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[Nelatherion]

Over arcing theme of sacrifice is prevalent throughout the entire series, so yes. If Shepard, through choices made in game could sacrifice him/herself for the good of the galaxy, it would fit and work well. If done right

[jeweledleah]

oh I don't know... seeing my Shepard climb out of that rubble in Mass Effect 1, seeing her again, making that jump in ME2 still remains one of my most favorite moments in video gaming. ME3 ending? I pretty much erased it from my mind, after replaying it to numb myself to the dreadfulness of it and to cure fire with fire if you will.

I suggest, that you watch this video. http://www.ted.com/t..._vs_memory.html

when we remember things, we go back to good memories, good experiences. most of us prefer happiness to sadness. when I remember the loved ones I lost? I don't go back to their last moments, I go back to the moments of joy.

[HeroicHare]

i wouldn´t mind shepard dying if I chose it to be so.. I would definetly like it as an option but imho there should be a shepard lives option aswell

[jeweledleah]

SeventyOne wrote...

I agree with the people showing DA:O as an example. I could always choose the death of the Warden option, it is epic.
Shepard's story is epic too, but he doesn't have an epic ending, in my humble opinion. Maybe the whole setting of his death is the real problem here and not his/her inevitable death.
The hero of DA:O has his friends with him and they are watching him make the ultimate sacrifice after a brave last boss fight. That was a very powerful and -dare i say- artistic ending. A truly "bittersweet" ending.
So yes Shepard should die, but he should die gloriously.

no.  inevitable death IS the problem.  its not the only problem but it IS the problem.

[Darth Wraith]

I have no problem with my Shepard dying in the end. Sacrificing his life to stop the Reapers, one way or another, seemed entirely plausible based on everything that had gone before.

[Tirigon]

The Razman wrote...

Because stories where the good guys win all the time are stale, predictable and just not very emotional. If you always have the option of going back and winning, then there's no real tragedy in losing.

In fact, I find tragedies very boring and predictable and not very emotional. If there is no hope anyways you might as well just lie down and die.

[Tirigon]

SeventyOne wrote...

I agree with the people showing DA:O as an example. I could always choose the death of the Warden option, it is epic.
Shepard's story is epic too, but he doesn't have an epic ending, in my humble opinion. Maybe the whole setting of his death is the real problem here and not his/her inevitable death.
The hero of DA:O has his friends with him and they are watching him make the ultimate sacrifice after a brave last boss fight. That was a very powerful and -dare i say- artistic ending. A truly "bittersweet" ending.

Agreed 100%.

But on a side note - DAO was a lot better than even ME1, which is the best game of the trilogy. It makes sense that the ending is better as well.

Modifié par Tirigon, 25 mars 2012 - 08:31 .

[HenkieDePost]

It's simple. I want Shepard to live if I did everything I could do to get the best ending possible. I want Shepard to die if I took the cheap way out. But the one thing I want is a choice. I want to be able to keep him alive, but not like that he always survives.

[Iakus]

jeweledleah wrote...


no.  inevitable death IS the problem.  its not the only problem but it IS the problem.

This.

It's a big example of the ending taking choice out of the players' hands

It's Bioware telling Shepard "You exist because he allow it, and you will end because we demand it"

Bioware, don't Reap our Shepards!

Modifié par iakus, 25 mars 2012 - 08:49 .

[Kargsure]

My Shep has always been willing to sacrifice herself for the mission - but she would try to find another option first - not just willing accept that her death was inevitable because some stupid, previously unknown, Star Child says so.

[Icinix]

I don't mind - but I would like the option for him/ her to survive.

The last thing this series needed or wanted was everyone heading to the same direction.

DAO handled this better than any other game - you could have your happy ending or you could have your sad ending. Both were equally powerful.

[Tirigon]

Kargsure wrote...

My Shep has always been willing to sacrifice herself for the mission - but she would try to find another option first - not just willing accept that her death was inevitable because some stupid, previously unknown, Star Child says so.

I always felt that the only believable reaction my Shep would have to the starchild is a swift, but fierce, kick in his ghostly quad.

[nikki191]

Icinix wrote...

I don't mind - but I would like the option for him/ her to survive.

The last thing this series needed or wanted was everyone heading to the same direction.

DAO handled this better than any other game - you could have your happy ending or you could have your sad ending. Both were equally powerful.

well said and i completely agree. although i was expecting shepard to die at the end. id always seen shepard putting up a brave face and ive wondered what sort of toll being resurected as such when so many died on the ship would have on shepard, plus the fact she was coming apart at the seams in ME3 i did think that would of been a more natural choice for my shepard

[Exodus2000]

Yeah I just want the 16 different endings BW had previously promised.

[Icinix]

nikki191 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

I don't mind - but I would like the option for him/ her to survive.

The last thing this series needed or wanted was everyone heading to the same direction.

