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 It's possible that people are dumb, that they donated money thinking that this was a 1 to 1 quid pro quo type thing. 

It's possible that the original donation page got trolled. Maybe people purposely donated, then purposely took the money back, to make it look bad.

I have no idea. I do know that we have the power to make up the difference.

I have a post about it, here. Please read it, offer your thoughts, and maybe donate anyway to Child's Play, or encourage other people to do so.

http://social.biowar.../index/10509626

[LeifofRohan]

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

LeifofRohan wrote...

wolfeye7 wrote...

As part of the RetakeMassEffect movement I also find it disgusting that anyone would donate to a charity and then ask for their money back.

However I would like to point out, that I have not actually seen anyone mention wanting their money back. All I've seen within the movement are people as shocked as I am to hear of this turn of events.

Could someone please give me a link which mentions who and how many people have asked for their money back and on what grounds?

Agreed. I haven't either. And I would defently say that the RetakeMassEffect movement doesn't condone this, nor incourages it. It just feels like its being used to make us look bad... again. <_< I donated to Childs Play cause I wanted to. Not because I was like ZOMG I WANT A NEW ENDING SO I'LL USE A CHARITY. It was a good idea from the movement and it helped kids in need. Nuff said.

Indeed. But just because YOU did, does not mean everyone else did. And even if RME does not condone this will not mean some people are not doing it. And they will certainly not tell you straight to your face that they are.

But you donated because YOU wanted to. That's what matters.

Very true. And I hope (And am pretty sure) others feels this way. :innocent:

Modifié par LeifofRohan, 23 mars 2012 - 01:32 .

[Lux]

I've donated to Child's Play and find ridiculous that some people now want their money back. Ridiculous.

[wolfeye7]

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

LeifofRohan wrote...

wolfeye7 wrote...

As part of the RetakeMassEffect movement I also find it disgusting that anyone would donate to a charity and then ask for their money back.

However I would like to point out, that I have not actually seen anyone mention wanting their money back. All I've seen within the movement are people as shocked as I am to hear of this turn of events.

Could someone please give me a link which mentions who and how many people have asked for their money back and on what grounds?

Agreed. I haven't either. And I would defently say that the RetakeMassEffect movement doesn't condone this, nor incourages it. It just feels like its being used to make us look bad... again. <_< I donated to Childs Play cause I wanted to. Not because I was like ZOMG I WANT A NEW ENDING SO I'LL USE A CHARITY. It was a good idea from the movement and it helped kids in need. Nuff said.

Indeed. But just because YOU did, does not mean everyone else did. And even if RME does not condone this will not mean some people are not doing it. And they will certainly not tell you straight to your face that they are.

But you donated because YOU wanted to. That's what matters.

True, and I don't doubt the possibility of someone asking for their money back. There all or sorts of sick people in this world. I would simply like to educate myself more on this matter...even though doing so will likely depress me

[KroganShields]

Disgusting people, scums. Obviously it's a 'vocal minority' (like you ending-lovers like to say ) from the Retake. Paypal should just raise their middle finger at those retards and tell them to **** off.

[Mylia Stenetch]

totalrecall87 wrote...

wolfeye7 wrote...

As part of the RetakeMassEffect movement I also find it disgusting that anyone would donate to a charity and then ask for their money back.

However I would like to point out, that I have not actually seen anyone mention wanting their money back. All I've seen within the movement are people as shocked as I am to hear of this turn of events.

Could someone please give me a link which mentions who and how many people have asked for their money back and on what grounds?

+1 Please share a link that provides evidence of this.

The charity movement was and still is a source of pride amongst the the members of the movement and myself  because we were able to take a negative emotion and channel it towards a good cause.  In no way to I agree with people asking for their money back.  Personally the shear idea of someone doing so makes me sick to my stomach and this feeling is shared amongst the vast majority of the group.   

Can you donate anonymously? If so they could not have the persons information. Also you are following the lines of infringing people's right to privacy, which is why they would not disclose this information without you giving concent on this matter. Also I think Child's Play would want to just all the ties for this also if this was true, cause it would not want to start a "war" with people attacking the people who chose this option. 

[Murkman4683]

And let the back-pedaling commence, kudos to those asking for their money back, super classy. Gotta love the gaming community!!!

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Murkman4683 wrote...

And let the back-pedaling commence, kudos to those asking for their money back, super classy. Gotta love the gaming community!!!

It's possible that people are dumb, that they donated money thinking that this was a 1 to 1 quid pro quo type thing. 

It's possible that the original donation page got trolled. Maybe people purposely donated, then purposely took the money back, to make it look bad.

No one knows. But the kind thing to do would be to help Child's Play, anyway.
http://social.biowar.../index/10509626

[Alexraptor1]

Obviously the people who demanded their donations back are an increadibly small minority.
Tycho said himself that he actually supports the cause.... would he really say such a thing if the vast majority of donators were scumbags that asked for their money back?

