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[GoddessLunatic]

I just don't understand. They can keep their ending if they like it, but WHY ON EARTH can't they just give us a different option? Everybody would be happy. Goddamnit Bioware.

[Reptilian Rob]

GoddessLunatic wrote...

I just don't understand. They can keep their ending if they like it, but WHY ON EARTH can't they just give us a different option? Everybody would be happy. Goddamnit Bioware.

They are too busy counting your money and padding their inflated egos. 

[Kungfu Nando]

Leafs43 wrote...

If they aren't going to do the indoctrination theory

-We want star child to disappear because the idea behind him sucks
-We want to have the option of not nuking the entire galaxy
-We want a more conclusive way of killing reapers other than space magic
-We'd like the ending most of all to make sense.

I have actually attemepted, and even in game researched if this is possible, so it would fit in with what the writers have already given us. Hear is a link to my idea/suggestion 
http://social.biowar...1620/1#10494348

[TcomJ]

Folks, they don't want to change the ending. It's freaking clear. They intentionally make that sucky endings for their own benefits.

http://geek.pikimal....t-name-release/

[mokbass87]

I doubt a whole new ending will be made,it would be a bit unfair to those who dont have access to DLC or are happy with the current ending,i look forward to what bioware will do with the ending though as im sure they will make at least some sort modification to the current ending.

[Vigil_N7]

I don't see why they just don't add a 4th ending, and keep the other 3. Technically then, they are not changing the ending, only adding another to the mix.

[Mcfly616]

Somebody clarify the end of the Matrix Revolutions for me? Oh...all of our heroes die? Oh choice was an illusion all this time? We will many divergent endings Casey? Our decisions shape the outcome....

Oh I'm sorry I'm confusing 2 completely different things....

Or am I?!

[Welsh Inferno]

AndroLeonidas wrote...

-snip-

Sorry what Liara romance bug is this? I'm just curious. The shep I played through with didn't romance her yet I got relationship-esque dialouge between Liara & Aethyta. Just wondering what else there is.

[Swollen Beef]

Greyze2k wrote...

While I was infuriated with the ending, if there is just atleast one thing that could be done right, it should be the Mass Relays NOT BLOWING UP.

Killing the Mass Effect Universe is just not right

Killing the ME universe should have been ONE OF THE MANY endingsthat you got through the choices and actions you performed over the three games.
Like we were led to believe

[effortname]

I'd rather they just leave things as is than make the hallucination theories invalid. Because at least right now we can pretend the ending is good.

[SavageLycan]

Yeah, the title of this thread pretty much says exactly what I've been thinking since I saw the Bioware statement. Just... c'mon already.

[captainbob8383]

'Closure' is not the problem and wont bring anything. 
The real concern is that those 3 choices make no sense at all regarding ME lore. Bioware, you didnt and wont explain them, because they cant be explained, they are simply and absolutely incoherent. Maybe they would fit in The Matrix or Deus Ex, but hard luck, we are in Mass Effect here.

Destruction is actually the 'less bad' of the three options. But still, Sheppard genocide all synthetic lifes, even tho he just saved the geths and knows they are not hostile…

Control is the exact thing TIM tried to accomplish, and for two games, ME2 and ME3, Sheppard never ceased to tell him that reapers can’t be controlled, and shouldn’t be controlled, nobody should possess such power. 

Synthesis is what Saren tried to achieve in ME1, the means used are different but the result is the same. It's turning everybody in a organics/synthetics hybrid regardless of their free will. It is in total contradiction with some major ME themes like self determination and unity despite differences. Oh, and forcing a DNA mutation on anybody is bad.

And just like that, after meeting the goldchild, Sheppard gives up and finally tells himself :
"Oh! In fact those were really good ideas! I was so wrong! LOL! "

Seriously? 
From the moment Sheppard took that damn elevator he's was no more himself, he became some kind of puppet ignoring all he has accomplished before this moment.

Most people see there is a huge problem here.
This ending cant be fixed, it needs to be scrapped. Nothing less.

Modifié par captainbob8383, 23 mars 2012 - 11:34 .

[Welsh Inferno]

effortname wrote...

I'd rather they just leave things as is than make the hallucination theories invalid. Because at least right now we can pretend the ending is good.

I havn't got nearly enough alchohol in my system to start pretending its good.

[ImmovableMover]

When I initially wrote a response in this thread there was 15% in favour of "Expansion of the existing, literal endings"

That number is now 10%.

[Kungfu Nando]

PresidentCowboy wrote...

Surely it would have to be indoctrination theory, I mean how else would they add gameplay to the DLC? It can't just be cutscenes right?

