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[Syeron]

I'm sure we will be able to access the other extras as time progresses wherever you will around the world.

To start off with some people will have more than others but, I'm sure the creators havn't penalised those who don't get the extras at the start !

This game is likely to have "add-on " adventures anyway which probably will even everything up like, all the other games do.

I have pre-ordered from Amazon in the UK & will see what turns up.

[Korva]

I would like a clarification of this issue with the UK version, too. If the Stone Prisoner and the Blood Dragon Armor are indeed not included despite the statement that they would be part of every new retail copy, I will be immensely annoyed and definitely cancel my pre-order with Amazon.co.uk.

[death_knight250]

Am fairly sure more than a few Bio devs have said that it will be with every copy of dragon age. Can hardly see them not putting them in certain countries editions as that would alienate quite a large portion of the fanbase.

Modifié par death_knight250, 22 octobre 2009 - 12:44 .

[Desvergeh]

death_knight250 wrote...

Am fairly sure more than a few Bio devs have said that it will be with every copy of dragon age. Can hardly see them not putting them in certain countries editions as that would alienate quite a large portion of the fanbase.

Unfortunately two of the major stores in the UK (Amazon.co.uk and Game) have specifically responded to emails stating that Blood Dragon Armour and The Stone Prisoner are not included in UK standard editions of the game, only in the collectors edition.

This has understandably concerned a large number of us UK players, and there has not been a single response from EA or Bioware to clarify matters.

Even the EA store page for the UK displays the two DLC items as only being part of the DDE version of the game, and not the standard edition.

Call me paranoid, but seems to me that SE here in UK has not got them, and Bioware and EA are just putting off admitting to this for as long as possible.

[Illendil Carnesir]

Sansin wrote...

Have it all from the beginning...that's my motto, lol!

That's the way to go, that way you won't have to replay to get through to that part of the game, I'm not saying that this game won't have bunches replay options.  You just don't want to replay only to play the addon.

[death_knight250]

Yes i did jump the gun a bit with that post after reading the other topic. Though the silence does not necessarily mean anything. They are in all probability composing a response considering this has only recently blown into the response seen here.

There has been talk of it being a manufacturing fault, and that seems the most likely explanation. There are other ways to get those codes out to people.

That being said, if this does turn out the way people are thinking it is a very bad move. Alienating ANY part of your fanbase is never a good idea. I cant imagine the folks at Bioware are very happy with this possibility considering that they specifically stated it would be included in every new copy.

Modifié par death_knight250, 22 octobre 2009 - 01:18 .

[Xiphias]

death_knight250 wrote...

There has been talk of it being a manufacturing fault, and that seems the most likely explanation. There are other ways to get those codes out to people.   

The problem isn't that we (The UK) are not getting it, the problem is that we don't know if we're getting it. It's the different information from one retailer to another and the lack of any announcement as to whether it's supposed to be retailer specific, or, if not, whether we do or do not get it.

And I know some retailers in other countries aren't listing it, and if that was the case we'd probably take Bioware's word on it. However, some retailers here are explicitly saying or strongly implying it doesn't come with the normal version like Game and EA Store.

[Desvergeh]

Xiphias wrote...

death_knight250 wrote...

There has been talk of it being a manufacturing fault, and that seems the most likely explanation. There are other ways to get those codes out to people.   

The problem isn't that we (The UK) are not getting it, the problem is that we don't know if we're getting it. It's the different information from one retailer to another and the lack of any announcement as to whether it's supposed to be retailer specific, or, if not, whether we do or do not get it.

And I know some retailers in other countries aren't listing it, and if that was the case we'd probably take Bioware's word on it. However, some retailers here are explicitly saying or strongly implying it doesn't come with the normal version like Game and EA Store.

I'm thinking it is pretty definite we are not getting it as part of the SE here in the UK.

On the GAME website they list both items as part of the CE, but not as part of the SE.

On EA UK store page again both items are on the Deluxe Digital Edition, but not on the SE.

Other forum users have posted email responses from both Amazon.co.uk and GAME explicitly stating they are not included in the SE.

Furthermore EA have past form for exactly this kind of behaviour.

True there is no official response from EA or Bioware on this matter. I get the feeling they might be hoping it will all go away!


Does anyone know how much TSP is going to cost here in the UK? I have only found US prices. I don't really care much about the Dragon Armour, suspect it will only be useful for a short while. But the loss of a party member, who it could be argued should be not have been made DLC in the first place, is a pretty big deal.

