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[aberdash]

In before raging fanb...



Dammit!

[DauthdorianSilverstorm]

You want a good graphics game go look at mass effect which puts Dragon Age to Shame.

[ITSSEXYTIME]

DauthdorianSilverstorm wrote...

So its ok to downgrade your graphics when putting out a new game? No it is not unless it is much less flawed. If PS1 graphics are ok with you on some of the textures then you let me know. They had better textures in PS1 game or **** even on the Sega 32x don't be a twit and say lack luster graphics isn't important when you have half the game look pretty and the other half disgusting.

I am sick of people comparing games with lackluster graphics to friggin last gen games.  Yes, some areas have some poor textures (Ostagar stands out) but that doesn't change the fact that the game still has current gen models, lighting, animation and in most cases high res textures.

If you've ever PLAYED a PSX game before you'd find the comparison a ridiculous case of hyperbole.  Even late gen PS2 games didn't look as good as Dragon Age does, the highest res textures in games like Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence or God of War 2 still don't compare to the best DA has to offer.

[DaeFaron]

So wait, your saying Mass Effect was awesome, yet Dragon Age has the same, if not slightly better graphic style?

[DauthdorianSilverstorm]

Case and point look around as a human noble in the very first scene you get wooden textures are garish oh lets not forget their sloppy job on the clear hair ... the hair that they cropped out by making it clear which is painfully obvious with any fire in the back ground. If you say the graphics.

[Drag0n-RD]

It's a weird one. I like DA:O better than both BG's yet I'm not sure why. Things I loved about both BG's:

Baalspawn story - glad BG2 ended though a third would have been overkill

Art work - It's a game that still looks good today. Thats the beauty of 2D. I can't look at Quake 1 anymore.

D&D Mages - 'nuff said.

Music - It has a great "homely" feel to it. Its just  like slipping on a pair of old shoes. Though thats mostly nostalgia

The dialog - I loved reading every word everyone had to say.

Little tweaks - Such as books, who didn't read 'em in BG?

In DA:O however I seem to like:

Codex - An awful lot of it is just "meh" but some of its quite good!

Boss fights - Dragons are epic.

The art direction - I think it was directed well personally. Wish they would have sorted out grass on the PC version though it just looks horrid while everything else is nice. Even on very high for that matter.

Music - They are amazing tracks. Some of which I even placed on my ipod from the CE dvd.

Combat - Doesn't require me to use tactics like BG used to but it's a decent system and I like the way mages can set grease on fire and shatter frozen enemies. All good stuff.

Toolset - Thank you Bioware!

Modifié par Drag0n-RD, 01 décembre 2009 - 03:49 .

[DauthdorianSilverstorm]

Case and point look around as a human noble in the very first scene you get wooden textures are garish oh lets not forget their sloppy job on the clear hair ... the hair that they cropped out by making it clear which is painfully obvious with any fire in the back ground. Please note I said half of the graphics are awesome and the other half are garbage.

[DaeFaron]

Still laughing since I could pop in Mass Effect, and bam, around the same level of graphics IMO. On the console I never noticed this low-res graphics on landscape and such, might just be me.

[MerinTB]

What I find very amusing is if you cross reference the different never-ending complaints about this game you end up with multiple paradoxes:



The game is both way too hard AND way too easy.



Potion spamming is unnecessary AND essential.



The game cannot be played without at least 2 mages in the party AND the game can be won on Nightmare with a solo'd rogue easily.



It is way too easy to amass unlimited potions AND the game does not provide you with nearly enough potions.



I'm sure you all have your favorites along these lines.



I will say I find one thing refreshing about this poster - he seems to think that traps are essential to winning. That's a new one for me to see on these boards.



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OP, I have a suggestion. Your complaints (outside of graphics, which I honestly do not understand at all (partially stemming from the fact that I don't understand the fixation on graphics to start with, but whatever)) are the opposite of many other people who are complaining about this game. Take the time to read other threads that complain about the game, or even those that don't complain but ask why the game is X (where X can be: too easy, too hard, too mage focused, too herbalism focused; too focused on dialog; too focused on hack n slash; etc.) and see that many people see different things when they play this game.



