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[Vovea]

"Saren has locked the elevator! Suit up, we're going outside."

Modifié par Vovea, 23 mars 2012 - 03:40 .

[dreman9999]

blah64 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Dusty Arne wrote...

You guys should read the mass effect field codex... this explains it all

Go back and play the end of ME1...Take note that the arms a closed and you still have to wear a helmat.

You know.....I had totally discounted the breathing thing because of mass effect fields. And then I read this.......Darnit BW, did you even play your own games?

There is an explination for this....

[Excalceo]

dreman9999 wrote...

Excalceo wrote...

 I compiled this together for a friend of mine recently.  Somewhat relevant to the current topic, but it pretty much addresses everything wrong with Shepard surviving after the destroy ending.

Scenario A)
Shepard somehow survived the explosion of Citadel and the Mass Relays.  The Catalyst explicitly stated that choosing to destroy the Reapers would also destroy the cybernetics inside his body, cybernetics that are 100% essential to Shepard's survival.  Shepard goes into complete system failure, subsequently killing him.

Scenario
The Catalyst was wrong about the cybernetics or whatever and Shepard is still alive.  Shepard is now floating in the cold vaccum of space without an airtight suit on.  Setting aside the fact he won't be able to breathe and will suffocate, he will still be frozen solid and/or explode in a matter of seconds, subsequently killing him.

Scenario C)
The laws of space no longer apply for some reason.  Shepard is now reentering Earth's atmosphere...entire meteors made of hard rock and metal often don't survive reentry, neither should Shepard who is made of squishy flesh and bone.  Shepard is vaporized in minutes, subsequently killing him.

Scenario D)
Everything we've been told about how our world works is a lie, surely the emutible law of gravity is still valid?  Shepard is now falling hundreds of thousands of miles at terminal velocity toward the hard ground below...which he will eventually hit, which will subsequently kill him.

Scenario E)
Basic laws of science and reason don't exist anymore.  Shepard lives...but at what cost?

Scenario f)
 

Well yeah...just explaining why Shepard surviving is an absolute impossiblity outside of the Indoctrination Theory.

[Jaze55]

Anyway to answer the question as to WHY there would even be a ME field.

Since the KEEPERS are in charge of keeping EVERYTHING in the Citadel running, you can safely assume they also kept that area in shape. They need to breath. They also need an atmosphere when they are working there or they would get sucked out into space.

Again, this really isn't some great mystery.

[shumworld]

Whose to say that the area of the citidel/crucible had a artificial atmosphere to breath in.

[dreman9999]

CavScout wrote...

Zardoc wrote...

Dusty Arne wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Dusty Arne wrote...

You guys should read the mass effect field codex... this explains it all

Go back and play the end of ME1...Take note that the arms a closed and you still have to wear a helmat.

Here you are walking on the   "outside " of the elevator shaft.. That is why you need your helmet...

You didn't really disprove his point. Shepard needs a helmet and full armor just because he's walking on the outside of an elevator shaft inside the Citadel, but doesn't need all that on the outside of the Citadel in open space. 


FUCK LOGIC

At the end of ME2 interior parts of the ship were "exposed" to open space. We didn't need a suit then either. Think about why.

They had mass effect feilds up to keep the air in at the end of Mass effect 2.

[Dusty Arne]

Vovea wrote...

"Saren has locked the elevator! Suit up, we're going outside."

This indeed..

[Jaze55]

MassEffected555 wrote...

Anyway to answer the question as to WHY there would even be a ME field.

Since the KEEPERS are in charge of keeping EVERYTHING in the Citadel running, you can safely assume they also kept that area in shape. They need to breath. They also need an atmosphere when they are working there or they would get sucked out into space.

Again, this really isn't some great mystery.

This is the answer here.

Again if you pay attention to the games it says the Keepers take care of the Citadel. Keepers need to breathe. End of story. 

[dreman9999]

LegendaryBlade wrote...

Considering how many of the female squadmates walk around in a vacuum with only a face mask on in ME2, **** like this I immediately overlook.

There never in a vacuum in those scenes.

[Dusty Arne]

When the Normandy got blowup in ME2 in the beginning, you did need your helmet.. since there the Mass Effect fields where destroyed. except for in the cockpit.. Joker had locked it down with a mass effect field so he wouldn't blow out in open space..

[lokiarchetype]

CRISIS1717 wrote...

the fact there is gravity in that area should give you a hint Shep and Anderson are not in space.

Wait, isn't that like saying "Stop saying it's inconsistent that he's breathing in space, the fact that he's breathing means he's not in space"

[dreman9999]

MassEffected555 wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

Anyway to answer the question as to WHY there would even be a ME field.

Since the KEEPERS are in charge of keeping EVERYTHING in the Citadel running, you can safely assume they also kept that area in shape. They need to breath. They also need an atmosphere when they are working there or they would get sucked out into space.

Again, this really isn't some great mystery.

This is the answer here.

Again if you pay attention to the games it says the Keepers take care of the Citadel. Keepers need to breathe. End of story. 

With that logic, we would not of need  to wear helmets in the end of ME1....That and the station blew up...Meaning any system the makes Mass effect feilds would be too damaged to work.