[Desvergeh]

Edited for being wrong!
Fooled by EA store page redirecting me to UK site despite trying to go to US one.
I'm just going to shut up now

Modifié par Desvergeh, 22 octobre 2009 - 04:05 .

[Rodro Lliv]

Desvergeh wrote...

Just been checking various EA store pages.

TSP is not listed as part of SE of the game in UK, US or Australia.

So it could all come down to retailers being misinformed.

Some sort of EA/Bioware response would still do a hell of a lot to clarify things though.

This web eastore.ea.com/store/ea/ContentTheme/pbPage.DragonAge from the US EA store does list TSP as included in the SE.

The same web eastore.ea.com/store/eaemea/en_GB/ContentTheme/pbPage.dragonageuk from the UK EA store does list TSP as exclusive to CE.

So imo, Bioware should clarify if UK and other countries are getting a different deal.

[Syeron]

If you want everything it looks like the direct downloads are the only way you can be sure.

what is the track record of D2D like ? I feel reluctant to go for this without knowing if the customer service is good !...........Otherwise I will stick with Amazon standard edition & upgrade the extras before starting the game.

I think the costs will work out about the same.

[Xiphias]

Syeron wrote...

If you want everything it looks like the direct downloads are the only way you can be sure.

Hardly, if the UK isn't supposed to be getting it then when they find out they'll refund your order. Further, If this happens close to or on release day then you may have lost the chance to get the pre-order memory band and retailer specific item from somewhere else.

Unless you've got a voucher that's about to run out then it seems like the best way is to simply wait and see and leave your pre-order as late as possible (the weekend before the Friday release maybe?). If there's still no information by then you may want to spend the extra fiver for a Digital Distribution service.

If you do still want to go ahead and order now then I believe the three people explicitly listing TSP are GamersGate, Direct2Drive and Steam. I've not tried D2D but there seems to be quite a few complaints about their default DRM and customer service. Out of the other two I much preferred GamersGate when I tried them as it was very simple with just an installer file (like you'd get on a game demo) and no nasty propriety programs you had to install.

[SheffSteel]

Desvergeh wrote...

Edited for being wrong!
Fooled by EA store page redirecting me to UK site despite trying to go to US one.
I'm just going to shut up now

The reverse is also a problem: users in the US can't see the UK site.

[Korva]

You can view whichever version of the site you want if don't allow the site to execute scripts. But of course, you still couldn't order from any site but the one you're forced to.



*kicks EA store site* I seriously loathe redirects to German version pages.

[Fernando Melo]

We are still working on getting confirmation of what will be in the standard UK version.



We want this answered as much as you guys do, and provide you with accurate info.

[Syeron]

with Amazon doing the standad version at £24.99....without the add-on's, which will cost $29 (£18). The best deal is the Digital download at £39.95

btw does anyone know yet how big the Digital download is ? I presume it is 1 x DVD maximum in size, so, about 4.5 gig.

[Syeron]

Fernando Melo wrote...

We are still working on getting confirmation of what will be in the standard UK version.

We want this answered as much as you guys do, and provide you with accurate info.

Sooner the better !.......we in the UK are feeling very isolated  regarding what's going on regarding the retail DVD's available here.

[Xiphias]

Syeron wrote...

with Amazon doing the standad version at £24.99....without the add-on's, which will cost $29 (£18). The best deal is the Digital download at £39.95
btw does anyone know yet how big the Digital download is ? I presume it is 1 x DVD maximum in size, so, about 4.5 gig.

29USD? TSP is 15USD and WK is 7USD which comes to 23USD, what's the other 6USD for?

Dual-layer DVDs can hold up to 9GB so I would assume it's somewhere on the upper end of that for the download.

[SheffSteel]

Stanley ninjed it for us. TSP and Blood Armour will be included in standard boxes. Information updates should be trickling down from EA to distributors and retailers now.

[Syeron]

Xiphias wrote...

Syeron wrote...

with Amazon doing the standad version at £24.99....without the add-on's, which will cost $29 (£18). The best deal is the Digital download at £39.95
btw does anyone know yet how big the Digital download is ? I presume it is 1 x DVD maximum in size, so, about 4.5 gig.

29USD? TSP is 15USD and WK is 7USD which comes to 23USD, what's the other 6USD for?