I see one of the best game experiences I've had in many years. For me, the last game I enjoyed this much was VTM Bloodlines, and before that was KotOR. I can count on one hand that games I'd rank up, for my personal enjoyment, with this game.



And I'm sure there are millions of gamers out there who this kind of game just isn't for them at all.



Heck, even "Bioware enthusiasts" cannot agree.



Last example - I did enjoy Jade Empire, did not enjoy BG1 (never finished it), and really don't like NWN (other than the toolset and success of the community - the actual game / gameplay leaves me cold.) Other "Bioware enthusiasts" might love Mass Effect and hate KotOR, or only like BG2.



Your, my, and other people's opinions are just opinions. You cannot tell them they are wrong in how they rank a game - you can only say you'd rank it differently.



I'd give DAO as close to a 10 out of 10 as I can think - and I'd give BG1 maybe a 5 if I was feeling generous. But that's me. I'd also give NWN a 6, but only because of the toolset and community - remove those, NWN would get a 3 from me. Yet I love Bioware games.

[Shinji Ex]

DA:O deffinately FTW! fixed

[Legion-001]

Blakes 7 wrote...

I wonder why people assume rose tinted glasses when a lot of posters who played it for the first time like 2 years ago still think it a superior game

2 years ago? I've still got BG's 1&2 on my system.

But there are a LOT of immersion breakers in DA:O like being able to steal someone's prizes possesions right in front of their faces without them even reacting or the fact that you could have the four horsemen of the apocalypse following you the guards won't do a thing about it.

Modifié par Legion-001, 01 décembre 2009 - 03:55 .

[DauthdorianSilverstorm]

Oh yeah lets not forget about an overly dissappointing load screen ... Save often as you don't know when a dragon will appear out of no where ... oh you mean that pathetic attempt for a dragon in the Bracilian Ruins? The only random dragon fight ... the best thing about this game is the banter.

[DauthdorianSilverstorm]

Oh yeah lets not forget about an overly dissappointing load screen ... Save often as you don't know when a dragon will appear out of no where ... oh you mean that pathetic attempt for a dragon in the Bracilian Ruins? The only random dragon fight ... Please let me know of how this game is Epic. If you can convience me this game is Epic then I shall obviously be convienced until then I'd give the game an 8 over all.

[DaeFaron]

Bloodlines was an awesome game, the first first person (lol) game that actually drew me in and scared the **** out of me in parts. I remember actually wondering if I should even move in that haunted house.



Funny that I never touched trap-making or herbalism in the playthroughs. Poison-making for that one Lothering quest only.

[DauthdorianSilverstorm]

Eisberg yes let me go drive 300 miles right now to my parents house and crawl into the attic and dig out my 32x. Or I can start a new dragon age game right now and point out at the least 5 flaws and or low res texturing.

[mmu1]

Legion-001 wrote...

Blakes 7 wrote...

I wonder why people assume rose tinted glasses when a lot of posters who played it for the first time like 2 years ago still think it a superior game

2 years ago? I've still got BG's 1&2 on my system.

So do I... I played a bunch of BG2 two months ago, while waiting for DAO. And it is a much better game than DAO.

In fact, I'd say DAO is the second-worst Bioware game I ever played. It's not a spiritual successor of BG2, it's a spiritual successor of  the original NWN - surrounded by tons of hype which it doesn't remotely live up to.

It's so bad, in fact (compared to other Bioware titles, not bad in an absolute sense) that it made me appreciate Mass Effect a whole lot more.

[MerinTB]

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

The fact is that Dragon Age is a terrible game.

Uninspired lore, a story that could be written on a napkin, stale characters, terrible graphics, generic art direction, and an overall forgettable experience.

At best it's a 6/10.

No doubt.  Not photo-realistic graphics.  The game needs me to use a controller instead of just knowing what I want my characters to do.  The game does not simultaneously make me feel like I'm a genius at gaming by letting me easily win all fights AND make it feel like I'm being very challenged by nearly beating me every fight.  It's not neverending, so I'm not getting my money's worth - I can have more fun shutting my eyes and imagining, and that only stops when I want to stop!  And can you believe there are not more options in character design, whilst many of the options they give us are worthless and you only need to take trapmaking!