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[Carlthestrange]

I'm always good at doing one thng - Speculating huge plotholes.

[dreman9999]

CavScout wrote...

Zardoc wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

Anyway to answer the question as to WHY there would even be a ME field.

Since the KEEPERS are in charge of keeping EVERYTHING in the Citadel running, you can safely assume they also kept that area in shape. They need to breath. They also need an atmosphere when they are working there or they would get sucked out into space.

Again, this really isn't some great mystery.

This is the answer here.

Again if you pay attention to the games it says the Keepers take care of the Citadel. Keepers need to breathe. End of story. 

That doesn't explain ****. ME1, elevator at the the end, you are INSIDE the closed Citadel and still need your full armor+helmet to survive. At the end of ME3 you are standing on the outside, exposed directly to open space, without any protection at all and don't die due to exposure to vacuum.


Again, FUCK LOGIC.

You're presuming exposure to open space. It is unwise to invoke logic while doing away with any pretense of using it yourself.

the station blows up and your on the out side near the curcible..How can you not see this.

[dreman9999]

shinobi602 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Doctor_Jackstraw wrote...

Maybe the Catalyst sent shepard back through the conduit after he destroyed the reactor?

......What type of logic is this?

Magic logic.

I'll stick  to real logic....

[Amaranthy]

Everyone needs to play ME 1 again. Proceed to the docking area where your Normandy is, then look at the edges of the docking bay and see a forcefield there that keeps the whole area pressurized.

Hope this solves everything for you guys/girls.

[Ravenmyste]

lol.. justLOL

[Jaze55]

dreman9999 wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Doctor_Jackstraw wrote...

Maybe the Catalyst sent shepard back through the conduit after he destroyed the reactor?

......What type of logic is this?

Magic logic.

I'll stick  to real logic....

LOL this guy has posted the link to the Indoc Theory 11 times now in this single thread alone.

[CavScout]

dreman9999 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

Zardoc wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

Anyway to answer the question as to WHY there would even be a ME field.

Since the KEEPERS are in charge of keeping EVERYTHING in the Citadel running, you can safely assume they also kept that area in shape. They need to breath. They also need an atmosphere when they are working there or they would get sucked out into space.

Again, this really isn't some great mystery.

This is the answer here.

Again if you pay attention to the games it says the Keepers take care of the Citadel. Keepers need to breathe. End of story. 

That doesn't explain ****. ME1, elevator at the the end, you are INSIDE the closed Citadel and still need your full armor+helmet to survive. At the end of ME3 you are standing on the outside, exposed directly to open space, without any protection at all and don't die due to exposure to vacuum.


Again, FUCK LOGIC.

You're presuming exposure to open space. It is unwise to invoke logic while doing away with any pretense of using it yourself.

the station blows up and your on the out side near the curcible..How can you not see this.

The scenes in question are before the Citadel starts to blow-up.

[Twisted and Mean]

What are you talking about people? Shepard was walking around on the hull between the Citadel and the Crucible. There's no way he'd be able to breathe there, because there is absolutely nothing to breathe. So it's either space magic or extremely sloppy and careless design.

Well, at least it causes a lot of "speculation".

[Jaze55]

Answer me this riddle

At the end of ME1 after Sovy pieces blast through the Citadel. It breaks through the wall right? Leaving a direct hole to space.

OMG How come everyone didn't get sucked out into space right there? I guess it was ALL a dream since ME1 amiright?

[Jaze55]

Twisted and Mean wrote...

What are you talking about people? Shepard was walking around on the hull between the Citadel and the Crucible. There's no way he'd be able to breathe there, because there is absolutely nothing to breathe. So it's either space magic or extremely sloppy and careless design.

Well, at least it causes a lot of "speculation".

OR you can just use reasoning and understand that since they explained it in the Wards codex that they don't need to write a Codex for every single inch of the Citadel????

[shinobi602]

dreman9999 wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Doctor_Jackstraw wrote...

Maybe the Catalyst sent shepard back through the conduit after he destroyed the reactor?

......What type of logic is this?

Magic logic.

I'll stick  to real logic....

You don't have to keep linking that, I've seen it before. I lean more towards believing it.

[dreman9999]

CavScout wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

Zardoc wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

Anyway to answer the question as to WHY there would even be a ME field.

Since the KEEPERS are in charge of keeping EVERYTHING in the Citadel running, you can safely assume they also kept that area in shape. They need to breath. They also need an atmosphere when they are working there or they would get sucked out into space.

Again, this really isn't some great mystery.

This is the answer here.

Again if you pay attention to the games it says the Keepers take care of the Citadel. Keepers need to breathe. End of story. 

