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Just what the hell. Bioware, we want a new ending, not some closure to the current ending.


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xsdob

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You know, when you demand a new ending, but cite wanting questions answered and closure for the characters as a main reason why, THAN when they do this stomp your feet, throw a hissy fit, and demand a new ending anyway, it makes you look spoiled an entitled.

I'm just saying that if you don't want to be called spoiled or entitled than you shouldn't play the part so well.

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Sarevok Synder

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What a surprise; Bioware just don't get it. They won't be near as smart when their next release bombs; all this spin about artistic integrity won't save them then.

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Dridengx wrote...

their artistic integrity

They vented their "artistic integrity" out the airlock when they put an IGN writer in the game... when they pulled out a character with important insight to the story and sold it as day one DLC... when they broke the reader-writer contract... when they lied about the endings in interviews leading up to the release... when this ****ty ending made it further than a cocktail napkin. No, they don't need to worry about losing their artistic integrity. They already lost it. They need to be trying to find it. Until they do, I have no shortage of other games to buy.

Modifié par CDHarrisUSF, 23 mars 2012 - 10:38 .


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Next they'll wonder why DLC sales are so low.

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CDHarrisUSF wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

their artistic integrity

They vented their "artistic integrity" out the airlock when they put an IGN writer in the game... when they pulled out a character with important insight to the story and sold it as day one DLC... when they broke the reader-writer contract... when they lied about the endings in interviews leading up to the release... when this ****ty ending made it further than a cocktail napkin. No, they don't need to worry about losing their artistic integrity. They already lost it. They need to be trying to find it.


BADOOM !!! - that felt like it hit home hard.  Perfectly put and well said.

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who cares, i'm not gonna buy DA3, nor other games. I wont buy DLC, i'll obtain them another way. Not even a penny from me to BW.

What are thinking i cant imagine. How can you CLARIFY teleporting squads ? How can you CLARIFY coward Joker ? How can you CLARIFY Shepard breathing without oxygen.

This is arrogance, they cant, they wont accept the logic errors during the final, works for me, with this logic level they wont last long.

Modifié par revo76, 23 mars 2012 - 10:40 .


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The Night Mammoth

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New endings please, the current one is garbage. Story vision be damned, the effort put into this game and the trilogy's overall quality are undeserving of it.

You like them as they are? Don't download the DLC, everyone wins.

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CDHarrisUSF wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

their artistic integrity

They vented their "artistic integrity" out the airlock when they put an IGN writer in the game... when they pulled out a character with important insight to the story and sold it as day one DLC... when they broke the reader-writer contract... when they lied about the endings in interviews leading up to the release... when this ****ty ending made it further than a cocktail napkin. No, they don't need to worry about losing their artistic integrity. They already lost it. They need to be trying to find it. Until they do, I have no shortage of other games to buy.


This. "Artistic integrity" seems to be their definition of 'lazy incompetence'

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SimonM72 wrote...

CDHarrisUSF wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

their artistic integrity

They vented their "artistic integrity" out the airlock when they put an IGN writer in the game... when they pulled out a character with important insight to the story and sold it as day one DLC... when they broke the reader-writer contract... when they lied about the endings in interviews leading up to the release... when this ****ty ending made it further than a cocktail napkin. No, they don't need to worry about losing their artistic integrity. They already lost it. They need to be trying to find it.


BADOOM !!! - that felt like it hit home hard.  Perfectly put and well said.


Yep.

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

EllOneillE wrote...

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You will lose consumers. You will lose loyal consumers.
I want to love Mass Effect 3. I believe many of your fans want to do the same. Which is why we request alternatives that live up to Bioware's fame for letting the player alter the storyline and have their choices matter for the end of the game.
Not more of the same.


Guess you was not so loyal after all then.



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CDHarrisUSF wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

their artistic integrity

They vented their "artistic integrity" out the airlock when they put an IGN writer in the game... when they pulled out a character with important insight to the story and sold it as day one DLC... when they broke the reader-writer contract... when they lied about the endings in interviews leading up to the release... when this ****ty ending made it further than a cocktail napkin. No, they don't need to worry about losing their artistic integrity. They already lost it. They need to be trying to find it. Until they do, I have no shortage of other games to buy.

QFT.

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I've said this elsewhere, but this is a good place to say it again.

