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[Jamie9]

I keep seeing posts that ridicule Retake because they are demanding their money back. I've thus far only seen two people say they were going to do so. Two.

Am I missing lots of posts or are people generalizing again?

[HenchxNarf]

alex13abc wrote...

Still no proof ? Is this true or just wild accusations ? Retake raised more than 70000$. If anybody is asking for their donation back it's a few heartless people. But then again, still waiting for proof OP.

Proof is right here:
http://penny-arcade....ake-mass-effect

[mpgeist]

Look you don't know if people deliberately sabotaged the charity stuff or not. The fact is many people gave knowing that they'll get nothing in return and simply hoped to make a negative into a positive for one. Stan Woo even praised the effort and we all know what a rare thing that is.

[Asnine112]

Shouldn't we really be feeling sorry for people who can't read?

I mean, I think what we REALLY should be discussing is the deteriorating state of education in most Western countries

[Kulthar Drax]

That's the problem with rumour and hearsay, it can often be more destructive than the actual truth. Who was it who said "A lie can run around the world before the truth has even got its boots on".

In any case, maybe it was just ONE person, maybe it was a plant or a rumour started solely for a smear campaign, maybe it was more than one person, maybe they really did think that they were donating for an ending. There's a lot of maybes involved and not a lot of fact.

[txmn1016]

Tirranek wrote...

FitScotGaymer wrote...

@Tirranek

You have never heard of channeling anger and frustration into a positive outlet? Thats what the charity drive was about, and honestly I think you are just making excuses for not donating.

Steady now. I don't need a reason to not give to a charity. Prior to all this I hadn't actually heard of Child's Play, and I certainly wasn't going to make an initial donation because I wanted to express my opinion concerning the ending of a videogame.

When I give to charities or collections, it's because I admire and support the aims of the organisation, that's it, and in my opinion that's all it should ever be.

Totally get where you're coming from and respect it.  The thing is though, the average person isn't going to freely donate without cause.  People were willing to donate to CP in this instance because they were brought together by a cause.  I'm not saying it's right, but that's where we are.  I'm not going to blame the cause for inspiring a community to donate 80K of their funds.  But like I said, I completely understand where you're coming from.  People shouldn't need alterior motives to donate  their time and money, but most usually do need that.

[Dridengx]

Look at their signature



Do you see anything odd? bragging numbers, bragging time frame, slogan of retaking Mass Effect 3 but where is the act of giving? the children? the cause is the ending of the game changed not the children needing the money

You might say, oh, you made that up etc etc but Quietness, one of the biggest speakers for RME is using this sig as I type this social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9845819/265#10510348   see for yourself.


all of you who gave out of your hearts are just worth the amount of money you gave to them. you were used for attention nothing more.

Modifié par Dridengx, 23 mars 2012 - 01:48 .

[txmn1016]

Kulthar Drax wrote...

That's the problem with rumour and hearsay, it can often be more destructive than the actual truth. Who was it who said "A lie can run around the world before the truth has even got its boots on".

In any case, maybe it was just ONE person, maybe it was a plant or a rumour started solely for a smear campaign, maybe it was more than one person, maybe they really did think that they were donating for an ending. There's a lot of maybes involved and not a lot of fact.

Ah, well, unfortunately PA made a pretty damning statement: "We’ve also been contacted by PayPal due to a high number of people asking for their donations back."  And if it's true, I am just monumentally disapointed. 


http://penny-arcade....ake-mass-effect

[Foxhound2121]

HenchxNarf wrote...

alex13abc wrote...

Still no proof ? Is this true or just wild accusations ? Retake raised more than 70000$. If anybody is asking for their donation back it's a few heartless people. But then again, still waiting for proof OP.

Proof is right here:
http://penny-arcade....ake-mass-effect

Proof of what precisely?

[babelcarlota]

Tazzmission wrote...

VAIOMANIAC wrote...

How can possibly not know that this was meant for charity that was excatly the point, not giving money to Bioware to pay for an ending.  

You people who are demanding money back should be ashamed of yourself, have you no sense of decensy or sense of honor ??

