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[majormajormmajor]

luricanson wrote...

So you're saying that since the numbers don't equal up to what YOU believe, that we all must be cheating?  Wow.

pro-ending side is suffering from acute rectal perturbation that the supposed majority who enjoyed the endings haven't shown up in every single poll on the subject

[Shallyah]

I see where this is going. I've seen this attitude repeated over the past few weeks. One pro-ender who is likely not really pro-ender catches the spotlight and taunts everyone, knowing that he will irk the vast majority of the community.

Just let it go, the results speak for themselves.

Remember to be polite and be civil above all else.

[RavenEyry]

This tread is visible by people other than retakers, so I really don't see the manipulation.

[blacqout]

Kashola wrote...

blacqout wrote...

majormajormmajor wrote...

Ha. Fecking 71%. 80 if we're counting the too bleak people.

Still a goddamned minority, huh?

blacqout wrote...

Yet another example of the Retake movement troops being mobilised to manipulate yet another opinion poll.

Typical pro-ending lies. Why don't you go visit IGN or one of the other paid-for lapdogs?

Who says that i'm "pro-ending". I'm pro-Truth.

I can link to multiple threads on this forum highlighting polls on sites such as GameFAQ, asking people to "correct" what the movement sees as incorrect figures. Some Hold The Line drones even worked out that they could vote multiple times by clearing their caches.

You are a minority. You just use underhanded tactics to make yourselves seem larger than you really are. It's grown past pathetic.

You have no real evidence of this being the case.  Of course polls will be mentioned in the community.. that is not an uncommon thing.  I have seen (albeit only one) poll where "we" aren't winning, and i saw that poll link on this very forum.  So by your logic that poll should be skewed aswell.

Basically what i'm saying is:  You aren't speaking the "truth" but your opinion.  Don't confuse the two.

I was involved in a rather long discussion yesterday, in which multiple "retakers" made mention to underhanded ways their bretheren could manipulate the results of a gamefaq poll.

http://social.biowar...ndex/10459868/8

It demonstrabely does happen, and your ignorance doesn't change the fact.

[jb1983]

blacqout wrote...

majormajormmajor wrote...

Ha. Fecking 71%. 80 if we're counting the too bleak people.

Still a goddamned minority, huh?

blacqout wrote...

Yet another example of the Retake movement troops being mobilised to manipulate yet another opinion poll.

Typical pro-ending lies. Why don't you go visit IGN or one of the other paid-for lapdogs?

Who says that i'm "pro-ending". I'm pro-Truth.

I can link to multiple threads on this forum highlighting polls on sites such as GameFAQ, asking people to "correct" what the movement sees as incorrect figures. Some Hold The Line drones even worked out that they could vote multiple times by clearing their caches.

You are a minority. You just use underhanded tactics to make yourselves seem larger than you really are. It's grown past pathetic.

If it were a minority, then the polls would be closer. It would be more of a 60/40 split due to the overwhelming influx of players. 

As it is, only 10% say they like the game. This is the most I've seen on any poll. A minority can't cause that. 

[DreamTension]

Shallyah wrote...

blacqout wrote...

Yet another example of the Retake movement troops being mobilised to manipulate an opinion poll.

Why don't you mobilize your own "troops"?

This is the Mass Effect 3 official forums, where else would you ask for opinion about Mass Effect 3? If you're the weak minority don't look for excuses to the poll results.

That one poll is already looking again like 82%+ of people think the endings should change, one or another way. Only 10% so far think it's just fine.

+1

People with like minds shouldn't go out and vote, apparently?

[majormajormmajor]

Hey blacqout

consider that the poll was already 80% against before being posted here, so no retake droves voting yet lol

looks like cnet's readers already hate the endings without the need for box-stuffing from BSN

[howieloader]

Coolfaec wrote...

How many polls do we need to win until people to get their heads out of their asses? Over 9000?

You're exactly right, I'm done with polls... I don't care what any polls say, for the most part they all are exactly the same, do I need to keep voting on them for some reason???

[Ville L]

blacqout wrote...

majormajormmajor wrote...

Ha. Fecking 71%. 80 if we're counting the too bleak people.

Still a goddamned minority, huh?

blacqout wrote...

Yet another example of the Retake movement troops being mobilised to manipulate yet another opinion poll.

Typical pro-ending lies. Why don't you go visit IGN or one of the other paid-for lapdogs?

Who says that i'm "pro-ending". I'm pro-Truth.

