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[TsuDhoNim]

 Why else would you promote your characters over and over again?

Slightly OT.... but I often find myself promoting characters/classes I don't enjoy playing which have ranked up from character training XP just to illude myself into thinking it was something 'positive'. 

[mereck7980]

That's the reason I mostly play Silver. I will try Gold with friends, but trying to work with a group of randoms, especially against Reapers, on Gold is just frustrating.

It doesn't help that the game is not balanced on the higher difficulty levels. You almost have to use a Sniper Rifle and score constant headshots to consistently keep the hordes of enemies at bay. This balancing issue reinforces the "elitist" mentality of a lot of players.

I have heard "If you don't have a maxed out Widow and play as an Infiltrator you are a noob" more times than I would care to admit.

[uzivatel]

okita_luc wrote...

uzivatel wrote...

okita_luc wrote...

I have N7 530 more or less and this sucks, simply I can't understand this attitude. When i see people like that trying to kick without a good reason , I leave the lobby , I don't want to play with them ...

How does it affect SP? Dont you like win by default?

Because of the EMS bar and Galatic readiness ?   

Yeah, I thought each promotion adds to the War Assets and since you probably play MP here and there, your readiness should be around 100%, which means your EMS should be ridiculously high from the start...

edit: I am yet to finish the game, I realize you have to do all the priority mission no matter what.

Modifié par uzivatel, 23 mars 2012 - 05:33 .

[Drummernate]

I am N7 level 290 or so, so I don't have this problem... quite the opposite.

I join Silver matches as a level 1 and nobody says anything other than "Wow you have such-and-such guns?!?! Cool"

It seems once you pass 250 you are immune to kicks almost.

I personally hate elitists.... if a level 80 joins a Silver match why in the hell would I kick him? 80 is perfectly acceptable for Silver!

If he joins Gold then I give him one chance, if he doesn't revive I will kick him next round.

I never kick based SOLELY on N7 level. If the guy has a level 20 Adept, or really good guns, then he is actually a bigger asset to the team than the N7 350 level 3 Infiltrator with a Mantis X.

[Berserku]

nicodeemus327 wrote...
You could have easily finished off that last level in silver. Also, you get six talent points for hitting 20. That's a capstone ability you're missing.

I didn't assume hence the word "if".

During the weekdays I have maybe an hour of time to myself. My time is too important and you're too much of a risk.

Didn't notice the "if".
Anyone can play the way they want, to each his own.  But your last sentence makes me think that you are not much different than those guys.

Either way, not my problem, don't care.

[Mechazawa79]

N7 elitism is a more absurd version of the Gear Score jerks in WoW. At least In Wacraft, GS gave you a vague idea of where your DPS might be on the bell curve or whether or not you could take a hit.

N7 rating doesn't even do that. I play two classes (engineer and adept) almost exclusively because I don't care for the playstyles of the others. I know this because I played every class to completion in ME1 and ME2. The one exception might be the infiltratior, but everyone and their mother wants to play one of those and there's almost always room for my asiri adept or my salarian engi. I like their specs and don't really want to promote, so my N7 rating is permanently parked around 70 something. But,more importantly, it's no indication whatsoever of my skill or experience with this game.

Modifié par Mechazawa79, 23 mars 2012 - 05:44 .

[Berserku]

mereck7980 wrote...

That's the reason I mostly play Silver. I will try Gold with friends, but trying to work with a group of randoms, especially against Reapers, on Gold is just frustrating.

It doesn't help that the game is not balanced on the higher difficulty levels. You almost have to use a Sniper Rifle and score constant headshots to consistently keep the hordes of enemies at bay. This balancing issue reinforces the "elitist" mentality of a lot of players.

I have heard "If you don't have a maxed out Widow and play as an Infiltrator you are a noob" more times than I would care to admit.

Pretty much agree with everything in your post

[cameronnadal]

 My N7 rating is below 100. I play like, two class maybe? I haven't bothered to promote either and I've never had this issue.

[SweetNausea]

I'm n7 232 and get kicked out of bronze lobbies all the time because I'm too high.

Damned low n7 elitists.

[nicodeemus327]

Berserku wrote...

nicodeemus327 wrote...
You could have easily finished off that last level in silver. Also, you get six talent points for hitting 20. That's a capstone ability you're missing.

I didn't assume hence the word "if".

During the weekdays I have maybe an hour of time to myself. My time is too important and you're too much of a risk.

Didn't notice the "if".
Anyone can play the way they want, to each his own.  But your last sentence makes me think that you are not much different than those guys.

Either way, not my problem, don't care.

What am I supposed to do? Ignore the warning signs that this guy might not be ready for gold so he can get some extra credits?

[Teldara]

Cool story, but it's fake.

On PC, I've never been kicked because my 120~ N7. I've only been kicked because I'm under level 18 on my character.

