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[Krogangreetings]

This is why I stand alone

[admcmei]

so yeah, when some people do a hugely, inhuman ****ty thing, trying to accuse a whole giant group of people (so, a lot of people who just didn't do that shotty thing) of that ****ty thing is pretty ****ty by itself. Don't do it: it doesn't make you as bad a human being as people who take back donations to charity, obviously, but it also doesn't exactly give you "paragon points" to use such a horrible thing this way. Most of us obviously didn't take our donations back, we don't deserve this kind of insinuation.

[kbct]

The Razman wrote...

I agree, but I think it also deserves attention that the Retake movement doesn't seem to be addressing this.

How significant of a problem is it? Will it even add up to $1K out of $80K?

[hawkens982]

I think they need to post some examples of those emails supposedly sent. Of course blurb out the contact and names and just give us what is in the email. At least thats showing some proof that people are doing it, instead of just saying oh a bunch of emails were received and this is whats happening. If not, at least post the email from PayPal or something.

[ShinAnubisXIII]

Who says that the Retake Movement has won? Until there are stone carved hard cold facts i.e. an official announcement of either new endings, additional endings or expanded endings so that it all makes sense, nothing has been won. People read way to much into Dr. Muzyka's PR statement.

Nevertheless, asking for donations back is just plain sick and these louts should truly be ashamed.

[Sipau Fade]

It's funny to see the retake movement use the exact same "pr" tactics to minimize the negative aspects of their movement. That bioware has employed. It's just a vocal minority asking for their money back right? I think this is a good thing. I hope this does blow up in your face so you'll have an understanding of what bioware has been going through. Even if it's just a handful of people, it's completely atrocious and there actions are worse than any "botched" ending ever could have been.

[The Razman]

kbct wrote...

The Razman wrote...

I agree, but I think it also deserves attention that the Retake movement doesn't seem to be addressing this.

How significant of a problem is it? Will it even add up to $1K out of $80K?

The significance of this problem is measured in percentages of money that's being taken out? As long as a majority of the money stays in, it doesn't matter that they're causing severe problems and stress for the charity they're meant to be raising money for, which could be avoided if they just took the time to properly say "Don't do that" on the front of their page?

[Aggie Punbot]

Just out of curiosity, I wonder if these people asking for their donations *back* are doing so because of the charity drive being abruptly forced to a halt.

[Moonshadow_Dark]

Shin-Anubis wrote...

Who says that the Retake Movement has won? Until there are stone carved hard cold facts i.e. an official announcement of either new endings, additional endings or expanded endings so that it all makes sense, nothing has been won. People read way to much into Dr. Muzyka's PR statement.

Nevertheless, asking for donations back is just plain sick and these louts should truly be ashamed.

They did win.

And because they won, they no longer have to protest. Or riot. Or sue. Or MAKE ANYMORE THREADS ABOUT IT.

Get it?

[Megakoresh]

WOW! This is horrible! I mean it's probably less than 1% of all the people who participated but it's still horrible.

[kbct]

The Razman wrote...

kbct wrote...

The Razman wrote...

I agree, but I think it also deserves attention that the Retake movement doesn't seem to be addressing this.

How significant of a problem is it? Will it even add up to $1K out of $80K?

The significance of this problem is measured in percentages of money that's being taken out? As long as a majority of the money stays in, it doesn't matter that they're causing severe problems and stress for the charity they're meant to be raising money for, which could be avoided if they just took the time to properly say "Don't do that" on the front of their page?

Okay, what percentage of people pulled out their money? 1%?

[maddlarkin]

I don't want my money back and neither do the vast majority of people on the site, if nothing else glad to help some kids, at least some good came out of a terrible ending.

These actions if they did indeed take place are abhorrent to the majority of those of the retake mass effect movement and in no way reflect our views as a group.

Infact we are currently looking for a new charity to support. The Childs play fubd having reached the $80,000 cap set by them.
 
Hold the Line!

Modifié par maddlarkin, 23 mars 2012 - 01:39 .

[The Razman]

kbct wrote...

The Razman wrote...

kbct wrote...

The Razman wrote...

I agree, but I think it also deserves attention that the Retake movement doesn't seem to be addressing this.

How significant of a problem is it? Will it even add up to $1K out of $80K?

The significance of this problem is measured in percentages of money that's being taken out? As long as a majority of the money stays in, it doesn't matter that they're causing severe problems and stress for the charity they're meant to be raising money for, which could be avoided if they just took the time to properly say "Don't do that" on the front of their page?

Okay, what percentage of people pulled out their money? 1%?

The significance of this problem is measured in percentages of money that's being taken out? As long as a majority of the money stays in, it doesn't matter that they're causing severe problems and stress for the charity they're meant to be raising money for, which could be avoided if they just took the time to properly say "Don't do that" on the front of their page?

(I know that's a repeat of what I just said, but you just ignored it and repeated what you said, so I figured it was ok.)

Modifié par The Razman, 23 mars 2012 - 01:13 .

[Moonshadow_Dark]

maddlarkin wrote...

