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[Mesmurae]

I've kind of stopped caring about a new ending. Frankly, I just want to see Bioware try to space magic their way out of the current ending.

For example, I'd like to see how they're going to explain my crew members ending up on the Normandy at the end when they were with me in the final push to the beam.

[Q8999]

Mesmurae, the problem with what your saying is with that if everyone did that nothing would get better EVER in anything.

[OntologicalShock]

I want the forces I've gathered to be worth more than a bloody number on a screen on the Normandy. If I have to die, I want to know how my sacrifice changed the galaxy going forward. If I have to sacrifice Earth for the sake of the galaxy, so be it! If I can sacrifice a bunch of aliens to save humanity, lets do that too! I want to turn traitor at the end and join Harbinger in the reaping! I want to ruin the reapers and chill out on a beach with Garrus and pals! I want a real gorram space battle! I want Krogan on Kakliosaurs! I want Rachni on reaper-Rachni action! I want to re-take the Citadel with Bailey and the Turian Councilor and Liara's dad helping me out — because it feels a whole lot more like home to me than this barely seen videogame version of Earth does!

More than any of that though, I just want something more than to be railroaded into a hack writer's wanna-be Arthur C. Clarke cop-out of an ending!

Make it happen! 

Modifié par OntologicalShock, 23 mars 2012 - 09:54 .

[NubXL]

I'm fine with them just filling in the blanks. You guys demand too much, and you're going to lose support for it. I imagine many of you are the same people who demanded refunds on your charitable donations.

[Spectre_Shepard]

yep thats sounds about right

[OntologicalShock]

EllOneillE wrote...

Wow. Thats... I think that makes the ending even more disappointing, and that's incredible.
If the ending is a sucker punch then more scenes would be rings and manicure for the hand that hits you.
I don't need more scenes. I need alternatives to what is already happening.

I had no problems understanding the ending, Bioware. I'll risk reigniting the semantics war here by saying that most people that disliked it didn't have any problems understanding it either.

It is simply of bad quality when compared to the rest of the game. The current ending for Mass Effect 3 ends with a non-interactive conversation with a sudden evil deus ex machina the player can't question, even if there is evidence that he is wrong floating to the left of Shepard.
The options and results are not really changed by any of the choices the player made before that point. The interactive storyline ends in a singular path.

You could have skipped all cutscenes and selected random options from all conversations and you would still get the same ending as somebody who fully interacted with the games.

We can't question that last character on his mad logic. You have to accept one of the options allowed to you by Space Hitlerstalinmao. Your options comply with his vision of the universe and actively invalidates stuff like the Paragon resolution to the Geth/Quarian conflict.

And the options themselves are disappointing. Green is space magic. No, worse.
Green is midichlorians, Bioware. Green is YOUR midichlorians, Bioware.

The ending doesn't fit the game. It is nonsensical, non-participatory, immutable, scientifically stupid even by light sci-fi standards, out of character, contradicts the canon of the story, has events that invalidate many of your choices and is full of plot holes. It is such a shock because the ending is by far the lowest quality part of the whole game in so many aspects. It doesn't feel like the same developers made it.

And out of all those problems, you think the plot holes and lack of epilogues are the worst part?
If all you do is add more scenes to the current ending you will have shown that you really did not understand why so many of your players were so disappointed.

Are you doing that to deflate the Retake movement and the bad publicity it created? Well, the shocking disappointment of seeing a bad fix to an ending of such poor quality by Bioware standards may accomplish that but you will not undo the bad impression you have left on many. Your user ratings for the game in places like Metacritic won't nudge much towards a more positive score.
You will have many of us telling other players that they shouldn't bother playing the trilogy. You will have many players that will continue to feel cheated or at least so disappointed that they won't purchase your games again. I won't support you with either with words of praise or money.

Without the ability to influence the story and its conclusion, does the game really have the gameplay that made Bioware games popular? I don't believe so.

You will lose consumers. You will lose loyal consumers.
I want to love Mass Effect 3. I believe many of your fans want to do the same. Which is why we request alternatives that live up to Bioware's fame for letting the player alter the storyline and have their choices matter for the end of the game.
Not more of the same.

You, sir or madame, are a person after my own heart! Bravo(a)!

Modifié par OntologicalShock, 23 mars 2012 - 10:04 .

[Dragoonlordz]

Mesmurae wrote...

I've kind of stopped caring about a new ending. Frankly, I just want to see Bioware try to space magic their way out of the current ending.

For example, I'd like to see how they're going to explain my crew members ending up on the Normandy at the end when they were with me in the final push to the beam.

That is a very reasonable expectation. It is also in line with what Bioware tend to do as they did with Dragon Age 2. Took feedback and incorporated the results into new DLC. If your expectations are to get new DLC which explains all such things as the catalyst, what happened to the races, Normandy reasons why did what did, the AI people dub "god child" and relays situation. Then that is what they mean by additional content to bring more exposition and closure while at same time mentioned on facebook that the original endings will not be 'altered' in the core game itself. If that covers the exposition you just want and expect then I think your expectations will be met.

Those who expect different and replacement endings are putting their expectations above what they will recieve and are in for truly great disappointment. How exactly this new DLC will tie in to the game from outside content perspective, meaning additional but not altering the core game endings will be interesting to see.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 23 mars 2012 - 10:06 .

[Dragoonlordz]

EllOneillE wrote...