No one ever kicks based on N7. Only class and level. If you all have infiltrator and you join as an infiltrator...you're going to get kicked unless you change to a biotic. Thats how it goes. Group composition is more important in random than N7. But CHARACTER LEVEL is a major factor.

I don't care if you're N7 1000. A level 1 will not help out in a gold mission other than "raw damage" from the weapon. You'll be knocked down every other hit because you have no fitness.

Modifié par Teldara, 23 mars 2012 - 05:42 .

[swjobson]

I will kick people for having sub-100 N7 rating on gold. Unless you are the enchanted unicorn that plays without ever promoting or and only use two or three classes, then it's an indicator that you need to spend some time in silver.

But even then that's just the first barrier. If you're using a sub-V rare weapon then your weight bonus is likely awful and you will not be able to use your core power effectively. And you're too stupid to realize an uncommon weapon can be more effective than a low level rare or ultra rare because of weight and ammo capacity.

And if you're power leveling to get a high N7 rating, an show up in a gold game with a level 5 infiltrator carrying a Black Widow I with no mods because you spend all your credits on spectre packs, I will kick you and say nothing.

I am not an elitest, I just don't want to die on wave seven because my teammates are turds.

[Teldara]

swjobson wrote...

I will kick people for having sub-100 N7 rating on gold. Unless you are the enchanted unicorn that plays without ever promoting or and only use two or three classes, then it's an indicator that you need to spend some time in silver.

But even then that's just the first barrier. If you're using a sub-V rare weapon then your weight bonus is likely awful and you will not be able to use your core power effectively. And you're too stupid to realize an uncommon weapon can be more effective than a low level rare or ultra rare because of weight and ammo capacity.

And if you're power leveling to get a high N7 rating, an show up in a gold game with a level 5 infiltrator carrying a Black Widow I with no mods because you spend all your credits on spectre packs, I will kick you and say nothing.

I am not an elitest, I just don't want to die on wave seven because my teammates are turds.

N7 is irelevant. You can get to level 20 in 2-3 hours doing silver. Promote and get 10 more ranks of N7. It means nothing. 

I just did a gold reaper with 1 AA, 1 HS, 2 SI. Took 25 minutes to finish. (finished wave 10 objective then suicided.) And guess what? Everyone was sub 150 N7. the AA was level 12 with N7 33. I use warp, he detonates. Every single time.  Yes, we could've gotten a higher level AA, but atleast he knew what he was doing.

Modifié par Teldara, 23 mars 2012 - 05:53 .

[valkulon]

I only vote low level characters out of a Silver (less than level 10) / Gold (Less than 17) lobby. Next reason for getting a vote kick is if you're using weapons that don't make sense. IE: Adept using Sniper and Shotgun together = cooldowns are crap, this wont net you an immediate vote kick from me as I will attempt to tell them over voice chat (Xbox 360) that they need to change whatever it is that I have a problem with otherwise I'm going to vote kick them.

I've only vote kicked a few people though and mostly that is lower levels that wont listen when I tell them that they're too low to be in a Silver or Gold game.

[Silent Fear]

GM Jaken wrote...

nicodeemus327 wrote...

Hell I just wanted a quick game

Why join gold then?

You're using a sub-optimal build/class combo, poor weapons and were not max level. If you hit ready before buffing I'd vote kick you too. Those are all warning signs that you might not be worth the risk of playing with. I'm in the same position as you. Work a lot, family obligations, etc, etc.

I'm not going to chance wasting my time and increasing my stress level.

You take gaming way to seriously.

nicodeemus327 actully have a valid point .... Myself having work , girl and a fat dog i value my time. And after hard day at work i want to fire up the game join my buddys and have fun and not be forced to cover for someone who ****'s up all the time. So in the rare case's when we miss a person we go for a random guy. And i wont lie. If i see something below N7 50 that play let's say - soldier or sentinel i tend to ask em if they are up to the task. If i get no respond or i see some crapy gear and no power up - i vote kick them.

And just to give a pointer high N7 rank is not hard to get even if you play only few hours a day. Especially if you got a good team to run whit. Two silver games lvl up your char from lvl 1 to lvl 12-14 and if you know your stuff and your team is good you can directly go for gold aftar that. Hance making lvl 20 is nothing.

 As for the kicking of N7 100 and above from gold game - dunno it sounds stupid if you pick a decend class and gear... Maybe they were looking for specific class to compliment em or something i dont know.

[mireisen]

Drummernate wrote...
I never kick based SOLELY on N7 level. If the guy has a level 20 Adept, or really good guns, then he is actually a bigger asset to the team than the N7 350 level 3 Infiltrator with a Mantis X.

I agree with this. But sometimes...we just don't have that great of guns. Elitists will kick you for having a "bad" N7 rating OR for not having the right equipment (because they might just not have it). I'm N7 250ish and my best sniping rifle's a Javelin I. Mantis is at VII. Yeah...I'm pretty green with envy at the Widow wielders...though a Javelin something would do fine anyways if you get around it.