This does not reflect the retake movement and I hope people agree with me on this,

I also encourage people too donate anyway because it`s a good case.

i agree op. i already broke this situation to a few other sites

im speaking not as a mass effect fan or a gamer but as a human being

i think the people who decided this was such a good idea for there own selfish gain should be very ashamed


and apprently they didnt read the policy of childs play since they state and i quote

Child’s Play cannot be a tool to draw attention to a cause.  Child’s Play must be the Cause.[/b]


seeing as selfishness blinded them heres the link


http://penny-arcade....ake-mass-effect

He doesn't work for Child's Play nor does he have evidence to support his claim. It can be a reuse.

[nevar00]

Dridengx wrote...

Look at their signature



Do you see anything odd? bragging numbers, bragging time frame, slogan of retaking Mass Effect 3 but where is the act of giving? the children? the cause is the ending of the game changed not the children needing the money

You might say, oh, you made that up etc etc but Quietness, one of the biggest speakers for RME is using this sig as I type this social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9845819/265#10510348   see for yourself.

Who gives a **** about what the cause is, the fact is a lot of money was raised for kids and was still going to be raised by kids until CP shut it down.  

Do you REALLY think organizations and businesses that raise money aren't doing it for their own agendas?  Please.  Those who asked for refunds are idiots, I agree, as are those who complained to CP in the first place.  And as is CP for closing down a profitable charity drive for a bs reason.  

[txmn1016]

Dridengx wrote...

Look at their signature



Do you see anything odd? bragging numbers, bragging time frame, slogan of retaking Mass Effect 3 but where is the act of giving? the children? the cause is the ending of the game changed not the children needing the money

You might say, oh, you made that up etc etc but Quietness, one of the biggest speakers for RME is using this sig as I type this social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9845819/265#10510348   see for yourself.


all of you who gave out of your hearts are just worth the amount of money you gave to them. you were used for attention nothing more.

As someone who uses a similar sig, I'm proud to have been part of a community that raised that much for charity.  I don't see the issue.

[Bullseye_Sally]

VAIOMANIAC wrote...

How can possibly not know that this was meant for charity that was excatly the point, not giving money to Bioware to pay for an ending.  

You people who are demanding money back should be ashamed of yourself, have you no sense of decensy or sense of honor ??

This does not reflect the retake movement and I hope people agree with me on this,

I also encourage people too donate anyway because it`s a good case.

UPDATE link to statement by Penny Arcade: penny-arcade.com/2012/03/21/childs-play-and-retake-mass-effect

UPDATE 2 : I`m out consider me longer a part of the movement 

This is just pathetic.  I'm glad I left the movement a couple days ago after reading all the crap in the PR thread. 

[The Night Mammoth]

Dridengx wrote...

Look at their signature



Do you see anything odd? bragging numbers, bragging time frame, slogan of retaking Mass Effect 3 but where is the act of giving? the children? the cause is the ending of the game changed not the children needing the money

You might say, oh, you made that up etc etc but Quietness, one of the biggest speakers for RME is using this sig as I type this social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9845819/265#10510348   see for yourself.


all of you who gave out of your hearts are just worth the amount of money you gave to them. you were used for attention nothing more.

Who. The Hell. Cares.

This is how most charities work. This is how most donations work. This is not an isolated or even remarkable example. 

[txmn1016]

babelcarlota wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

VAIOMANIAC wrote...

How can possibly not know that this was meant for charity that was excatly the point, not giving money to Bioware to pay for an ending.  

You people who are demanding money back should be ashamed of yourself, have you no sense of decensy or sense of honor ??

This does not reflect the retake movement and I hope people agree with me on this,

I also encourage people too donate anyway because it`s a good case.

i agree op. i already broke this situation to a few other sites

im speaking not as a mass effect fan or a gamer but as a human being

i think the people who decided this was such a good idea for there own selfish gain should be very ashamed


and apprently they didnt read the policy of childs play since they state and i quote

Child’s Play cannot be a tool to draw attention to a cause.  Child’s Play must be the Cause.[/b]


seeing as selfishness blinded them heres the link


http://penny-arcade....ake-mass-effect

He doesn't work for Child's Play nor does he have evidence to support his claim. It can be a reuse.

If you had read the statement, that amendment was added AFTER this whole thing.

[HenchxNarf]

babelcarlota wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

VAIOMANIAC wrote...

How can possibly not know that this was meant for charity that was excatly the point, not giving money to Bioware to pay for an ending.  