[c-monkey13]

I'm a member of the Retake movement. I donated to Child's Play, I'm unemployed and I don't want my money back!

How worthless are you as a human to ask for money back from a charity like this?

I take it back actually, human beings have brains, these are just giant douche bags!

To the rest of the movement, good job not being one of THEM.

Modifié par c-monkey13, 23 mars 2012 - 01:39 .

[kbct]

Mylia Stenetch wrote...

kbct wrote...

The Razman wrote...

I agree, but I think it also deserves attention that the Retake movement doesn't seem to be addressing this.

How significant of a problem is it? Will it even add up to $1K out of $80K?

It does not matter if it was $1 being taken back. When you donate to a Charity foundation you follow through with that donation, that is a just, fair and "Paragon" thing to do. When I head this it sickens me that (some) people could be that dense to ask for money back etc, this is not targeting the entire group, just the people.

What if some people contributed to the charity with the only purpose of taking it back out so we can talk about it in thread like this? You should see how politics works.

That's why it's important to get details. Either the number of people out of the total -or- the dollar amount withdrawn. Then we can see if it's a significant problem.

Right now we don't know much.

[Getorex]

The Razman wrote...

http://penny-arcade....ake-mass-effect

So now that they've "won", a "high number" of Retake Mass Effect supporters are apparently asking Paypal to cancel their donations to Child's Play. In addition to people who donated to charity, then apparently realised that donating to the charity wouldn't directly get them a new ending ... so wanted their money back.

I'm not posting this to smear Retake Mass Effect. Just because it's shockingly horrible.

Wow. 

Disgusting.

Self emmolation right there.  Way to smear YOURSELVES.

[da mighty rEAper]

Its like another pr lies campaign to shatter the movement, ofc bsn is full of useless sheeps that are rdy to believe straight away. seriously go the **** out of here

[Teddie Sage]

What a bunch of selfish jerks...

[Moonshadow_Dark]

kbct wrote...

Mylia Stenetch wrote...

kbct wrote...

The Razman wrote...

I agree, but I think it also deserves attention that the Retake movement doesn't seem to be addressing this.

How significant of a problem is it? Will it even add up to $1K out of $80K?

It does not matter if it was $1 being taken back. When you donate to a Charity foundation you follow through with that donation, that is a just, fair and "Paragon" thing to do. When I head this it sickens me that (some) people could be that dense to ask for money back etc, this is not targeting the entire group, just the people.

What if some people contributed to the charity with the only purpose of taking it back out so we can talk about it in thread like this? You should see how politics works.

That's why it's important to get details. Either the number of people out of the total -or- the dollar amount withdrawn. Then we can see if it's a significant problem.

Right now we don't know much.

That politics thing only works if there is an opposing force. There is no "Anti-Retake" movement going on. This just seems like a simple case of human butt-hattery.

It happens.

Modifié par Moonshadow_Dark, 23 mars 2012 - 01:42 .

[Avaric4]

Master Bandit wrote...

Ugh... Some people should be ashamed of themselves.

Those individuals have no shame.

[Irish286]

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

LeifofRohan wrote...

wolfeye7 wrote...

As part of the RetakeMassEffect movement I also find it disgusting that anyone would donate to a charity and then ask for their money back.

However I would like to point out, that I have not actually seen anyone mention wanting their money back. All I've seen within the movement are people as shocked as I am to hear of this turn of events.

Could someone please give me a link which mentions who and how many people have asked for their money back and on what grounds?

Agreed. I haven't either. And I would defently say that the RetakeMassEffect movement doesn't condone this, nor incourages it. It just feels like its being used to make us look bad... again. <_< I donated to Childs Play cause I wanted to. Not because I was like ZOMG I WANT A NEW ENDING SO I'LL USE A CHARITY. It was a good idea from the movement and it helped kids in need. Nuff said.

Indeed. But just because YOU did, does not mean everyone else did. And even if RME does not condone this will not mean some people are not doing it. And they will certainly not tell you straight to your face that they are.

But you donated because YOU wanted to. That's what matters.

We still want proof. Otherwise this is just a smeer job. I see this kind garbabge all the time in the news. One side makes a plausible accusation then the media jumps on the accused with no evidence other than the accusers word...<_< Alright I have a counter. Penny Arcade stopped our Charity drive so they can appease EA.

[Mylia Stenetch]

kbct wrote...

Mylia Stenetch wrote...

kbct wrote...

The Razman wrote...

I agree, but I think it also deserves attention that the Retake movement doesn't seem to be addressing this.

How significant of a problem is it? Will it even add up to $1K out of $80K?

It does not matter if it was $1 being taken back. When you donate to a Charity foundation you follow through with that donation, that is a just, fair and "Paragon" thing to do. When I head this it sickens me that (some) people could be that dense to ask for money back etc, this is not targeting the entire group, just the people.

What if some people contributed to the charity with the only purpose of taking it back out so we can talk about it in thread like this? You should see how politics works.

