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Amaranthy wrote...

Look at the scene again after the explosion dissapears, the main ring is still there.


Much like a building is still there after a fireball goes through it.
This doesn't change the fact that it's structurally compromised and everybody inside that area would have been fried.

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Amaranthy wrote...

We are grasping at straws here. The main thing is that Shepard did in fact, somehow survive after all those explosions.


With space magic.

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dreman9999 wrote...

Twisted and Mean wrote...

Amaranthy wrote...

Twisted and Mean wrote...

Amaranthy wrote...

The final scene where Shepard breathes shows him surviving. I don't know how that happened but it did happen, lol.

Except there's no way to tell if it's really Shepard. There is also no logical explanation how he could have survived the whole Citadel blowing up on him.

But guess what, even if he did survive the explosion it won't be long. The crashlanding will definitely get him. That is if he doesn't just float away into deep space, where he will simply die of dehydration.


If you play a male Shepard, you hear a man's voice when he inhales, if you play a female Shepard, you hear a woman's voicewhen she inhales.


Which, I guess, undeniably means that Shepard can enter a planet's atmosphere without even a spacesuit on and survive the crash. Or that he can survive in space for an indefinite amount of time by sheer willpower. Oh, wait... it doesn't.

Or maybe....
 


This video is becoming the Rick Roll of Mass Effect.

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Sion1138 wrote...

Still has to fall from orbit. I repeat, from orbit.


The assumption is that he made it back to the beam or is still on the Citadel.  The Citadel doesn't disintergrate.  

Modifié par Capeo, 23 mars 2012 - 04:30 .


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The Angry One wrote...

Amaranthy wrote...

Look at the scene again after the explosion dissapears, the main ring is still there.


Much like a building is still there after a fireball goes through it.
This doesn't change the fact that it's structurally compromised and everybody inside that area would have been fried.


Miranda will reconstruct him, don't worry but this time with the controllable implant because I was mean to her.

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Twisted and Mean wrote...
Except there's no way to tell if it's really Shepard. There is also no logical explanation how he could have survived the whole Citadel blowing up on him.

But guess what, even if he did survive the explosion it won't be long. The crashlanding will definitely get him. That is if he doesn't just float away into deep space, where he will simply die of dehydration.


........come on, it's obvious that it's Shepard. Would they really show that significant tease if it's just some random soldier? If the big N7 tags right in your face aren't a blatant hint, I don't know what is.

The point is that it IS Shepard and makes no damn sense.

Modifié par shinobi602, 23 mars 2012 - 04:32 .


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dreman9999 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...]No one is saying the citidel blewup to peices. We're just saying the expotions you see at the end would be strong enough to destroy any Mass efect feild genorator.Add in th fact that Shep is on the out side, meaning he would of been shot out into space.


This is extreme supposition. The Normandy (ME2)is getting ravaged and can still maintain mass effect fields. You can not just claim to know when and where the shields would be possible and when they would not.

The normady was in working shape  and is a battle ship. And it never got anywere close to the level  of destroction the citdel gets.
Add in the fact that Shep is on the out side of the station. Remeber the last level of ME1 at the side of the citdel...One strong blow could through something as Heavy asa Krogan and a geth prime out of the statios gravity pull on the oust side...And you think Shepard would stay at the same spot on the outside end of the citdel as it blows up at alevel strong enough to warp the arms?


The Normandy was destroyed.... and again you are presuming more redundancy in the Normandy than in the Citadel.I would presume more in the Citadel were millions of people lived.

And you're fixated on this outside hull thing... I don't know why.

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I just wondered...why don't the Reapers just turn the air off? Wouldn't that kill everybody much quicker? Though I think their victims need to be alive to make Reapers.

Never mind...

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Well considering in ME2 two we see ME field covering the holes in the Normandy while allowing a breathable atmosphere I guess the citadel could do that too. As for Shep landing on Earth alive? I guess Red space magic kills Grim Reapers as well...

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It's obviously meant to be Shepard. That's a fact.
The only issue here is that it makes no sense, there's no possible way for it to be the Citadel, and no possible way Shepard could've survived re-entry.
Unless a space wizard did it.

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Jamie9 wrote...

I just wondered...why don't the Reapers just turn the air off? Wouldn't that kill everybody much quicker? Though I think their victims need to be alive to make Reapers.

Never mind...


The Reapers didn't have enough computing power. Harbringer ran out of memory to process all those plotholes.

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MissMaster_2 wrote...

Sion1138 wrote...

Still has to fall from orbit. I repeat, from orbit.


This. This, THIS!!!:wizard:



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CavScout wrote...

The Normandy was destroyed.... and again you are presuming more redundancy in the Normandy than in the Citadel.I would presume more in the Citadel were millions of people lived.

And you're fixated on this outside hull thing... I don't know why.


So you think a giant fireball, multiple explosions and the wards clearly beginning to buckle and move are signs of everything being a-ok?

Modifié par The Angry One, 23 mars 2012 - 04:33 .


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Amaranthy wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Twisted and Mean wrote...

Amaranthy wrote...

Twisted and Mean wrote...

Amaranthy wrote...

The final scene where Shepard breathes shows him surviving. I don't know how that happened but it did happen, lol.

Except there's no way to tell if it's really Shepard. There is also no logical explanation how he could have survived the whole Citadel blowing up on him.