I once got kicked and I was told I was gay. I went in with a level 20 Krogan soldier and a Geth Shotgun. This guy couldn't speak English well so I had to ask him to repeat it 5x. I'm female by the way.

I prefer playing with other females because we don't let our e-penises get in our way of prejudicing others. You'd be surprised what competent players would do with their resources. I do see more of the friendlier players than the elitists though, so to me they're not too worrysome.

To me competency > equipment > N7 rating. And the fact is...you can't tell if someone is competent until you actually play with them.

[lvt_Aad]

That's nice that you guys find decent players every once in a while. But don't kid yourselves. The vast player-base is horrible.

Before you make it an issue about you. Understand it's because of those idiots before you that red X's pop up.

[Berserku]

Silent Fear wrote...

nicodeemus327 actully have a valid point .... Myself having work , girl and a fat dog i value my time. And after hard day at work i want to fire up the game join my buddys and have fun and not be forced to cover for someone who ****'s up all the time. So in the rare case's when we miss a person we go for a random guy. And i wont lie. If i see something below N7 50 that play let's say - soldier or sentinel i tend to ask em if they are up to the task. If i get no respond or i see some crapy gear and no power up - i vote kick them.

And just to give a pointer high N7 rank is not hard to get even if you play only few hours a day. Especially if you got a good team to run whit. Two silver games lvl up your char from lvl 1 to lvl 12-14 and if you know your stuff and your team is good you can directly go for gold aftar that. Hance making lvl 20 is nothing.

 As for the kicking of N7 100 and above from gold game - dunno it sounds stupid if you pick a decend class and gear... Maybe they were looking for specific class to compliment em or something i dont know.

You have a point, its their lobby, if they want to play with an specific class that's okay, what irked me the wrong way was the response i got when asked for their reasons.

I would have used a better pistol if i had one (looking at you Carnifex :C), but the Phalanx was the better option available so i used that, so if you going to kick me out for the sole reason of using that weapon taking into account that my main purpose is to "Remove Defenses" then damm, that sounds ****y to me.

[Mechazawa79]

To me competency > equipment > N7 rating. And the fact is...you can't tell if someone is competent until you actually play with them.

Amen to this. Equipment and N7 rating are temporary. So is ignorance. These can all be acquired and/or corrected by those who are willing. But stupid... stupid is forever.

Modifié par Mechazawa79, 23 mars 2012 - 06:18 .

[Gilric]

I've run into this elitist kicking crap before. I think it's ridiculous too. Even worse though, was the game I had the other day:

3 of us in the gold lobby were 140+ N7, the last guy was 60-70. I thought, whatever, let's give him a chance, he's an infiltrator with a widow. Maybe he can use it well and pick us up when needed. Well, turns out he sat there in one spot the entire game, right next to another infiltrator. He had 1000 points by the 6th round when we all went down. Just from reviving the guy next to him. Otherwise no moving, no shooting. In the lobby, 2 of us tried to kick him, and the 3rd guy didn't vote. It turns out he was using another profile to leech off of gold games! That leaves us down our last player. So selfish, couldn't believe it. Needless to say I left immediately when I realized what happened.

[Trickshavv]

N7-100+ for gold or gtfo.

Don't like it? Proceed to hold your breath while waiting for me to give a ****.

N7 rating may not mean much but it tells me you've played enough that the odds of you being a derp are lower. Is this ALWAYS the case? No, of course not. But unless I look at your loadout and see a rare or X rated common as well as amps and ammo the odds of a pre 100 rolling in my game is slim to ain't-gonna-****ing-happen.

[Mechazawa79]

I think it should be pointed out that perhaps there wouldn't be so much emphasis on trying filter out incompetent and afk players if there was something teammates could do to address it once they've seen their performance in-game.

[Berserku]

mireisen wrote...
I once got kicked and I was told I was gay. I went in with a level 20 Krogan soldier and a Geth Shotgun. This guy couldn't speak English well so I had to ask him to repeat it 5x. I'm female by the way.

I prefer playing with other females because we don't let our e-penises get in our way of prejudicing others. You'd be surprised what competent players would do with their resources. I do see more of the friendlier players than the elitists though, so to me they're not too worrysome.

To me competency > equipment > N7 rating. And the fact is...you can't tell if someone is competent until you actually play with them.

Got this same problem with 2 Russian players, hell if i know wth they said XD.

Regarding your last sentence, agree 100%, problem is, not anyone is willing to see how the game turns out before judging.

Modifié par Berserku, 23 mars 2012 - 06:31 .

[mereck7980]

IMHO the best policy is to give everyone chance (within reason). Skill level is not a factor that can be measured by a number in this game, and skill is the deciding factor in completing a Gold match.

As long as the player isn't trying to play gold with a character below lvl 15 why not give them a chance? You might be surprised.

[Uchimura]

I haven't gotten kicked yet for hovering around 100+, but I join games where I'm the lowest by another hundred or two and I feel like it might be coming soon.