[Zardoc]

MassEffected555 wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

Anyway to answer the question as to WHY there would even be a ME field.

Since the KEEPERS are in charge of keeping EVERYTHING in the Citadel running, you can safely assume they also kept that area in shape. They need to breath. They also need an atmosphere when they are working there or they would get sucked out into space.

Again, this really isn't some great mystery.

This is the answer here.

Again if you pay attention to the games it says the Keepers take care of the Citadel. Keepers need to breathe. End of story. 

That doesn't explain ****. ME1, elevator at the the end, you are INSIDE the closed Citadel and still need your full armor+helmet to survive. At the end of ME3 you are standing on the outside, exposed directly to open space, without any protection at all and don't die due to exposure to vacuum.


Again, FUCK LOGIC.

[Dusty Arne]

Also, when you dock in the citadel in ME2, you see the normandy fly through a sort of shield everytime..

this is the mass effect field that keeps the vacuum of space outside, and the breatheble air inside..

[shinobi602]

Dusty Arne wrote...

You guys should read the mass effect field codex... this explains it all

But the Citadel blows up...there is nothing to generate any mass effect fields anymore.....

[Paragon Auducan]

It's a completely open space, it's where the Citadel and the Crucible meet. If the 'membrane' was activated up there then how did they join two completely separate objects? Same way a shield deflects bullets.

[NM_Che56]

dreman9999 wrote...

Master Che wrote...

1. If the rubble/breathing scene is not in space, then that lends credence to the Indoctrination Theory.

2. The Citadel didn't completely blow up. So there's a chance there is breathable air there.

The power of the explotion would destroy any mass effect feild genorators so....There would not bea way for him to breaht in space.

So why didn't the soldiers get the ****e blasted out of them from behind the cover (the hip hip hooray the reapers are dead fist pump scene)...?  What if it didn't blow the whole canopy off of the citadel's arms and just a few sections of it, excluding certain sections.

The video doesn't really confirm one way or another.

This, of course, would be irrespective of indoctrination, which I'm starting to agree with.

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

Maybe the Catalyst sent shepard back through the conduit after he destroyed the reactor?

[dreman9999]

Dusty Arne wrote...

Also, when you dock in the citadel in ME2, you see the normandy fly through a sort of shield everytime..

this is the mass effect field that keeps the vacuum of space outside, and the breatheble air inside..

1. End of ME1....Space walk.

2.Station blows up...stations mass effect genoraters become destroyed.

[dreman9999]

Doctor_Jackstraw wrote...

Maybe the Catalyst sent shepard back through the conduit after he destroyed the reactor?

......What type of logic is this?

[Dusty Arne]

Paragon Auducan wrote...

It's a completely open space, it's where the Citadel and the Crucible meet. If the 'membrane' was activated up there then how did they join two completely separate objects? Same way a shield deflects bullets.

same why a Spaceshuttle docks to the ISS, or a rescue submarine docks to a Supmarine.. Airlocks, vents, i dont know what kind of stuff they use..


In real, of course it aint possible, but in the Mass Effect Universe, with all the Mass Effect field they can make, it is.

[CavScout]

Zardoc wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

Anyway to answer the question as to WHY there would even be a ME field.

Since the KEEPERS are in charge of keeping EVERYTHING in the Citadel running, you can safely assume they also kept that area in shape. They need to breath. They also need an atmosphere when they are working there or they would get sucked out into space.

Again, this really isn't some great mystery.

This is the answer here.

Again if you pay attention to the games it says the Keepers take care of the Citadel. Keepers need to breathe. End of story. 

That doesn't explain ****. ME1, elevator at the the end, you are INSIDE the closed Citadel and still need your full armor+helmet to survive. At the end of ME3 you are standing on the outside, exposed directly to open space, without any protection at all and don't die due to exposure to vacuum.


Again, FUCK LOGIC.

You're presuming exposure to open space. It is unwise to invoke logic while doing away with any pretense of using it yourself.

[Evil_medved]

If we were talking about Grunt, i wouldn't be surprised to see him survive fall from orbit. Shepard on the other hand,,,

[dreman9999]

Master Che wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Master Che wrote...

1. If the rubble/breathing scene is not in space, then that lends credence to the Indoctrination Theory.

2. The Citadel didn't completely blow up. So there's a chance there is breathable air there.

The power of the explotion would destroy any mass effect feild genorators so....There would not bea way for him to breaht in space.

So why didn't the soldiers get the ****e blasted out of them from behind the cover (the hip hip hooray the reapers are dead fist pump scene)...?  What if it didn't blow the whole canopy off of the citadel's arms and just a few sections of it, excluding certain sections.

The video doesn't really confirm one way or another.

This, of course, would be irrespective of indoctrination, which I'm starting to agree with.

Have you not seen me post the indoctrination theory video's through ou this topic. It's even in  my sig.

[shinobi602]

dreman9999 wrote...

Doctor_Jackstraw wrote...

Maybe the Catalyst sent shepard back through the conduit after he destroyed the reactor?

......What type of logic is this?

Magic logic.