You people who are demanding money back should be ashamed of yourself, have you no sense of decensy or sense of honor ??

This does not reflect the retake movement and I hope people agree with me on this,

I also encourage people too donate anyway because it`s a good case.

i agree op. i already broke this situation to a few other sites

im speaking not as a mass effect fan or a gamer but as a human being

i think the people who decided this was such a good idea for there own selfish gain should be very ashamed


and apprently they didnt read the policy of childs play since they state and i quote

Child’s Play cannot be a tool to draw attention to a cause.  Child’s Play must be the Cause.[/b]


seeing as selfishness blinded them heres the link


http://penny-arcade....ake-mass-effect

He doesn't work for Child's Play nor does he have evidence to support his claim. It can be a reuse.

Oh sweet...He is the co-founder of Child's Play for goodness sake.

[jdgjordan]

HenchxNarf wrote...

jdgjordan wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

jdgjordan wrote...

dude no one is demanding there money back don't make an issue that is not there you just want to see people arguee and to the people that are believing him........ wow your idiots

When the founder of Child's Play states that there have been refund requests.. Who else are you supposed to believe?

link please other wise dont try and make fake evidence.

http://penny-arcade....ake-mass-effect

It's from the co-founder of Child's Play. Proof enough?

I still think the person who wrote this was just getting emails saying people were refunding and realy refunding. But if it is true and people are that greedy then wow there going to hell:devil: and I will gladly eat my words and say I was rong then get a tomato thrown at me. Coming from a person who put  $10,000 to the Child Play I was well aware this might not do any thing as it was in no way connected to biowar or any thing they do. It was just a nice thing to do for kids who need the money. I still cant belive any one would be that greedy or evil but if they are wow just wow.

[TransientNomad]

Disgusting. Of all the ignorant....

[golyoscsapagy]

Dridengx wrote...

Look at their signature



Do you see anything odd? bragging numbers, bragging time frame, slogan of retaking Mass Effect 3 but where is the act of giving? the children? the cause is the ending of the game changed not the children needing the money

You might say, oh, you made that up etc etc but Quietness, one of the biggest speakers for RME is using this sig as I type this social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9845819/265#10510348   see for yourself.


all of you who gave out of your hearts are just worth the amount of money you gave to them. you were used for attention nothing more.

Um, you know, if you just check the name 'Retake'. ME is not theirs neither legally nor morally. You can't retake something that's not yours.

So no, I find it unsuprising that he is proud of raising 80k in the name of retaking mass effect instead of raising 80k in the name of sick kids or whatever. Which should be the slogan if the whole 'we did it to channel the anger' were true.

Modifié par golyoscsapagy, 23 mars 2012 - 01:57 .

[SavageLycan]

I just... Seriously? I can't even make a coherent sentence. I am literally speechless.

[alex13abc]

Kulthar Drax wrote...

That's the problem with rumour and hearsay, it can often be more destructive than the actual truth. Who was it who said "A lie can run around the world before the truth has even got its boots on".

In any case, maybe it was just ONE person, maybe it was a plant or a rumour started solely for a smear campaign, maybe it was more than one person, maybe they really did think that they were donating for an ending. There's a lot of maybes involved and not a lot of fact.

This. No numbers, no actual proof. Just generalizing accusations so far.

[Quietness]

Can we please stop quoting the lazy done post by that gentlemen that is quoting my sig which is hosted from my premium account or else i will report for harassment as it will use up my money.

[txmn1016]

@goly

...it was a play on their "Take Back Earth" slogan...

[HenchxNarf]

nevar00 wrote...

Who gives a **** about what the cause is, the fact is a lot of money was raised for kids and was still going to be raised by kids until CP shut it down.  

Do you REALLY think organizations and businesses that raise money aren't doing it for their own agendas?  Please.  Those who asked for refunds are idiots, I agree, as are those who complained to CP in the first place.  And as is CP for closing down a profitable charity drive for a bs reason.  

You know.. you just contradicted everything the movement said about the charity. "Its for the kids!"

[sergeym1990]

I dont think this deserves a whole 20 pages threat. So there are some people who have no idea how charity works. No big deal imo. I'm sure 99% percent of people who donated will not be doing doing this.

Modifié par sergeym1990, 23 mars 2012 - 02:01 .