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[Shadedclan]

I also agree. I mean come on? Their eyes glow. And we get a picture of a human that does not have glowing eyes?

[Lunarwhirlwind]

Luc0s wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

Quarians are aliens, so they should look like aliens. This isn't star trek.

Finally, a human who understands! 

Unfortunately, looking at the face place holder model, she was at least going to be reasonably humanoid.
People should be happy that she was dicernably female at all.


A lot of people have voiced “but the krogan female was just a male model in a different outfit!” and same for the salarians.
They probably should have made some subtle differences, yes, but lets face it, the human brain has areas meant for recognizing features and picking out sexual characteristics in other humans. Can you tell a male and female cat apart on a glance?
I didn’t think so!
There are differences there, but they’re subtle to US.
We even get this in situation where there is a strong cultural genetic basis.
Even though it seems insulting to say that certain people all look the same when it is decidedly not true, it is not always an insult. Sometimes it is just the fact that to our brain… they kind of do.
I imagine when dealing with aliens telling female from male wouldnt always be that obvious unless one evolved to be flashy and the other not.

As I've mentioned previously, Femshep, love interest wise in 2 has one human male, one human female, a Drell, and a TURIAN. Male shep has a 3 human females, and an asari.

That about says it all far as I'm concerned.

[JesseLee202]

Luc0s wrote...

JesseLee202 wrote...

To all the people saying "Too human", have you ever seen an Asari before? Guess not.

The difference is that the Asari don't have hair and ears and they're mono-gendered (only females), which still makes them somewhat different from humans.


That fanart with the human in the enviro-suit is just bad. The art isn't bad, but the design is bad. It's just a little human girl in an enviro-suit with some circuit-wires on her forehead.


And like I said before, ONE human-like alien race in Mass Effect is already bad enough. We don't need TWO human-like alien races. That would make the Mass Effect universe even worse than it already is.

I was talking about how they look... And I guess the ME universe is worse for you because the picture in game is cannon, whether we like it or not. (I do not approve on how they got the picture)

[comrade gando]

It's like, Ok: we got turians look like dinosaur/bird people, krogan look like frogs, salarians look like...I dunno, asari look like humans (ok we can get away with one), drell look scaly, quarians look like ______. They have 3 fingers, 3 toes and their legs bend backwards for pete's sake. Should be unique and creative like all the other species. My opinion of course.

Modifié par comrade gando, 23 mars 2012 - 02:07 .

[Titan_HQ]

Luc0s wrote...

Titan_HQ wrote...

Still, intelligent design by either a previous cycle or the Reapers themselves can be used to avoid questions on biology.

Wait, you're willing to apply "intelligent design" to a video-game? That pseudo-scientific "theory" is already a blight on the scientific community in real-life, we don't need that crap in-game, unless the creators of the game decided to put it in the game.

But really, the idea that the reapers "intelligently designed" the quarians (or all life in the current cycle) is completely dumb and doesn't make sense at all. That idea is even worse than the space-magic we already have in the current horrible endings. 

I'm not saying I am a subscriber to the theory, quite the oppisite in fact. I would well and truely put in the "sci-fi" category, and that is why it can be used in a sci-fi game.

Actually it makes complete sense. The Reapers need (or needed, up until ME3 where they buttsects the plot) a race with enough genetic diversity to create a super-Reaper to stop the spread of dark energy. This race turned out to be humanity. Now it is quite reasonable to suggest they planeted genetically modified organisms, programmed to develop in a specific way, on different worlds and then sat back and waited for the results. It could be that this is in fact part of the cycle, which would explain the constant similarities between most species.

Of course some of these species would say "kthxbai" to the modification and do what they want anyway (read Krogan) and some life will always develop of it's own accord (read Hanar) but the majority, even the Protheans fit that category of "way too similar to be a conincidence".


And that is why Tali looks almost human.

Edit: I suck.

Modifié par Titan_HQ, 23 mars 2012 - 02:16 .

[Coolfaec]

MY EYES! THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!!

[Titan_HQ]

Spaz-post was here.

Modifié par Titan_HQ, 23 mars 2012 - 02:12 .

[Titan_HQ]

Luc0s wrote...