Dual-layer DVDs can hold up to 9GB so I would assume it's somewhere on the upper end of that for the download.

 Yes...... you are right ,my mistake I was calculating a lot of different sites prices at the time. I much prefer to have a hard copy of the game on reflection so, will buy the SE & download the other stuff

[Syeron]

Final Reason ( In the CE pack )



"This staff was held by several senior master conjurers of the Circle Tower, passed down from old master to new. Errant students learned to fear it, for when all other forms of discipline failed, the Final Reason would produce obedience at the cost of significant pain and discomfort.

Placement: This is meant to be useable once the player is at 11+ level. It's price, like all the pre-order items, should be very reasonable. It's meant to be the best staff for the mid-levels of the game."



Stats: Adds to damage. Making it do as much as the Dragonbone staves. Adds considerably to spellpower. Adds a good chunk to fire damage.



This item which is in the CE looks pretty awsome. I can see why some people will prefer to go for this edition of the game, It definately gives some advantage to them !



Quote :- " It's price, like all the pre-order items, should be very reasonable.".........Hmmmm does this mean certain items can be bought outside the game after release off the website ???

[LankeyGit]

Finally an answer on the topic posted over on the DA Forums (http://daforums.biow...orum=135&sp=323)

Posted 10/23/09 16:42 (GMT) by Stanley Woo

UPDATE:

Hi, everyone. I received a response this morning from DA producer, Fernando Melo, who's been working like crazy to get this cleared up. Thanks to Fernando and Jason Leong for kicking this issue further up the chain.

From what information we've been given, it looks like all versions of the game in the UK--digital download, retail box, collector's edition and standard edition--will have both the Blood Dragon Armour and The Stone Prisoner.

This appears to be a simple miscommunication with some retail sites. EA is now working to correct this misunderstanding by fixing the information on the EA Store and asking retail sites to change the information they have as soon as they can.

Thank you all for bringing this to our attention. We hope this alleviates your concerns regarding the UK versions of Dragon Age Origins.

Remember to stay tuned for the big DA announcement in just a little while!

[deleterguy]

I hope the blood dragon set and the stone prisoner are included in the Belgium version aswell.

[Syeron]

Does anyone know if there is a manual with either the CE or SE retail box ? I can't find any mention of it in the info I've read so far.

The UK versions of CE don't have the map as in the US version I know

[Rikaze]

Desvergeh wrote...

Xiphias wrote...

death_knight250 wrote...

There has been talk of it being a manufacturing fault, and that seems the most likely explanation. There are other ways to get those codes out to people.   

The problem isn't that we (The UK) are not getting it, the problem is that we don't know if we're getting it. It's the different information from one retailer to another and the lack of any announcement as to whether it's supposed to be retailer specific, or, if not, whether we do or do not get it.

And I know some retailers in other countries aren't listing it, and if that was the case we'd probably take Bioware's word on it. However, some retailers here are explicitly saying or strongly implying it doesn't come with the normal version like Game and EA Store.

I'm thinking it is pretty definite we are not getting it as part of the SE here in the UK.

On the GAME website they list both items as part of the CE, but not as part of the SE.

On EA UK store page again both items are on the Deluxe Digital Edition, but not on the SE.

Other forum users have posted email responses from both Amazon.co.uk and GAME explicitly stating they are not included in the SE.

Furthermore EA have past form for exactly this kind of behaviour.

True there is no official response from EA or Bioware on this matter. I get the feeling they might be hoping it will all go away!


Does anyone know how much TSP is going to cost here in the UK? I have only found US prices. I don't really care much about the Dragon Armour, suspect it will only be useful for a short while. But the loss of a party member, who it could be argued should be not have been made DLC in the first place, is a pretty big deal.

Seems the reputation EA's garnered for being...  Unreliable at times, has led all the UK fans to sweat a little.
At least you guys got the correct info now though...  Honestly, I'm surprised it was the UK-side of things that had the misunderstanding...  Where I live, misunderstanding seems to be the only thing people understand...  (As much as you can understand misunderstanding, anyway...)
I guess it's safe to say EA and BioWare weren't giving a response because, when they realized what was going on, they must've been flooding phone lines and yelling at middle management types wondering what was going on with that, double-checking if they included DLC with -every- new copy, etc etc, and just forgot to inform some of us consumers.  (Though not all, apparently.  The info -did- get back here and alleviate the worries of most affected by it.)
All's well that ends well.