CavScout wrote...
I am looking outside right now... yet I am not outside.
They can see into space. It doesn't mean they are exposed to space....
Capeo wrote...
Just watched it a second ago. Again. There is absolutely nothing that indicates they are outside no matter how many times you say it. It's a chamber with windows.
Modifié par ShepardTheHopeful, 23 mars 2012 - 04:56 .
Capeo wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
Capeo wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
It's obviously meant to be Shepard. That's a fact.
The only issue here is that it makes no sense, there's no possible way for it to be the Citadel, and no possible way Shepard could've survived re-entry.
Unless a space wizard did it.
It's quite possible it is the Citadel. The Citadel does not disintergrate. The largest explosion shown is the Crucible itself because in the Destroy ending you make it malfunction. It was not designed to destroy the Reapers.
a) There is no concrete on the CitadelShepard was on the outside surface of the Citadel at the time
c) The core was consumed by a fireball the size of the entire Presidium
d) It started to break apart.
It is NOT the Citadel.
a) Says who?
c&d) And? I just watched it again. After the explosion clears everything is still intact.
Bear in mind I'm not defending these endings nor the sense of them. The simple fact is they didn't bother to make a different Citadel cutscene for the Shep lives ending because they were lazy. My point is there is nothing to indicate Shep is ever outside of the Citadel.
From what I can tell he wakes up in a keeper tunnel under the council chamber more specifically the elevator shaft leading from the presidium to the tower then the god elevator takes him up and outside the citadel right under the crucibleModifié par blooregard, 23 mars 2012 - 04:57 .
Capeo wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
Capeo wrote...
a) Says who?
Says 3 games and common sense, why would you build things out of concrete on a space station?
Good god, pay attention. Shepard is brought to the bottom of the Presidium tower, the connection point between the Crucible and the Citadel.c&d) And? I just watched it again. After the explosion clears everything is still intact.
An intact burned out husk, that is moving out of control while the wards buckle.
Explain how anyone survives a fireball like that whether the buildings are intact or not.Bear in mind I'm not defending these endings nor the sense of them. The simple fact is they didn't bother to make a different Citadel cutscene for the Shep lives ending because they were lazy. My point is there is nothing to indicate Shep is ever outside of the Citadel.
Watch the scene again, Shep is outside.
Just watched it a second ago. Again. There is absolutely nothing that indicates they are outside no matter how many times you say it. It's a chamber with windows.
The Angry One wrote...
CavScout wrote...
I am looking outside right now... yet I am not outside.
They can see into space. It doesn't mean they are exposed to space....
Look up. You see that thing? That's a thing. That's the Crucible. Look down. See that? That's a thing, that's the Citadel. You are at the connection point.
The Angry One wrote...
CavScout wrote...
I am looking outside right now... yet I am not outside.
They can see into space. It doesn't mean they are exposed to space....
Look up. You see that thing? That's a thing. That's the Crucible. Look down. See that? That's a thing, that's the Citadel. You are at the connection point.
MassEffected555 wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
CavScout wrote...
I am looking outside right now... yet I am not outside.
They can see into space. It doesn't mean they are exposed to space....
Look up. You see that thing? That's a thing. That's the Crucible. Look down. See that? That's a thing, that's the Citadel. You are at the connection point.
Wait a minute.
You are using the Crucible now to back up they were INSIDE?
I thought none of that ever happened. So now you are using something you said never happened cause it was all in Sheps head as evidence?
I give up this is just insane.
blooregard wrote...
A) Says the ancient race of genocidal robot squids the entire station is made out of some kind of metal there would be no reason to have concrete because theres nothing to build. The only thing that MAY beconcrete is the krogan statue from ME1 however with the amount of concrete shep wakes up in there's no possible way that could have been from the statue expecially since we didn't see any krogan features on the ground just building shaped rubble
C and D) The fireball from the presidium explosion would have vaporized shepard since he was IN THE MIDDLE of it and the arms started to warp its possible there was damage to the presidium we didn't see like pieces of it going with the arms.
The Angry One wrote...
ShepardTheHopeful wrote...