'Clarity' and 'closure' are important, but really would be in sufficient to change my opinion of the ending. (I'll hedge my bets by saying, I'll allow you the opportunity to convince me otherwise, but I think it very unlikely.)

Ideally I think the whole ending needs to be rewritten from the ground up.

However, the current endings do have enough support that I think a rewrite will never happen, so I believe a compromise is in order.

The ending needs to be expanded to properly reflect our expectations. Those expectations were set by the pre-release interviews, and also by our own experiences having played BioWare games in the past.

We need an ending that fits with the rest of the game, and the rest of the series.

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xsdob wrote...

You know, when you demand a new ending, but cite wanting questions answered and closure for the characters as a main reason why, THAN when they do this stomp your feet, throw a hissy fit, and demand a new ending anyway, it makes you look spoiled an entitled.

I'm just saying that if you don't want to be called spoiled or entitled than you shouldn't play the part so well.


Not really. People demanded a new ending because the current ending fails in every possible aspect. They didn't want  answers to why plot holes aren't actually plot holes; why Shepard, Joker and the rest of the squad did a 180 at the very end of the trilogy or why space magic isn't actually space magic. They wanted a new ending that wouldn't have these problems.

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whatever Bioware you just lost a customer, a fan, and my respect

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Bioware must think that we love doublespeak and nonanswers.

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xsdob wrote...

You know, when you demand a new ending, but cite wanting questions answered and closure for the characters as a main reason why, THAN when they do this stomp your feet, throw a hissy fit, and demand a new ending anyway, it makes you look spoiled an entitled.

I'm just saying that if you don't want to be called spoiled or entitled than you shouldn't play the part so well.


Those are a few of the things we (I at least) want, but by no means all of them. I also want choice. And while many disagree, I would also like the option of a happy end.

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I didn't find the ending 'artsey' or anything, I thought it was lame, disappointing and just plain stupid. The Mass relays explode, no one can travel, everyone is stranded. Unless by some even dumber reason the energy from the catalyst changed the entire universe and reset everything to adam and eve times. Not to mention Shepard died, and my shepard would have kicked that starchild in the mouth and called him a moron. The whole ending needs to be changed in its entirety, I'll settle for more closure, but i would be disappointed that it wasn't changed. They could have done so much more with the Mass Effect series but it seems like by the ending of ME3 they just threw everything away.

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What bioware seems to think is that they can continue their name without the support of fans. Little do they know, the disconnect that they're creating between themselves and their fan base is going to cause them to go from a AAA+ title developer to a B+ (eh MAYBE I'll buy it when it's cheaper) kind of company.

Modifié par krogstor, 23 mars 2012 - 10:48 .


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This 100%. All or nothing BioWare, all or nothing. You can't put a band-aid on a broken neck.

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Big Mac Heart Attack wrote...

This 100%. All or nothing BioWare, all or nothing. You can't put a band-aid on a broken neck.



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A new well written ending with closure is what I'm after, not the current ending with closure and plothole better hidden.

The entire Starchild bit needs to go for there being a chance I'ld content with whatever actually makes it into the game in a month or so

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Just do what I do. Play ME3 up to the starchild scene and then watch the ME2 ending on youtube. It's exponentially more satisfying in every way.

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Nah man....it should've been a dlc....didn't even have to have a big one....just have him wake up, kick Harbingers ass or die trying....

explain the purpose of the Reapers....

Show our fleet fighting

Show salarians and krogans fight along side eachother.....turiana and humans holding the line....

show all squadmates, species, and homeworlds that survived due to our choices and actions

A boss fight and a lengthy cut scene afterwards is not too much to ask for dlc... I'm sorry but I wouldve never thought that 10 minutes out of a 3game journey, could ruin the whole damn thing....but it was the END

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

EllOneillE wrote...

-snip-

You will lose consumers. You will lose loyal consumers.
I want to love Mass Effect 3. I believe many of your fans want to do the same. Which is why we request alternatives that live up to Bioware's fame for letting the player alter the storyline and have their choices matter for the end of the game.
Not more of the same.


Guess you was not so loyal after all then.


Since he's here actually trying to have his voice heard and alternative ending DLC added, I'd guess he's more loyal than the people who accept, sometimes like, the tripe that is the last 10 minutes of ME3. 

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Iwillbeback wrote...

They don't seem to get the problem with the ending.


no cuz they have plans for further content after the ending, they had all the time.