But guess what, even if he did survive the explosion it won't be long. The crashlanding will definitely get him. That is if he doesn't just float away into deep space, where he will simply die of dehydration.


If you play a male Shepard, you hear a man's voice when he inhales, if you play a female Shepard, you hear a woman's voicewhen she inhales.


Which, I guess, undeniably means that Shepard can enter a planet's atmosphere without even a spacesuit on and survive the crash. Or that he can survive in space for an indefinite amount of time by sheer willpower. Oh, wait... it doesn't.

Or maybe....
 


This video is becoming the Rick Roll of Mass Effect.

It make more sense then Shepars ome how seviving the explosion of the citadel while being on the outside and not being shot out to space.=]

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justafan wrote...

Well considering in ME2 two we see ME field covering the holes in the Normandy while allowing a breathable atmosphere I guess the citadel could do that too. As for Shep landing on Earth alive? I guess Red space magic kills Grim Reapers as well...

Take some time to reamaber the end of ME1 before you meet Seran....You'll find a hole in your theory.

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The Angry One wrote...

It's obviously meant to be Shepard. That's a fact.
The only issue here is that it makes no sense, there's no possible way for it to be the Citadel, and no possible way Shepard could've survived re-entry.
Unless a space wizard did it.

Look at my sig.

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Can I point out the initial area around the citadel the reapers nearby get vaporized by the shockwave from the cucible? Would anyone care to explain how a meatbag like shepard could survive something that destroys reapers?

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The Angry One wrote...

It's obviously meant to be Shepard. That's a fact.
The only issue here is that it makes no sense, there's no possible way for it to be the Citadel, and no possible way Shepard could've survived re-entry.
Unless a space wizard did it.


It's quite possible it is the Citadel.  The Citadel does not disintergrate.  The largest explosion shown is the Crucible itself because in the Destroy ending you make it malfunction.  It was not designed to destroy the Reapers.

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dreman9999 wrote...

Have you not seen me post the indoctrination theory video's through ou this topic. It's even in  my sig.


Only for the sake of this argument, i'm dismissing that theory (though I actually am starting to be indoctrinated to it).

Modifié par Master Che, 23 mars 2012 - 04:38 .


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I just assumed it was some type of kinetic barrier. If not then its indoctrination

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dreman9999 wrote...

justafan wrote...

Well considering in ME2 two we see ME field covering the holes in the Normandy while allowing a breathable atmosphere I guess the citadel could do that too. As for Shep landing on Earth alive? I guess Red space magic kills Grim Reapers as well...

Take some time to reamaber the end of ME1 before you meet Seran....You'll find a hole in your theory.


No, they won't because Shepard is never outside of the Citadel in the end.  Ever.  They are in a chamber, likely under the tower.

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CRISIS1717 wrote...

 They are in a breathable atmosphere, nobody knows how or why but the fact there is gravity in that area should give you a hint Shep and Anderson are not in space. 

Stop saying they are in space. If you want an answer than just belive the Protheans added that part to the design of the crucible because it would be pretty darn inconvenient to use the crucible while in a space suit and floating around.

I hope Bioware put in the shimmer of a barrier in later so people stop saying they are in space, laaaaaawwwwwdddd!

[To clarify: I am talking about the part before the activation of the Crucible not the Shep breathing scene after]


I hate to nitpick when I agree with the core message (it's a stupid argument that shepard can't breath, if at all, it's a small concession for the sake of emotion, it'd be hard to see the face of shepard with a stupid helmet on). However, the catalyst hadn't docked when the arms opened. Yet, Shep and Anderson were still talking and breathing.

I'm going to say that the mass effect field is keeping an atmosphere where they are standing. Of all my problems with the ending, this is peanuts. For **** sake, there's no sound in space either, do you guys want to take that out too?

Modifié par Lugaidster, 23 mars 2012 - 04:39 .


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he doesnt need to breath 'cos he's already dead by this point.
:o

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Capeo wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

It's obviously meant to be Shepard. That's a fact.
The only issue here is that it makes no sense, there's no possible way for it to be the Citadel, and no possible way Shepard could've survived re-entry.
Unless a space wizard did it.


It's quite possible it is the Citadel.  The Citadel does not disintergrate.  The largest explosion shown is the Crucible itself because in the Destroy ending you make it malfunction.  It was not designed to destroy the Reapers.


a) There is no concrete on the Citadel
B) Shepard was on the outside surface of the Citadel at the time
c) The core was consumed by a fireball the size of the entire Presidium
d) It started to break apart.

It is NOT the Citadel.
Let's assume for a moment that the fireball is entirely the Crucible's. Okay.
Guess what is right above Shepard in the Catalyst scene. I'll give you 3 guesses, coloured red green and blue.

Modifié par The Angry One, 23 mars 2012 - 04:42 .


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dreman9999 wrote...

justafan wrote...

Well considering in ME2 two we see ME field covering the holes in the Normandy while allowing a breathable atmosphere I guess the citadel could do that too. As for Shep landing on Earth alive? I guess Red space magic kills Grim Reapers as well...

Take some time to reamaber the end of ME1 before you meet Seran....You'll find a hole in your theory.


You are misremembering the end of ME1. I just can't tell if you are doing it intentionally or not.