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[JenMaxon]

That's a real shame.

[N172]

Well, thats just... spineless

[taelus.calimshan]

With almost $80,000 raised it's hard to say how many people donated. So, to that end, it's hard to say what "a large number of people" constitutes. Tycho himself (Jerry Holkins) said in the same article that he's in support of the Retake movement, so whatever number that is it can't be significant enough to merit a change in his opinion of the group as a whole, just some individuals. Anyway, he didn't seem as concerned with the request for refunds as with the possible misuse of the charity. Let's not turn this into a hate war against the Retake folks please.

[Mutineer81]

I donated some money and I was never under the impression I was adding to a fund to create a new ending. Honestly, you need to be less than a halfwit not to realize that. What are we going to hand BioWare a check and say, "Here, fix it!" I weep for our species, maybe the reapers really should wipe us out.

[shinyelf]

This is really sucky, I never supported the movement, but i thought "ok, it seems they are doing good, giving to charity and such, and a new/modified ending wouldn't hurt me so I guess it's cool" now I think each and every one who demand money back should be violated by dickwolves.

[Pcmag1]

kbct wrote...

What percentage of the money are we talking about here? 2%? 10%? 50%?

Unluckily it doesnt matter, we have no chance of defending ourselves and media will paint the Retake movement in very negative way. I am affraid, that someone started counter offensive. And we besically have no chance of defending ourselves.

[Robhuzz]

I'm not sure how much faith to put in this article.

I don't see any evidence supporting his claim. There's a good chance this is just a disgusting smear job to make the Retake movement look bad because a few people decided to ask their donations back.

[SynheKatze]

What a bunch of losers.

[Moonshadow_Dark]

kbct wrote...

What percentage of the money are we talking about here? 2%? 10%? 50%?

I'm going to say 99%, because if I say a lower number, the reality will just be harsher. By placing a higher number and it turns out to be lower, then it's not so bad!

Positivity!

[kbct]

taelus.calimshan wrote...

With almost $80,000 raised it's hard to say how many people donated. So, to that end, it's hard to say what "a large number of people" constitutes. Tycho himself (Jerry Holkins) said in the same article that he's in support of the Retake movement, so whatever number that is it can't be significant enough to merit a change in his opinion of the group as a whole, just some individuals. Anyway, he didn't seem as concerned with the request for refunds as with the possible misuse of the charity. Let's not turn this into a hate war against the Retake folks please.

Exactly.

[taelus.calimshan]

Pcmag1 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

As much this is very likely to be very true since lot of people are selfish idiots, I still have feeling that this is fake news just to give this movement really bad name.

Another poster posted a better reply, disregard this.

Well, not to conspire much, but Penny Arcade called Retake movement whiners and the drive have just been stopped ....so .... the timing is actually quite suspicious

Actually, in the very same post, one of the founders of Penny Arcade (and thus Child's Play) says clearly that he's in support of the Retake movement.  Not *was* in support, but that he *is* in support.

As a part of that movement, I think anyone pulling their money back (or trying to) deserve to be lambasted and painted as terrible people.  I don't think that means the movement deserves it.  Much like I think the ending of the game deserves to be lambasted, but not the game as a whole, which is marvelous.

[Moonshadow_Dark]

Pcmag1 wrote...

kbct wrote...

What percentage of the money are we talking about here? 2%? 10%? 50%?

Unluckily it doesnt matter, we have no chance of defending ourselves and media will paint the Retake movement in very negative way. I am affraid, that someone started counter offensive. And we besically have no chance of defending ourselves.

Eh, does it really matter, anymore? You got the endings. The movement is over. Plus: The real RME supporters can still donate and not look like total knobs.

[kbct]

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

kbct wrote...

What percentage of the money are we talking about here? 2%? 10%? 50%?

I'm going to say 99%, because if I say a lower number, the reality will just be harsher. By placing a higher number and it turns out to be lower, then it's not so bad!

Positivity!

HAHA!

[Srau]

Great way to tell Bioware/EA and every editor out there "take my money !! I want to pay DLCs that add an end to my already paid games"

[The Razman]

Robhuzz wrote...

I'm not sure how much faith to put in this article.

I don't see any evidence supporting his claim. There's a good chance this is just a disgusting smear job to make the Retake movement look bad because a few people decided to ask their donations back.

Again ... why would he try and smear a campaign that's raising money for his own charity?

[Geoman3]

FatalX7.0 wrote...
The people backing out didn't bother to check that the real cause was Child's Play.

They thought they were paying directly for a new ending and nothing else.

In every group you'll find silly* people doing silly* things. That's inevitable. Though you obviously cannot ignore them, they do not deserve that much attention.

And I believe that the officials at Bioware are aware of this fact.

Fact is that the Retake Movement achieved some of theit goals, i. e. getting positive attention from Bioware and caused them to issue statements and perhaps consider taking action on the problem.

Most important, we raised 80k $ for charity!

*mild terms, not to risk interefering with the forum rules

[shinyelf]

Robhuzz wrote...

I'm not sure how much faith to put in this article.

I don't see any evidence supporting his claim. There's a good chance this is just a disgusting smear job to make the Retake movement look bad because a few people decided to ask their donations back.

Seriously?  Don't you think that it is infact possible that some people are just dicks? 
By the way Tycho is usually honest with his readers (albeit a bit offensive every now and again)

[M.D]

Hahahahahh oh wow

[GhostV9]

*sighs*

How much is going to the charity now?

[fealhach]

I'm waiting for the counter smear that reveals that some gamers that liked the ending cheated on their girlfriends or had a bad day at work and threw an empty beer can at their dog.

Modifié par fealhach, 23 mars 2012 - 12:52 .

[kbct]

Pcmag1 wrote...

kbct wrote...

What percentage of the money are we talking about here? 2%? 10%? 50%?

Unluckily it doesnt matter, we have no chance of defending ourselves and media will paint the Retake movement in very negative way. I am affraid, that someone started counter offensive. And we besically have no chance of defending ourselves.

If they raised $80K and end up donating $75K to kids in hospitals. That's okay in my book. You can't taint that.

[TheProfessor234]

Well, as said before, this is depressing. Hopefully we can get a percent, hope it's low. Then we don't have to feel terrible later.

[Robhuzz]

shinyelf wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

I'm not sure how much faith to put in this article.

I don't see any evidence supporting his claim. There's a good chance this is just a disgusting smear job to make the Retake movement look bad because a few people decided to ask their donations back.

Seriously?  Don't you think that it is infact possible that some people are just dicks? 
By the way Tycho is usually honest with his readers (albeit a bit offensive every now and again)

I never dismissed the entire claim. I acknowledged there were people asking for their donations back and I realize all to well there are plenty of people I'd refer to as 'dicks' in the world. The point is that just because a few people who were in the retake movement want their money back, the same cannot be said for everyone.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 23 mars 2012 - 12:53 .

[The Razman]

Geoman3 wrote...

In every group you'll find silly* people doing silly* things. That's inevitable. Though you obviously cannot ignore them, they do not deserve that much attention.

I agree, but I think it also deserves attention that the Retake movement doesn't seem to be addressing this. The main post on the front of their campaign page on Facebook is only talking about "the unfortunate end of the Child's Play fundraiser" and "moving on".

At no point is there anything on their page about "Whoa, guys ... ANYBODY who's trying to take money out, DON'T DO THAT!" Hopefully they'll put something to that (mass) effect on there soon.