...once again you're trying to make logic out of a magic space machine that can overload all of the mass relays without destroying the systems they're in. I still see my idea as feasible. You can break every law of the game with a magic space machine but you can't miraculously come back to life after a fall you miraculously came back to life from to begin with? Honestly I guess everyones ending preference comes to this.
is it "A reaper did it" or "A crucible did it" because one is responsible and i'm leaning on the 6 billion year old counter to the reapers. So machine space magic!...still sounds more logical to me than half the indoctrination theory. It's Sci-fi i've seen weirder things happen.
And no one said he survive the fall the theory is he died oh did he die but the combination of synthetics and the cruicible eliminating those synthetics in a strange cosmic way is what revived him. That breath sounded like a "I've been dead but came back" breath to me.
So basically, space magic.
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= Mass Effect 3 ending
noobcannon wrote...
the longer the game has been out, and the more obvious the indoctrination theory gets, the more embarrassing it is to see people try and argue against it.
noobcannon wrote...
the longer the game has been out, and the more obvious the indoctrination theory gets, the more embarrassing it is to see people try and argue against it.
CRISIS1717 wrote...
Iwillbeback wrote...
But that is space
lol yes they are occupying a space but they are not in deep space
CavScout wrote...
noobcannon wrote...
the longer the game has been out, and the more obvious the indoctrination theory gets, the more embarrassing it is to see people try and argue against it.
Truthers and Birthers agree, the long a conspiracy theory exists, the more true it must be! :innocent:
sargon1986 wrote...
CRISIS1717 wrote...
Iwillbeback wrote...
But that is space
lol yes they are occupying a space but they are not in deep space
Yes they are. It's space and it makes no sense.
Liber320 wrote...
The part Shep is in when he's talking to the Starchild is in space. When the Crucible docked with the Citadel, you could clearly see that there is no solid structure sealing off that area. THe only possiblility is that a mass effect field was set up to make a habitable atmosphere.
The problem with the "breath" scene is that you can clearly see a fairly large explosion, the biggest one in the destruction of the Citadel scene, is centered at the Crucible/Citadel connection, right where Sheperd is. So unless a mass effect field can survive an explosion and is self-sustainable, Sheperd [is] breathing in Space
Liber320 wrote...
The part Shep is in when he's talking to the Starchild is in space. When the Crucible docked with the Citadel, you could clearly see that there is no solid structure sealing off that area. THe only possiblility is that a mass effect field was set up to make a habitable atmosphere.
The problem with the "breath" scene is that you can clearly see a fairly large explosion, the biggest one in the destruction of the Citadel scene, is centered at the Crucible/Citadel connection, right where Sheperd is. So unless a mass effect field can survive an explosion and is self-sustainable, Sheperd [is] breathing in Space
TheLostGenius wrote...
I'm speculating that the space theory is pure speculation based on the speculation and possible misinformation of others.
noobcannon wrote...
the longer the game has been out, and the more obvious the indoctrination theory gets, the more embarrassing it is to see people try and argue against it.
ShepardTheHopeful wrote...
noobcannon wrote...
the longer the game has been out, and the more obvious the indoctrination theory gets, the more embarrassing it is to see people try and argue against it.
Listen to noob folks. Because if you don't agree with a plot point feel free to force it in and repeat the same video evidence everyone keeps posting like a viral video.
OH and lets not forget there's a logical reasoning to all those arguments.
OH but better yet lets focus on one of the indoctrination theories strongest holds. The books.
Because bioware totally make it necessary for you to read the novels to play their games by hiring a person who has no affiliation with bioware with a company known for creating inaccurate spinoffs that even if they were accurate HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GAME ITSELF.
But of course you guys are right. It was all part of their master plan to make us THINK there was no ending when it really was indoctrination. Oh lordie why did we ever think of logic when it was obviously a dream the whole time. We should've just gone soprano's style and had the game fade to black when Shepard saw the child. Same thing as the indoctrination theory. But hey....SPACE MAGIC
Bioware is the supersmart company that left all these mini clues for us to understand indoctriantion and put together a 30 minute youtube video thus creating our own ending making us the writers instead of them. It all makes sense now?! Why did I even argue the all mighty indoctrination theory. My eyes are open sir. wide open. I commend you on your enlightening ways!
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