Take on the reapers conventionally with a very high EMS

[Kungfu Nando]

captainbob8383 wrote...

Destruction is actually the 'less bad' of the three options. But still, Sheppard genocide all synthetic lifes, even tho he just saved the geths and knows they are not hostile…

TBF as a Renegade this choice or ending actually is not that bad, it play along with their win at all costs, ends justify the means way of thinking. Yeah the galaxy is screwed but I WIN REAPER SUCK ON IT!  All the renegade convo options also state that shepard doesn't consider EDI or even Legion to be alive, just a machine with powerful resources he needed. Tragically for me, I played a rushed (key word here) renegade femshep and didn't fully grasp the endings were the same, it was only when I tried the other choices the game was ruined for me...

[Intomydimension]

 every time is closer to the indoctrination theory is true, if what they think is clear, is the only theory or way that gives meaning to the end and cover the plot holes


overcome it!!

[eddieoctane]

Hudson and friends need to get over themselves, accept the indoctrination theory that they were originally going to use at some point, and just add on an hour or 2 of game play in which we kill Harbinger and don't thrust the galaxy back a billion years technologically. Closure is great, but logic is far more important. You can't spend the bulk of 3 games trying to root most of what goes down in actual science (instantaneous relay travel included) and then suddenly go with magical flashes of light. Sure, you may think that holding on to this "artistic vision" is a good idea now, but the Japanese thought the same thing about Pearl Harbor, and the consequences were not something I would wish on my greatest enemy. Some **** backfires. Listen to the fans, they pay you.

[JeanLuc Awesome]

There's a difference between expressing your opinions and demanding them to change it.

I didn't like the ending, for all the reasons that have been posted numerous times but I'm perfectly happy getting some "closure" DLC. I think I'm finally in the acceptance stage and can finally enjoy ME3 again.

[SaltyWaffles-PD]

They should have realized this BEFORE release. They have absolutely no excuse for missing it before now.

I just hope they don't completely shoot themselves in the gut by not clearly agreeing with the vast majority of fan sentiment.

[sistersafetypin]

sargon1986 wrote...

Exactly...

God Child will now talk 10 minutes longer and we'll be left with the same crappy endings... This is what I call WINNING via SPACE MAGIC 

[effortname]

JeanLuc Awesome wrote...

There's a difference between expressing your opinions and demanding them to change it.

I didn't like the ending, for all the reasons that have been posted numerous times but I'm perfectly happy getting some "closure" DLC. I think I'm finally in the acceptance stage and can finally enjoy ME3 again.

It's literally impossible to get closure with endings that completely switch or betray the themes of the entire trilogy that precedes them.

[Thy_BZBY]

I had a feeling that they never intended to change the ending to the game, yes I say ending because they are all (for the most part) exactly the same. So here's what I gather from what the CF of BW said. We hear you (loyal fan base, which is a lot more than he realizes) but we can't nor will we impede on the devs "artistic integrity"...so we will offer some "clarification" for those of you who don't UNDERSTAND the best game we have ever made.

Now agree with me or not, take from it what you will but that's how I see his comment. It almost hurts to know that we as a fan base were promised things (multiple "endings"). Just to get really vague answers to the situation. I also love how he and hudson refer to us (remember most but not all) in passing...as if the loyal fan base is just a "small/tiny" part of the Mass Effect Universe fan base. Now indulge me for a minute if you will. Scroll up and down these forums and really pay attention now. For every person/post that likes the endings and or trolls the rest of us, notice just how many other posts there are...just look at it statistically if you want. For every 1 post-for the endings there are on average 5-10 posts/persons that have a problem with the ending of the game (just food for thought). That right there is telling in of itself, how can they possibly refer to us (remember not all but most) like that?!? It boggles my mind, it's a classic case of they hear and see only what they want to hear and see. So they are paying attention to the persons that have no real problem with the ending. But just throwing most of us a bone BUT at the same time they aren't actually throwing the bone, they are holding the bone above us and are paying attention to how much we want the bone. They know for a fact that we will most likely pay for these "clarifications"...so why all the song and dance?

[JeanLuc Awesome]

effortname wrote...

JeanLuc Awesome wrote...

There's a difference between expressing your opinions and demanding them to change it.

I didn't like the ending, for all the reasons that have been posted numerous times but I'm perfectly happy getting some "closure" DLC. I think I'm finally in the acceptance stage and can finally enjoy ME3 again.

It's literally impossible to get closure with endings that completely switch or betray the themes of the entire trilogy that precedes them.

I agree, but at least it's something and on top of that the rest of the game is absolutely amazing.
Feel free to continue holding the line, I won't be joining though, I'm content now.