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You will lose consumers. You will lose loyal consumers.
I want to love Mass Effect 3. I believe many of your fans want to do the same. Which is why we request alternatives that live up to Bioware's fame for letting the player alter the storyline and have their choices matter for the end of the game.
Not more of the same.

Guess you was not so loyal after all then.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 23 mars 2012 - 10:07 .

[OntologicalShock]

NubXL wrote...

I imagine many of you are the same people who demanded refunds on your charitable donations.

Baseless mudslinging. I've donated thrice to that charity and will donate to the next (if they get around to picking a new one) and I know full well where my monies went and what I was buying with them; entertainment for sick kids. That is a mighty tall horse you're perched upon.

Modifié par OntologicalShock, 23 mars 2012 - 10:08 .

[Purple People Eater]

Those of you who think Bioware are going to redo the entire ending are delusional. I mean, its almost hilarious. The best you can hope for is for them to expand in some way on whats already there, and give us a chance to see what characters end up where, and how they get there with more explanation, and detail. This will be a continuation if anything, but a redo?...LOL. Wake up folks.

[Relwyn]

NubXL wrote...

I'm fine with them just filling in the blanks. You guys demand too much, and you're going to lose support for it. I imagine many of you are the same people who demanded refunds on your charitable donations.

Something tells me that your imagination is more than a little limited, mate. And no, I'll hold Bioware to their word that we'll get 16 different endings as advertised - how is asking them to keep their word too much?

[AntiDave]

Just read the Twitter post... would have preferred that they retcon the current ending or at least add a perfect ending that doesn't wreck the universe with space magic.

[Craigolas]

wolf465 wrote...

They're not even trying to understand why we're upset.

You don't speak for all of us. Clarification is exactly what I asked for and a explaination of what happened due to my previous decisions were needed.

[Craigolas]

Samtheman63 wrote...

Not "we", you, and a bunch of other ignorant numptys

The ending is fine, just fill in the blanks

EXACTLY. 

[Painaid]

Unless it drastically fixes the major plot holes, BS space magic, and gives our choices actual weight in the end, then I will not be buying this DLC/whatever it is and I'll be done with BioWare forever. The fact they were genuinely surprised by the backlash against the endings shows how out of touch they are with reality. If they actually thought these endings were good, I'm afraid that the writing team at BioWare is beyond help.

[Reptilian Rob]

Taboo-XX wrote...

YO DAWG WE HEARD YOU LIKE CONFUSION.......

[CDHarrisUSF]

Painaid wrote...

Unless it drastically fixes the major plot holes, BS space magic, and gives our choices actual weight in the end, then I will not be buying this DLC/whatever it is and I'll be done with BioWare forever. The fact they were genuinely surprised by the backlash against the endings shows how out of touch they are with reality. If they actually thought these endings were good, I'm afraid that the writing team at BioWare is beyond help.

Agreed.

Modifié par CDHarrisUSF, 23 mars 2012 - 10:15 .

[Intomydimension]

 People who order a new complete end and that end we throw away is unclear, simple idiots



not have to think that the theory of indoctrination, you can have a completely new end, without sending away the ending that we saw?

[Aurellia]

Polishing a turd is not going to work here. We need Bioware to fulfill the promise they made that there would be a range of endings based on our choices and that most players would find satisfying.

[Dridengx]

Here I thought you guys wanted 'closure' you wanted 'an ending that makes sense'. You wanted an explanation on 'child god' and 'space magic' and what happened to your 'companions' etc. Now, you want a whole new ending? not happening, Bioware Co Founder said,

"We’re working hard to maintain the right
balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while
addressing the fan feedback we’ve received"

What you guys are asking for will completely off balance the current ending thus not maintaining their artistic integrity or staying true to the real original story vision.

[Dridengx]

Mesmurae wrote...

I've kind of stopped caring about a new ending. Frankly, I just want to see Bioware try to space magic their way out of the current ending.

For example, I'd like to see how they're going to explain my crew members ending up on the Normandy at the end when they were with me in the final push to the beam.

Good for you. The answers will come for you in April

[Diegofsv]

Its over....they wont remove godchild and the only acceptable way to have that abomination is with indocrination theory. ME3....R I P

[WarBaby2]

Dridengx wrote...

Here I thought you guys wanted 'closure' you wanted 'an ending that makes sense'. You wanted an explanation on 'child god' and 'space magic' and what happened to your 'companions' etc. Now, you want a whole new ending? not happening, Bioware Co Founder said,

"We’re working hard to maintain the right
balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while
addressing the fan feedback we’ve received"

What you guys are asking for will completely off balance the current ending thus not maintaining their artistic integrity or staying true to the real original story vision.

But the ending to this "oh so original" story is complete and utter garbage... simple as that. It is cheap, convoluted and lazy. What BioWare should do is: Change it to something sensical and in line with rest of the seires.

What they WILL do, however, is release some additional stuff to clearify the ending that is... no clue how they may be able to make sense out of it... and then call it done. If fans still don't like it, they just will point and say "see, we made ammands, and you still don't like it... now we'll stop listening".

Modifié par WarBaby2, 23 mars 2012 - 10:30 .

[ChuckieJ]

AntiDave wrote...

Just read the Twitter post... would have preferred that they retcon the current ending or at least add a perfect ending that doesn't wreck the universe with space magic.

In the Indoctrination Theory, the universe is not wrecked.