That doesn't explain ****. ME1, elevator at the the end, you are INSIDE the closed Citadel and still need your full armor+helmet to survive. At the end of ME3 you are standing on the outside, exposed directly to open space, without any protection at all and don't die due to exposure to vacuum.


Again, FUCK LOGIC.

You're presuming exposure to open space. It is unwise to invoke logic while doing away with any pretense of using it yourself.

the station blows up and your on the out side near the curcible..How can you not see this.

The scenes in question are before the Citadel starts to blow-up.

Even then it at the outside of the station under the place we need to wear helmets during ME1...... He would not be able to breath.

[shinobi602]

Amaranthy wrote...

Everyone needs to play ME 1 again. Proceed to the docking area where your Normandy is, then look at the edges of the docking bay and see a forcefield there that keeps the whole area pressurized.

Hope this solves everything for you guys/girls.

Not really since...you know, the Citadel blows into pieces and Shepard is at the center of the blast?

Modifié par shinobi602, 23 mars 2012 - 04:02 .

[dreman9999]

MassEffected555 wrote...

Answer me this riddle

At the end of ME1 after Sovy pieces blast through the Citadel. It breaks through the wall right? Leaving a direct hole to space.

OMG How come everyone didn't get sucked out into space right there? I guess it was ALL a dream since ME1 amiright?

Because the citidel buildings have center mass effect feilds. Add in the fat that any whole would be closed up with Mass effect feilds.

[dreman9999]

MassEffected555 wrote...

Twisted and Mean wrote...

What are you talking about people? Shepard was walking around on the hull between the Citadel and the Crucible. There's no way he'd be able to breathe there, because there is absolutely nothing to breathe. So it's either space magic or extremely sloppy and careless design.

Well, at least it causes a lot of "speculation".

OR you can just use reasoning and understand that since they explained it in the Wards codex that they don't need to write a Codex for every single inch of the Citadel????

Ending of ME1...

[CavScout]

[quote]dreman9999 wrote...

[quote]CavScout wrote...

You're presuming exposure to open space. It is unwise to invoke logic while doing away with any pretense of using it yourself.

[/quote]the station blows up and your on the out side near the curcible..How can you not see this.
[/quote]

The scenes in question are before the Citadel starts to blow-up.

[/quote]Even then it at the outside of the station under the place we need to wear helmets during ME1...... He would not be able to breath.
[/quote]

The problem with conspiracy theorists is that every time you debunk a point, they just jump to another one. Remember why you had to wear a helmet in ME1. The last place we fought in ME1 we didn't need a helmet...

[dreman9999]

MassEffected555 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Doctor_Jackstraw wrote...

Maybe the Catalyst sent shepard back through the conduit after he destroyed the reactor?

......What type of logic is this?

Magic logic.

I'll stick  to real logic....

LOL this guy has posted the link to the Indoc Theory 11 times now in this single thread alone.

..And it makes the most sense.More then you are.

[Amaranthy]

shinobi602 wrote...

Amaranthy wrote...

Everyone needs to play ME 1 again. Proceed to the docking area where your Normandy is, then look at the edges of the docking bay and see a forcefield there that keeps the whole area pressurized.

Hope this solves everything for you guys/girls.

Not really since...you know, the Citadel blows into pieces and Shepard is at the center of the blast?

I don't get how people see the Citadel blowing into pieces, I did not see any scene where the Citadel parts get torn off or anything. It shows explosions, probably debris hitting the Citadel. It's just flames going up into space, it doesn't show the extent of damage the Citadel was getting.

Also, you can see the same forcefield at the start of ME 2 when your ship gets attacked. Right before the cockpit, there's a forcefield that kept the room pressurized.

And again, I have to ask where do people see the Citadel getting destroyed? Yes, there's explosions going on but it does not get BLOWN INTO PIECES.

Modifié par Amaranthy, 23 mars 2012 - 04:07 .

[Twisted and Mean]

MassEffected555 wrote...

Twisted and Mean wrote...

What are you talking about people? Shepard was walking around on the hull between the Citadel and the Crucible. There's no way he'd be able to breathe there, because there is absolutely nothing to breathe. So it's either space magic or extremely sloppy and careless design.

Well, at least it causes a lot of "speculation".

OR you can just use reasoning and understand that since they explained it in the Wards codex that they don't need to write a Codex for every single inch of the Citadel????

Unlike the hull of a huge space station Wards are supposed to be inhabitable. There is no imaginable reason why someone would even think of keeping the outer surface of the hull pressurised with layers of gas and mass effect fields.

[CRISIS1717]

What is hard to get? they can breathe, there is gravity, naturally the most logical conclusion is a barrier.

