent tendencies although common aren't too severe. They know they can't afford to lose any more of themselves as they need to get back to the females (and with their life spans they know it is possible)
- Humans: It's their planet, so not exactly difficult. Millions more die until infrastructure is rebuilt, but help from Krogan and Geth minimise deaths.

Or they all start fighting each other until populations aren't sustainable, and this cycle is the last one with an advanced civilisation extermination event. The only reason the people on the planet at the end of know of Shepard is because this time the Reapers couldn't wipe out evidence of what happened.

Won't happen.
The stargazer scene is 10,000 years after ME3's ending, and the stargazer says space travel is not possible still...

No he doesn't.

Child: "When can I go to the stars?"

Stargazer: "One day, my sweet."

Also, the races still have space travel. Just not the instantaneous travel of the Mass Relays, which makes travel beyond a system or two unfeasible.

[Kmead15]

Asuka Bianchini wrote...

Won't happen.
The stargazer scene is 10,000 years after ME3's ending, and the stargazer says space travel is not possible still...

Actually, he says that the kid can go to the stars "one day." That doesn't actually indicate anything about the state of space travel in the future, except that the kid won't be using it on that particular day.

Modifié par Kmead15, 23 mars 2012 - 08:22 .

[Asuka Bianchini]

111987 wrote...

Asuka Bianchini wrote...

sepir wrote...

Assuming the cinematic is true, and the destruction of the relays is not catastrophic (taking out the entire system they are in), I give it 300-1000 years before races are making their own relays.

Regarding the races trapped on earth:
- Turians and Quarians: with help from the Geth the convert a lot of their ships into live ships to support their different food requirements (a lot would die, but emergency rationing means not all will).
- Asari: able to mate with every species, able to replenish their population quite quickly.
- Krogan: No females went to Earth (still too precious). Under the leadership of Wrex violent tendencies although common aren't too severe. They know they can't afford to lose any more of themselves as they need to get back to the females (and with their life spans they know it is possible)
- Humans: It's their planet, so not exactly difficult. Millions more die until infrastructure is rebuilt, but help from Krogan and Geth minimise deaths.

Or they all start fighting each other until populations aren't sustainable, and this cycle is the last one with an advanced civilisation extermination event. The only reason the people on the planet at the end of know of Shepard is because this time the Reapers couldn't wipe out evidence of what happened.

Won't happen.
The stargazer scene is 10,000 years after ME3's ending, and the stargazer says space travel is not possible still...

No he doesn't.

Child: "When can I go to the stars?"

Stargazer: "One day, my sweet."

Also, the races still have space travel. Just not the instantaneous travel of the Mass Relays, which makes travel beyond a system or two unfeasible.

''anything you could imagine... our galaxy has billions of stars, each of those stars, COULD have many worlds''
-> he supposes... he is telling a story... I think they'd know better if there was space travel still...

[111987]

Asuka Bianchini wrote...

''anything you could imagine... our galaxy has billions of stars, each of those stars, COULD have many worlds''
-> he supposes... he is telling a story... I think they'd know better if there was space travel still...

Um, no. Even before the Relays were destroyed, the current organic species had explored less than 1% of the galaxy.

And like I said, no Mass Relays doesn't mean there isn't space travel.

Modifié par 111987, 23 mars 2012 - 08:26 .

[HeroicHare]

The galactic dark age could be a possibility but i kinda want the paragon ending to be there aswell (ofcourse it should be much harder to obtain). condemning billions to death along with almost the whole quarian race seems abit too hefty price to pay

[Madecologist]

Asuka Bianchini wrote...

[Won't happen.
The stargazer scene is 10,000 years after ME3's ending, and the stargazer says space travel is not possible still...

The Stargazer scenes happens on the same planet that Joker crashed on... right? So then... you do know that the crew of the Normandy does not constitute a proper MVP for humans. So technically speaking... the 'colony' the survivors of the Normandy will create will die off and in 10K years you will just have remains of a failed human society.

((MVP, Minimal viable population, term used to represent how many creatures you need in a population so that it becomes viable and will survive 'indefinately'.))

