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[Getorex]

jimfixedit wrote...

I just finished a second run of it to see what happened with an ME2 rather than ME1 LI and to be honest I quite enjoyed it, apart from the bugs and useless journal, but then there were bugs & crap bits in the other 2 and we forgave those (Mako, planet scanning etc)

Because I'd already seen the train wreck at the end I just blanked it out of my mind and got on with the rest of it.

If they don't change the end I really don't care. I've played the game twice. I can now happily trade it in when I get back from hols in mid-April, get the 2 quid of whatever pathetic amount of cash they'll be giving for it then and wait for the bazillion (or is it gazillion) guns of Borderlands 2.

Quite a sad thing considering I've played ME1 6 or 7 times, ME2 around 8 times, and ME3...not quite once (I stopped just before the ending).  You, on the other hand, are looking at TWO WHOLE PLAY-THROUGHS!  Wow.  Two.  

How the mighty have fallen. 

[Poison_Berrie]

robertm2 wrote...

that mostly makes sense but i would say they moved on to DA3 because its time has come. if you look at the spaces between release dates DA3 makes sense. i just hope its better than DA2 was. 

Perhaps, but they did note that they cancelled one that was in the works.

[Getorex]

Alexbr wrote...

fobali wrote...

The same as what happens if they do. They already lost a lot of customers, and the ending was just the final straw. The rest of the game was pretty shoddy as well.

^^^This.

Endings isn't great but it's just final straw. They simply cashing in on the franchise. Of course they expected dissent. They didn't expected a storm. And they respond because it's more damaging then they would like to. If it would not damage their cash in they would not give a flying monkey about it. That's why reviewers rage too. Because if BioWare changes the endings reviewers sites already through the window reputation will end up in stinky trash can because it will basically mean that developer admitted their reviews was hmm complimentary at least.

Just look at the game in lieu of lore, prequels, bugs, dumb down, etc. It's half job and done lousily. Nothing in ME3 reminds of prequels glory. And that is 10/10 and 9/10. Pfff.

Well one of the great Forbes articles about this does go into how EVERY game is, apparently, a 4 or 5 star out of 5 star game.  EVERY game.  There is no such thing as a 1 or 2 star game to the "professional" reviewers.  

Game reviewers such as at IGN, Gamespot, etc, all live in Lake Wobegone where ALL games are above average.

I'm kinda wondering if someone who is still playing the game could take on a mission...we know about the creepy Chobot chick - an IGN lackey in story that "earns" ME3 an automatic perfect rating from IGN...are any of the NPC civilians scattered around the game modeled on other reviewers I wonder?  Was there more pandering than to just IGN?

[Getorex]

If this whole sorry mess doesn't terminate any plans they have for making a Mass Effect movie, then the box office TANKING will send it down in flames the same way they've managed to flameout the entire series.

Give the movie rights to Uwe Boll. He's the only one who can do the movie the same justice that the ending of ME3 has done to the entire series.

[Tirigon]

Getorex wrote...

Well one of the great Forbes articles about this does go into how EVERY game is, apparently, a 4 or 5 star out of 5 star game.  EVERY game.  There is no such thing as a 1 or 2 star game to the "professional" reviewers. 

That is sadly true. I am at a point where I would probably insta-buy a 1 / 5 game just out of spite (as long as the genre is one I like).

[Getorex]

I was just browsing a list of current and soon-to-be-released game titles...*SIGH* Nothing. Lots and lots of nothing. I HAD thought (assumed) that Mass Effect 3 would be enough for a while as I played and replayed.

Lots and lots of nothing.

[Bocks]

If they don't change the ending?

They'll lose fans and a lot of respect. I personally will never touch their games ever again, even with a stick on a second-hand copy. I'll try to convice all of my friends to not touch their games, too.

They don't give me what was advertised, I don't give them what they want. Easy as that.

[surleygentelman]

man, the tweets and forums are getting a little hilarious people are really trying to convince either themselves or bioware that they are not going to buy any more bio or ea games (or in one case any video games at all) if they don't change the endings. Well, I'm sure the endings will be change as bioware has a history of kinda pandering to people. The only real remaining question is how badly this is going to overshadow what essentially is still a sound game. Remember people if this can change we can yell loud enough and get SEVER TRANSFERS IN SWTOR which is a far more important issues than a game this is working fine already. In any case can we get some more gear or something along with this weekends op

[Getorex]

surleygentelman wrote...

man, the tweets and forums are getting a little hilarious people are really trying to convince either themselves or bioware that they are not going to buy any more bio or ea games (or in one case any video games at all) if they don't change the endings. Well, I'm sure the endings will be change as bioware has a history of kinda pandering to people. The only real remaining question is how badly this is going to overshadow what essentially is still a sound game. Remember people if this can change we can yell loud enough and get SEVER TRANSFERS IN SWTOR which is a far more important issues than a game this is working fine already. In any case can we get some more gear or something along with this weekends op

SIGH.