[Aurvant]

The Citadel (and the Crucible) exploded above the Earth. The place where Shepard was located was at the very CENTER OF ALL OF IT. Shepard could not have survived it, so the breathing scene makes no sense.

Shepard is not superman.

Also, as for the idea that maybe the Citadel is somehow intact? No, no, no. We see it explode AMD all of its "flower petals" we're completely ripped apart in the blast. Those petals connect to the central ring where the wards are. Those are torn completely apart.

Either Shepard is still on Earth or we're expected to completely abandon all logical sense in order to comprehend that ending.

[Jaze55]

Amaranthy wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Amaranthy wrote...

Everyone needs to play ME 1 again. Proceed to the docking area where your Normandy is, then look at the edges of the docking bay and see a forcefield there that keeps the whole area pressurized.

Hope this solves everything for you guys/girls.

Not really since...you know, the Citadel blows into pieces and Shepard is at the center of the blast?

I don't get how people see the Citadel blowing into pieces, I did not see any scene where the Citadel parts get torn off or anything. It shows explosions, probably debris hitting the Citadel. It's just flames going up into space, it doesn't show the extent of damage the Citadel was getting.

Also, you can see the same forcefield at the start of ME 2 when your ship gets attacked. Right before the cockpit, there's a forcefield that kept the room pressurized.

I said it before. The KEEPERS are in charge of keeping the Citadel running. In ME1 it is explained that NO ONE knows where the Keepers come from OR what they do. They need to breathe and they need atmosphere.

Since the Keepers are assumed to be one of the 1st races the REAPERS made slaves it is pretty reasonable they they took care of the Reapes master up there. In order to work in that part they would in fact need to breathe and they would need an atmosphere or they would be sucked out into space.

Pretty dam simple. 

[dreman9999]

[quote]CavScout wrote...

[quote]dreman9999 wrote...

[quote]CavScout wrote...

You're presuming exposure to open space. It is unwise to invoke logic while doing away with any pretense of using it yourself.

[/quote]the station blows up and your on the out side near the curcible..How can you not see this.
[/quote]

The scenes in question are before the Citadel starts to blow-up.

[/quote]Even then it at the outside of the station under the place we need to wear helmets during ME1...... He would not be able to breath.
[/quote]

The problem with conspiracy theorists is that every time you debunk a point, they just jump to another one. Remember why you had to wear a helmet in ME1. The last place we fought in ME1 we didn't need a helmet...[/quote]
1. The part where you talking to the star child is under the citedel tower on the outside of the station.
2. At that point the arms are open to let the crusible in.
3.The last time we were at the outside of that area of the citedl tower, we had to wear a helmet...And that was which the arms were closed.

......
There is no air in that scene to breath.....

[jkflipflopDAO]

Amaranthy wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Amaranthy wrote...

Everyone needs to play ME 1 again. Proceed to the docking area where your Normandy is, then look at the edges of the docking bay and see a forcefield there that keeps the whole area pressurized.

Hope this solves everything for you guys/girls.

Not really since...you know, the Citadel blows into pieces and Shepard is at the center of the blast?

I don't get how people see the Citadel blowing into pieces, I did not see any scene where the Citadel parts get torn off or anything. It shows explosions, probably debris hitting the Citadel. It's just flames going up into space, it doesn't show the extent of damage the Citadel was getting.

Also, you can see the same forcefield at the start of ME 2 when your ship gets attacked. Right before the cockpit, there's a forcefield that kept the room pressurized.

And again, I have to ask where do people see the Citadel getting destroyed? Yes, there's explosions going on but it does not get BLOWN INTO PIECES.

It gets blow into scrap. The presidium ring in chunks and the arms flying away into space.

[shinobi602]

Amaranthy wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Amaranthy wrote...

Everyone needs to play ME 1 again. Proceed to the docking area where your Normandy is, then look at the edges of the docking bay and see a forcefield there that keeps the whole area pressurized.

Hope this solves everything for you guys/girls.

Not really since...you know, the Citadel blows into pieces and Shepard is at the center of the blast?

I don't get how people see the Citadel blowing into pieces, I did not see any scene where the Citadel parts get torn off or anything. It shows explosions, probably debris hitting the Citadel. It's just flames going up into space, it doesn't show the extent of damage the Citadel was getting.

Also, you can see the same forcefield at the start of ME 2 when your ship gets attacked. Right before the cockpit, there's a forcefield that kept the room pressurized.

And again, I have to ask where do people see the Citadel getting destroyed? Yes, there's explosions going on but it does not get BLOWN INTO PIECES.

1:45 to 1:50 here:



You can see the Citadel arms collapsing.