I can link to multiple threads on this forum highlighting polls on sites such as GameFAQ, asking people to "correct" what the movement sees as incorrect figures. Some Hold The Line drones even worked out that they could vote multiple times by clearing their caches.

You are a minority. You just use underhanded tactics to make yourselves seem larger than you really are. It's grown past pathetic.

Just feed yourself with lies if that makes you feel better, sorry but you are minority, majority doesn't like the ending, Sorry if you can't accept the truth.

[blacqout]

majormajormmajor wrote...

blacqout wrote...

Cnet's regular readers.

...the best sample to take for ME3 players, amirite?

You don't need to have played the game to have an opinion on this. It's kind of like Tali's trial in ME2. There is a larger issue at play. Is a developers right to their own intellectual property absolute, or is the customer always right.

[MassiveEffects]

blacqout wrote...

Yet another example of the Retake movement troops being mobilised to manipulate an opinion poll.

OP did not pick sides in their original post; he or she merely posted a link to the poll. How is that "mobilizing"?

Modifié par MassiveEffects, 23 mars 2012 - 02:26 .

[RavenEyry]

blacqout wrote...

I was involved in a rather long discussion yesterday, in which multiple "retakers" made mention to underhanded ways their bretheren could manipulate the results of a gamefaq poll.

http://social.biowar...ndex/10459868/8

It demonstrabely does happen, and your ignorance doesn't change the fact.

Some people abuse polls != people link polls because they want them abused.

The OP was just informing the whole board of a poll that exists.

[_NF_Von_Lipwig]

Voted

[majormajormmajor]

blacqout wrote...

I was involved in a rather long discussion yesterday, in which multiple "retakers" made mention to underhanded ways their bretheren could manipulate the results of a gamefaq poll.

http://social.biowar...ndex/10459868/8

It demonstrabely does happen, and your ignorance doesn't change the fact.

It "demonstrabely" does happen because someone says it does? Wow, better start posting as a pro-ending person and claiming all sorts of outrageous sh*t, you people will believe everything you read on the internet

proof or gtfo

[jb1983]

blacqout wrote...

majormajormmajor wrote...

blacqout wrote...

Cnet's regular readers.

...the best sample to take for ME3 players, amirite?

You don't need to have played the game to have an opinion on this. It's kind of like Tali's trial in ME2. There is a larger issue at play. Is a developers right to their own intellectual property absolute, or is the customer always right.

From a business view - which is the only view that matters if you want to see games continued to be developed - the customer is always right. That's not even an issue. 

Secondly, the developer (Bioware) relinquished part of that right when they said that it was the player's story. In other words, if we don't like the ending, we now have a legitimate right to complain about the ending. 

[MrFob]

blacqout wrote...

majormajormmajor wrote...

blacqout wrote...

Cnet's regular readers.

...the best sample to take for ME3 players, amirite?

You don't need to have played the game to have an opinion on this. It's kind of like Tali's trial in ME2. There is a larger issue at play. Is a developers right to their own intellectual property absolute, or is the customer always right.

...or can the customer reaction persuade the owner of the IP to make changes themselves?

'Cause I think BW has that right, too.

Modifié par MrFob, 23 mars 2012 - 02:27 .

[savionen]

RavenEyry wrote...

blacqout wrote...

I was involved in a rather long discussion yesterday, in which multiple "retakers" made mention to underhanded ways their bretheren could manipulate the results of a gamefaq poll.

http://social.biowar...ndex/10459868/8

It demonstrabely does happen, and your ignorance doesn't change the fact.

Some people abuse polls != people link polls because they want them abused.

The OP was just informing the whole board of a poll that exists.

Mathematically speaking it's also much easier to abuse a poll being in the minority.

If there's 100 votes for side-1, and 20 for side-2, 1 vote makes a much better difference for side-2.

[spacefiddle]

blacqout wrote...

Yet another example of the Retake movement troops being mobilised to manipulate an opinion poll.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize this post and that poll were locked to "retake movement troops."  Hey, instead of being Comic Book Guy, maybe you could go vote?  And encourage others who feel as you do to do the same?  Of course, it's far easier to sit on your butt and complain about people who take action on the things they care about.

[Kashola]

blacqout wrote...

Kashola wrote...

blacqout wrote...

majormajormmajor wrote...

Ha. Fecking 71%. 80 if we're counting the too bleak people.

Still a goddamned minority, huh?

blacqout wrote...