I don't want my money back and neither do the vast majority of people on the site, if nothing else glad to help some kids, at least some good came out of a terrible ending

You don't actually know that. The cancelling is all anonymous. Someone can say "Oh I'm totally donating!" while on hold with Paypal asking for their cash back.

[kbct]

The Razman wrote...

kbct wrote...

Okay, what percentage of people pulled out their money? 1%?

The significance of this problem is measured in percentages of money
that's being taken out?

What I'm saying is don't focus on the zit on an ass of an angel. The chartiy did great things. We need more information.

I don't care if we measure it in dollars or people. I just want to know the details.

[da mighty rEAper]

this is bull****, i dont believe, ppl cant be that dumb

Modifié par da mighty rEAper, 23 mars 2012 - 01:21 .

[Menethra]

Every movement in history be it gaming or otherwise always has it's idiots, i dont endorse trying to get money back from charity as for saying we've " won " no, we haven't people read to much into ray's words only april will tell what's to come everything now is speculation at best.

It's also not good to generalise and try to cast mature members of the movement in with these scumbags that want to screw over a charity maybe next time rework your topic name abit?

[aznsoisauce]

For people that expect to get something in return when donating to charity...There are things like The Humble Bundle.

[Lotion Soronarr]

citizenEXTINCT wrote...

You realize that's not EVERYONE from Retake, right?

True. But I still think that everyone involved in the retake is a little nutty to start it in the frist place.

[Supersomething]

[wolfeye7]

As part of the RetakeMassEffect movement I also find it disgusting that anyone would donate to a charity and then ask for their money back.

However I would like to point out, that I have not actually seen anyone mention wanting their money back. All I've seen within the movement are people as shocked as I am to hear of this turn of events.

Could someone please give me a link which mentions who and how many people have asked for their money back and on what grounds?

[totalrecall87]

wolfeye7 wrote...

As part of the RetakeMassEffect movement I also find it disgusting that anyone would donate to a charity and then ask for their money back.

However I would like to point out, that I have not actually seen anyone mention wanting their money back. All I've seen within the movement are people as shocked as I am to hear of this turn of events.

Could someone please give me a link which mentions who and how many people have asked for their money back and on what grounds?

+1 Please share a link that provides evidence of this.

The charity movement was and still is a source of pride amongst the the members of the movement and myself  because we were able to take a negative emotion and channel it towards a good cause.  In no way to I agree with people asking for their money back.  Personally the shear idea of someone doing so makes me sick to my stomach and this feeling is shared amongst the vast majority of the group.   

[LeifofRohan]

wolfeye7 wrote...

As part of the RetakeMassEffect movement I also find it disgusting that anyone would donate to a charity and then ask for their money back.

However I would like to point out, that I have not actually seen anyone mention wanting their money back. All I've seen within the movement are people as shocked as I am to hear of this turn of events.

Could someone please give me a link which mentions who and how many people have asked for their money back and on what grounds?

Agreed. I haven't either. And I would defently say that the RetakeMassEffect movement doesn't condone this, nor incourages it. It just feels like its being used to make us look bad... again. <_< I donated to Childs Play cause I wanted to. Not because I was like ZOMG I WANT A NEW ENDING SO I'LL USE A CHARITY. It was a good idea from the movement and it helped kids in need. Nuff said.

[Mylia Stenetch]

kbct wrote...

The Razman wrote...

I agree, but I think it also deserves attention that the Retake movement doesn't seem to be addressing this.

How significant of a problem is it? Will it even add up to $1K out of $80K?

It does not matter if it was $1 being taken back. When you donate to a Charity foundation you follow through with that donation, that is a just, fair and "Paragon" thing to do. When I head this it sickens me that (some) people could be that dense to ask for money back etc, this is not targeting the entire group, just the people.

Now if the group is not defending the charity, then they should get negative light on this. They should be making sure people follow through with their pledges, since it brings a positive spin on their campaign and a good light on gamers.

Even trying to justify some people wanting money back is a slap in the face, also it shows that they were exploting a charity support to benefit there cause which is not cool either.

[Moonshadow_Dark]

LeifofRohan wrote...

wolfeye7 wrote...

As part of the RetakeMassEffect movement I also find it disgusting that anyone would donate to a charity and then ask for their money back.

However I would like to point out, that I have not actually seen anyone mention wanting their money back. All I've seen within the movement are people as shocked as I am to hear of this turn of events.

Could someone please give me a link which mentions who and how many people have asked for their money back and on what grounds?

Agreed. I haven't either. And I would defently say that the RetakeMassEffect movement doesn't condone this, nor incourages it. It just feels like its being used to make us look bad... again. <_< I donated to Childs Play cause I wanted to. Not because I was like ZOMG I WANT A NEW ENDING SO I'LL USE A CHARITY. It was a good idea from the movement and it helped kids in need. Nuff said.

Indeed. But just because YOU did, does not mean everyone else did. And even if RME does not condone this will not mean some people are not doing it. And they will certainly not tell you straight to your face that they are.

But you donated because YOU wanted to. That's what matters.