Titan_HQ wrote...

Luc0s wrote...... Heck, There is even a website about how to write realistic sci-fi, incluidng realistic aliens, but I totally forgot the link.

Maybe someone can help me on this? The url had "rocket" in it, that's all I remember.

...

http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/ - Atomic rockets FTW!

YES! THANK YOU! You are my hero! 

It's the site, but I can't find the page on it that has all the space-realism documents. :/

[RLesueur]

lol, this thread just proves that Bioware could not win with Tali's face.

Anyhow, it's established in the lore that Quarians are quite human like, the only disappointment for me is they didn't render her face in game. The photoshopped image isn't even done very well.

[cobnut]

Star Trek:

Despite the vast distances separating their homeworlds, many humanoid species have been found to share a remarkable commonality in form and genetic coding. These similarities were believed to be evidence of a common ancestry, an ancient humanoid species, who lived in our galaxy's distant past some four billion years ago.

http://en.memory-alp...g/wiki/Humanoid

Fits perfect for Mass Effect, I guess.

[Fuzrum77]

Yep this is my favorite of the ones I've seen. It's the least "human" looking, but still attractive in a weird, exotic way.

[Mnementh2230]

I have to agree - Tali's face was phoned in (as was her hand - WTF is that crap?)... faxed in, more like. It's terrible. The art in here is leaps and bounds better than what's in the game.

[howieloader]

Good lord that first picture is frightening...

cobnut wrote...

Star Trek:

Despite the vast distances separating their homeworlds, many humanoid species have been found to share a remarkable commonality in form and genetic coding. These similarities were believed to be evidence of a common ancestry, an ancient humanoid species, who lived in our galaxy's distant past some four billion years ago.

http://en.memory-alp...g/wiki/Humanoid

Fits perfect for Mass Effect, I guess.

That was a great episode where they explained that. The woman in that episode was the same woman that played the Founder Leader, and her make up looked exactly like the Founder Leader but that was never expounded on more in DS9 like I would've liked...

[cobnut]

Luc0s wrote...

cobnut wrote...

Star Trek:

Despite the vast distances separating their homeworlds, many humanoid species have been found to share a remarkable commonality in form and genetic coding. These similarities were believed to be evidence of a common ancestry, an ancient humanoid species, who lived in our galaxy's distant past some four billion years ago.

http://en.memory-alp...g/wiki/Humanoid

Fits perfect for Mass Effect, I guess.

Except that Mass Effect tries to stay realistic in some fashion. We know how humans evolved and we know that we're not some offspring from distant humanoid aliens.

"To preserve their heritage, this species apparently seeded the primordial oceans of many potentially hospitable planets with encoded DNA fragments. The genetic information incorporated into the earliest lifeforms on those planets and through pre-programmed mutations caused by a genetic template, directed evolution toward a physical development similar to their own. Because of this controlled mutation mechanism, most habitable planets in the galaxy evolved with many physically similar species (for example fish, trees, dogs, insects), and on many of those worlds with at least one sentient species with a humanoid configuration. Most of these humanoids are eveninterfertile with each other."

It's very far-fetched, but at least an explanation.

Idon't need one though. It is unlikely but not impossible that one anatomy is superior and comes out on top in most cases. I like the Mass Effect universe as it is (or was before the ending destroyed everything).

Modifié par cobnut, 23 mars 2012 - 02:35 .

[moteh]

*looks at OP*

looks like an alien wearing someone elses face for a mask

I was honestly fine with what we got in the end (errors with the hand aside).  Would I have liked to see soeone a bit more alien, possibly, but what we got is what we got and it's a very minor detail in the grand scheme of things.  Though hopefully Bioware can fix the hand in the cannon pic at least (or redo the cutscene on Rannoch, at least give us a 5/8th glimpse of her face ingame)

[Baihu1983]

gimzod76 wrote...

it a nice picture but it looks like here face could fall off. this is what i see Tali as

Shes too Human in that one

[deathscythe517]

I actually have a preferred image but it's too cartoonish for most, however it does the quarians in a way I believe they'd look, including the cybernetics that they all have.

[Bedevil123]

ManznPain wrote...


 

whew! i just busted out laughing