Yes I know it's science fiction and they will get liberal with real science (we did have Mass Effect technology), but from a game that went out of its way to address the question of levo and dextro amino acid base lifeforms, does seem like an oversight to claim the survivors of the Normandy will be able to pull of an Adam and Eve stunt on a random world.

[Tregon]

I recall him stating that each one might have different species. If there wasn't massive loss of contact and travel, he would know that there are civilizations spanning multiple planets, meaning they do not have each their own species.

But then again, when was last time you were absolutely factual when speaking to small kid?

[Esquin]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

The only way to accept it is to take the renegade view, that it is irrelevant that the races you helped did not achieve long term prosperity from your assistance, but rather gave their support for the brief time required and that is all that was needed.

I really don't think you can break down the ending into paragon of renegade.

Stupid and less stupid sure. But I don't think there is a renegade or paragon option. When you're dealing with the kinds of decisions we were always going to get, (I mean stuff we didn't get but should have) it really doesn't matter where it fits on the scale.

Personally, I see wiping out all galactic civilisation a fair trade for giving the next cycle a real chance.

But at the same time if I thought our war assets could win on their own, i'd be willing to take that chance and pull a prothean on them. Setting up the next cycle to kick the reapers really hard right in the junk.

[Kmead15]

Asuka Bianchini wrote...

''anything you could imagine... our galaxy has billions of stars, each of those stars, COULD have many worlds''
-> he supposes... he is telling a story... I think they'd know better if there was space travel still...

Or he's supposing that there's the potential for the kid to find almost anything once he gets out there. We'd barely started exploring even before we blew all the relays to hell. I think the codex says something like only 2-3% of the galaxy was mapped out? That scene could have been left in even if there'd been an ending without a galactic dark age.

Modifié par Kmead15, 23 mars 2012 - 08:30 .

[Leonia]

Is breaking the cycle worth it even if the short-term consequences will hinder the current galactic civilisation? Maybe, but it's hard to know if the mistakes of the past won't be repeated. What if new Reapers are created in the future? What if organics and synthetics got along this time? It's so open to speculation (lol) but I think it's the only way you can ensure that "life will go on by its own terms".

In a lot of ways, it reminds me of the ending of Xenosaga 3 except the entire universe isn't now slowly dieing out forever.

[AxisEvolve]

I'm fine with the dark age. A high price can, and should be payed for stopping the Reapers.  But I don't think we paid a high price.  The Protheans were more advanced than us and their war raged for centuries. How long did our cycle's last? A year? Come on... they could have made several more games out of the Reapers. What this is about is sacrificing storytelling just to conclude a trilogy. It could have been something much greater.. but again, TRILOGY. 

Modifié par AxisEvolve, 23 mars 2012 - 08:33 .

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Esquin wrote...

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

The only way to accept it is to take the renegade view, that it is irrelevant that the races you helped did not achieve long term prosperity from your assistance, but rather gave their support for the brief time required and that is all that was needed.

I really don't think you can break down the ending into paragon of renegade.

Stupid and less stupid sure. But I don't think there is a renegade or paragon option. When you're dealing with the kinds of decisions we were always going to get, (I mean stuff we didn't get but should have) it really doesn't matter where it fits on the scale.

Personally, I see wiping out all galactic civilisation a fair trade for giving the next cycle a real chance.

But at the same time if I thought our war assets could win on their own, i'd be willing to take that chance and pull a prothean on them. Setting up the next cycle to kick the reapers really hard right in the junk.

I know, I meant that looking at it that way was a renagade view, but obviously the endings are mostly greyer then the moon.

[Patchwork]

sepir wrote...


Won't happen.
The stargazer scene is 10,000 years after ME3's ending, and the stargazer says space travel is not possible still...

Which is just another reason to hate that cut scene, it makes no sense that space travel isn't possible. Yeah FLT is much slower and what took hours would take months or years but given the state of the galaxy trade would be essential.

Personally I'm assuming that Stargazer's planet is some backwater, too far out and lacking in the resources that would have made travelling to it worthwhile.