DAO handled this better than any other game - you could have your happy ending or you could have your sad ending. Both were equally powerful.

well said and i completely agree. although i was expecting shepard to die at the end. id always seen shepard putting up a brave face and ive wondered what sort of toll being resurected as such when so many died on the ship would have on shepard, plus the fact she was coming apart at the seams in ME3 i did think that would of been a more natural choice for my shepard

Same. In some of my playthroughts thats exactly what would have been nautral for my Shep. In others - it would have been survival first at any cost.

Just because a live ending isn't believable for some, doesn't mean it isn't for others. There should have been choices that led to it, just like choices in the game led to different outcomes throughout.

[BlacJAC74]

Icinix wrote...

I don't mind - but I would like the option for him/ her to survive.

The last thing this series needed or wanted was everyone heading to the same direction.

DAO handled this better than any other game - you could have your happy ending or you could have your sad ending. Both were equally powerful.

Nah, i don't buy that.  We had the option to kill Shepard at the end of ME2, but the vast majority only went with the 'live' option and as such we all ended up doing more or less the same thing.  Granted, some of us killed our Shep, but that was just for the shizzles, because we could.

Everyone would have just went for the rosey option again meaning it would have been just been a waste of resourse adding a death option just for the sake of adding one.

That said, it would have been better than what we got, however, i'd prefer they had used those resourses to give us a more in-depth ending rather than the a,b and c rubbish we got.

Modifié par BlacJAC74, 25 mars 2012 - 09:42 .

[Salis777]

Good writing - multiple choices - heroic sacrifice (your decision), heroic victory everyone survives against all odds (ME2 ending), pyrrhic victory, defeat, total defeat. EPILOGUE.

Bad writing - current ending(s).

[Tirigon]

BlacJAC74 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

I don't mind - but I would like the option for him/ her to survive.

The last thing this series needed or wanted was everyone heading to the same direction.

DAO handled this better than any other game - you could have your happy ending or you could have your sad ending. Both were equally powerful.

Nah, i don't buy that.  We had the option to kill Shepard at the end of ME2, but the vast majority only went with the 'live' option and as such we all ended up doing more or less the same thing.  Granted, some of us killed our Shep, but that was just for the shizzles, because we could.

Everyone would have just went for the rosey option again meaning it would have been just been a waste of resourse adding a death option just for the sake of adding one.

If you are right, then why is there no happy end? 

All people picking the happy end proves one thing clearly: All people WANT the happy end and not some wannabe.tragic bullsh!t.

[jojon2se]

Depends.

If we got to mix our own dyes and go for, say, a purple ending, I could see my Shepard dyein.... oh...

[Aravius]

Mutineer81 wrote...

If Shepard dies at the end are you okay with it?

I'm fine either way; if dies or lives. My cheif complaint about the current ending(s) is that it doesn't acknowledge any of  your choices throughout the series.  If that is corrected, I'd be okay if Shepard dies - would you? 

In fact, I think if Shepard were to die it adds to the legend.

I never expected Shep to live. I still hate the ending.

[streamlock]

I never expected him/her to live either. God forbid they resurrect him a second damn time.

Resurrecting more then once and you go into comic book territory. What am I saying? It already has.

[Bocks]

I WANT Shepard to die. I want him to die and sacrifice himself to save the galaxy. I want to see the characters I've grown to love around an empty coffin, each giving a speech. After that I want to know how they all carried on. And then? Joker flying off into space, the game acknowledging that everything is finally alright. Das Malefitz.

[Oldbones2]

Accept that Shepard dies in the course of saving the galaxy? Of course. I thought he would die on the platform beside Anderson. I could accept that.

Pointlessly throw his life away in three 'different' endings just because Bioware feels sacrifice makes for a more complete saga. NO.

Look IF Shepard dies saving the galaxy its ok with me so long as it makes sense.

But really, in control, you could bridge what are obviously two conduits with just about anything that isn't Shepard's body. Use TIM body, use a pipe wrench or that GUN you were holding. Hell anything would work.

In destroy, STAND BACK from the pipe when you blow it up. BTW why does this activate one of the EXTREMELY high tech functions on the Crucible? Did the race that designed it think that explosions should be built into control panels? It's so dumb.

In synthesis, which already makes no scientific sense, I could accept that Shepard might have to die (even though again, TIM's body is right there) to get this 'highly desirable' outcome.

I can live with sacrifice, but I can't accept the illogical murder of a main character so some writer can feel 'edgy'.

[Jynthor]

I actually want my Shepard to die, so no, I wouldn't mind.
Should be optional though.

[PaddlePop]

I honestly don't care what happens to Shepard. Live... Die, I honestly don't care, but I do care about the game universe. How our actions affected it, and what happens post-Shep. If a new character steps into the role of galactic Messiah, then I would like for my actions to have mattered. What happens to the Genophage-cured Krogans, what happens to the Geth? Etc. Etc. Etc.

I guess that's why people are so upset at the endings because you don't even get ****ing closure.