Bioware has ALWAYS listened to the fans and taken their input to CHANGE their ****.  They are merely needing to do the same thing here only with more fan pressure than usual.  

You know how many EA games I own?  I can count them on one hand.  Know how many Bioware games I own?  Mass Effect series.  That's it.  Sans Mass Effect 3 which I returned to exchange for another game entirely. 

As for others, some will ultimately go back and buy another Bioware title (probably yet ANOTHER sword and sorcery re-hash in DA3) but many will not.  That will hurt.

By the way, Bioware is taking PLAYER input on how DA3 should be, what should be in it, etc.  Pandering, right?  A violation of "artistic integrity" right?  Who cares what the PAYING CUSTOMERS want?  They are only the entire reason the company exists at all.

[ReshyShira]

Then bioware will likely suffer massive drops in potential profitability due to the loss of credibility.

[BootyBamBoo]

 I dont know....The DLC better not be soem sort of Epilouge with 10 - 50 minutes of play time. No. I'll litterly retun my copy lol. 

[Ieldra]

If Bioware won't change the endings, won't buy any DLC for ME3. That's it.

I'll also not buy any other Bioware game until I know how it ends. But I'm doing that regardless of changes in the ME3 endings. If the DA3 team promises they won't destroy the world I may be convinced to change that attitude.

I won't be suckered into another "everyone and everything is screwed" ending. I'll remember this debacle for decades. Casey Hudson wanted a memorable ending. I can only say be careful what you wish for.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 23 mars 2012 - 08:42 .

[surleygentelman]

It is pandering to the we the fans. Also i never stated that i don't feel as if the endings need some basic clarification. however, what i don't agree with is having someone else's vision changed due to others yelling loud( and some cases placing death threats). So yes i think it is pandering and as for Da3 Who cares... JK. In any case the likelihood is that the DLC ending change is probably already being crafted. The true question that remains is will this retcon destroy the possibility for future stories in the ME franchise. I mean have you read the forums for some of the suggestions that people are putting forth in some cases its hard to believe what what is being posted. In all good reason this change will move the story forward in some manner, but what it does the the future of ME ( if there is one now) is probably going to be detrimental



ALSO REMEMBER TO DEMAND SERVER TRANSFER IN SWTOR.... we deserve that too or something

[Oldbones2]

surleygentelman

Bioware has been ASKING us for suggestions. That's why you see a flood of everyone and everything in the forums.

Also as much as I would like it to happen, chances are the RGC will not be fully cut out of the game.

Bioware may clarify the ending. They may even make changes, but the won't be very big or very substantial IMO.

Furthermore This won't really change anything outside of Mass Effect. Most games do not have choice elements. Very few have any sort of bridge between games that tracks choices made. And very few games have an intrinsic story or deeply immersive feel that Mass Effect has.

No one cares enough about most games to demand changes in the artistic elements (story, characters, to a degree artwork). In Mass Effect story and characters are the only thing I do care about.

[neftones]

The integrity of the industry would be maintained. CRAZY IDEA, I know.

[Salis777]

wastelander75 wrote...

If they stick to their guns and stay the current course they're on (meaning no change or alternative choice endings), I see dismal sales for Dragon Age III and near vacant servers for SWTOR.

Edit: Not to mention poor DLC sales for ME3 on.

Yep, they'll lose a lot of money.

[Ricinator]

 if they don't change i will never buy their games again, and i supose i wont be the only one

[MassEffect762]

The BSN will be jamming. lol *readies popcorn*

It's a no win situation for them. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

Modifié par MassEffect762, 23 mars 2012 - 10:45 .

[Akaryu]

neftones wrote...

The integrity of the industry would be maintained. CRAZY IDEA, I know.

yes they would maintain there integrity but at the cost of sales and sales are what makes or breaks companies.

[TLK Spires]

i believe it's called 'shooting yourself in the ass'

[Salis777]

Akaryu wrote...

neftones wrote...

The integrity of the industry would be maintained. CRAZY IDEA, I know.

yes they would maintain there integrity but at the cost of sales and sales are what makes or breaks companies.

The industry doesn't have any integrity.

[yearsago]

Dariustwinblade wrote...

 A lot of media sites are already claiming that Bioware will change/retcon or create an alternative path to the ending.


IF and IF Bioware now dosen't deliver this "promise" of change. Remember Dr Ray just said clarify the ending NOT change, he also mentioned how he supports their ""artistic integrity"(regardless if its crap or not).

What will happen to these media sites and how will the public react if Bioware dosen't change the endings as most assume.



It seems Ray backed BW into an even tighter corner. I most certainly don't  want to be them now. They are seriously screwed.

They would destroy a very lucrative gaming universe.