That's why it's important to get details. Either the number of people out of the total -or- the dollar amount withdrawn. Then we can see if it's a significant problem.

Right now we don't know much.

I know how politics work, I deal with them at work all the time. For the numbers the company is in no way to disclose the amout of people who back-peddled, this starts as people who demand more info and will go to extremes for it. Again I repeat it does not matter how much money it is, it is still a baseless act being done. The Retake team should be putting our fires on their end showing their support for this, not saying (I doubted they will) well X dollars were lost, but the rest is a-okay! What needs to be shown is the Retake will not support people doing this no matter how many there are.

If they want to spin media, congrats they did their job, but this hurts more than Retake, it affects the gamming community in general.

[jackyboy666]

 Oh...my...god

This is shocking. They deserve their endings lol

No but seriously thats just disgusting.

[Moonshadow_Dark]

da mighty rEAper wrote...

Its like another pr lies campaign to shatter the movement, ofc bsn is full of useless sheeps that are rdy to believe straight away. seriously go the **** out of here

Dude, it is NOT a smear campaign. People are d-bags. They do this. I've seen guys pretend to drop a dime in the Slavation Army bell thing and pull out a couple bucks. It happens. Just let it go. The Karma train is coming on them and it's going ludacrious speed on teir behinds.

[taelus.calimshan]

Before this derails even farther, let's get a few things straight. People pulling their money back (or trying to) are almost certainly not part of a conspiracy against the Retake folks. They're probably just people who donated under an erroneous assumption and now want to change their minds. It doesn't necessarily make them evil, it just makes them people in a difficult position. Again, it's incredibly analogous to the issue the Retake folks have with the game. It's not like BioWare have a conspiracy going to make an ending that will get us to buy a new DLC ending, there was just some kind of misunderstanding that led us here. So, the people who donated probably need to just accept that they've lost that money, but to a very good cause, much as Retake hopes that BioWare will accept the mistake of the endings and act to correct it.

No one here is evil, we're just people trying to make sure the right things happen in the right places.

[XqctaX]

aslong as i see no proof of this. i will chalk this up to what it is A HITPEICE on the movement.
just as the HITPEICE on that writer supposedly critisising casey and mac.

how can anyone know that anything of this is true at all. BACK UP THE ACCUSTATIONS
or stop slandering the movement. i hate it when people accuse without facts on vague rumours.

how do they know that those that reclaimed there money has anything to do with the movement?
or just donated at the same time as the movement did!!
why is a movement beeing slandered for something an individual is "supposedly" doing?
becoue the movement havent have time to adress the issue yet?

bive me a break with the sensetionalistic accuasations.

[Moonshadow_Dark]

Irish286 wrote...

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

LeifofRohan wrote...

wolfeye7 wrote...

As part of the RetakeMassEffect movement I also find it disgusting that anyone would donate to a charity and then ask for their money back.

However I would like to point out, that I have not actually seen anyone mention wanting their money back. All I've seen within the movement are people as shocked as I am to hear of this turn of events.

Could someone please give me a link which mentions who and how many people have asked for their money back and on what grounds?

Agreed. I haven't either. And I would defently say that the RetakeMassEffect movement doesn't condone this, nor incourages it. It just feels like its being used to make us look bad... again. <_< I donated to Childs Play cause I wanted to. Not because I was like ZOMG I WANT A NEW ENDING SO I'LL USE A CHARITY. It was a good idea from the movement and it helped kids in need. Nuff said.

Indeed. But just because YOU did, does not mean everyone else did. And even if RME does not condone this will not mean some people are not doing it. And they will certainly not tell you straight to your face that they are.

But you donated because YOU wanted to. That's what matters.

We still want proof. Otherwise this is just a smeer job. I see this kind garbabge all the time in the news. One side makes a plausible accusation then the media jumps on the accused with no evidence other than the accusers word...<_< Alright I have a counter. Penny Arcade stopped our Charity drive so they can appease EA.

Why would they stop their OWN charity? Do you really believe that PA would screw over a bunch of kids JUST to make you look bad? Especially AFTER Bioware stated that they were going to take a look at the endings.

[Eire Icon]

Bfler wrote...

There are already some threads with this. Why another one?

Firstly I agree with you, only one thread should be opened for one particular subject

BUT.....................

Nobody seemed to have a problem flooding the boards with complaints about the ending for the last few weeks. Thread after thread about the same thing, anyone complained and they were hit with the "We have a right to express our opinion"

But now the forum rules should be applied eh ?

In terms of the actual article

I'm not surprised but extremely disappointed, and being honest disgusted

[kbct]

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

That politics thing only works if there is an opposing force. There is no "Anti-Retake" movement going on. This just seems like a simple case of human butt-hattery.

It happens.

People can dream up some fairly sneaky tactics.

Here we are talking about the rat bastards that took money out of the charity when we don't even know how many people did it or the amount taken out.