Yet another example of the Retake movement troops being mobilised to manipulate yet another opinion poll.

Typical pro-ending lies. Why don't you go visit IGN or one of the other paid-for lapdogs?

Who says that i'm "pro-ending". I'm pro-Truth.

I can link to multiple threads on this forum highlighting polls on sites such as GameFAQ, asking people to "correct" what the movement sees as incorrect figures. Some Hold The Line drones even worked out that they could vote multiple times by clearing their caches.

You are a minority. You just use underhanded tactics to make yourselves seem larger than you really are. It's grown past pathetic.

You have no real evidence of this being the case.  Of course polls will be mentioned in the community.. that is not an uncommon thing.  I have seen (albeit only one) poll where "we" aren't winning, and i saw that poll link on this very forum.  So by your logic that poll should be skewed aswell.

Basically what i'm saying is:  You aren't speaking the "truth" but your opinion.  Don't confuse the two.

I was involved in a rather long discussion yesterday, in which multiple "retakers" made mention to underhanded ways their bretheren could manipulate the results of a gamefaq poll.

http://social.biowar...ndex/10459868/8

It demonstrabely does happen, and your ignorance doesn't change the fact.

Cute, taking anecdotal evidence from a few people on the forums and applying them to thousands that vote in these various polls.  Then you call me ignorant after i don't buy what you're selling.  Fact is.. a lot of people do not like these endings, proof is in what Bioware is planning to do with the ending DLC.  Now whether or not the dlc will be good or not remains to be seen, but it does prove that enough people don't like the current state of the endings. Now THAT is evidence. 

[dbl219]

blacqout wrote...

majormajormmajor wrote...

Ha. Fecking 71%. 80 if we're counting the too bleak people.

Still a goddamned minority, huh?

blacqout wrote...

Yet another example of the Retake movement troops being mobilised to manipulate yet another opinion poll.

Typical pro-ending lies. Why don't you go visit IGN or one of the other paid-for lapdogs?

Who says that i'm "pro-ending". I'm pro-Truth.

I can link to multiple threads on this forum highlighting polls on sites such as GameFAQ, asking people to "correct" what the movement sees as incorrect figures. Some Hold The Line drones even worked out that they could vote multiple times by clearing their caches.

You are a minority. You just use underhanded tactics to make yourselves seem larger than you really are. It's grown past pathetic.

The link to your diatribe about how Shepard "should" be blonde in your sig when red won in a perfectly fair poll pretty much negates anything you have to say on the subject; it shows how you'll rail against ANY poll that doesn't go your way.  You know, not everything in life goes exactly the way you want it to.

Keep trolling, buddy.

Modifié par dbl219, 23 mars 2012 - 02:28 .

[DreamTension]

Everybody please ignore these statements. If that's their opinion, let them be.

Just vote on vocal minority. Just vote.

[majormajormmajor]

blacqout wrote...

You don't need to have played the game to have an opinion on this. It's kind of like Tali's trial in ME2. There is a larger issue at play. Is a developers right to their own intellectual property absolute, or is the customer always right.

now desperately reaching for the layman's opinion because most people who've played through ME3 (and thus would be informed on what it actually is) overwhelmingly hate the endings

[aliengmr1]

blacqout wrote...

majormajormmajor wrote...

Ha. Fecking 71%. 80 if we're counting the too bleak people.

Still a goddamned minority, huh?

blacqout wrote...

Yet another example of the Retake movement troops being mobilised to manipulate yet another opinion poll.

Typical pro-ending lies. Why don't you go visit IGN or one of the other paid-for lapdogs?

Who says that i'm "pro-ending". I'm pro-Truth.

I can link to multiple threads on this forum highlighting polls on sites such as GameFAQ, asking people to "correct" what the movement sees as incorrect figures. Some Hold The Line drones even worked out that they could vote multiple times by clearing their caches.

You are a minority. You just use underhanded tactics to make yourselves seem larger than you really are. It's grown past pathetic.

Pro-truth? Why doesn't biware come out and say NO? If we are such a minority then there isn't anything to worry about. They could have said No from the start.

[Kashola]

Basically what dbl219 said about the hair color poll. If this guy sees anything that doesn't go his way he will flip out and attack people on the internet.

Stay cool bro.

[RedNanaki]

Can we stop arguing about this in every single thread?

The majority of the Mass Effect fanbase hates the ending. This is an established fact, regardless of your personal opinion. Conspiracy much?