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[DeathWarding]

okay so i just build a new PC and installed nwn and both expansions.  I patched,  and downloaded CEP everything i needed to play on my favorite Anphillia server.  Well,  after spending $1500 dollars on a new rig, i hoped for it to run well.   IT turns out that its running really choppy.  It seems like a program is trying to open up on the desktop while i have nwn open,  like little flickering in and out random colors or like black lines like shadows.   I can tell it wants to run so fast,  the graphics look beautiful.  Just choppy and laggy. 


Im using windows 7 ,  ive ran it in compatibillity mode ( the only way it would run ).   I got the latest driver updates on the GPU.


And here are the specs to my PC.



---1) ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

---2) Corsair Carbide Series 400R Graphite grey and black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case

---3) Seagate ST310005N1A1AS-RK 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

---4)GIGABYTE
GV-R787OC-2GD Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express
3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

---5) CORSAIR
Professional Series HX750 (CMPSU-750HX) 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91
SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified ...

---6) Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 HyperX Plug n Play Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3P1K2/8G

---7) ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

---8)Intel
Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W
Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000


Annnnny imput greatly appreciated,  i upgraded in hopes to finally have a good fast PC to play it on,  and now this

Modifié par DeathWarding, 23 mars 2012 - 05:48 .

[HipMaestro]

Did you disable UAC and all anti-virus, anti-phishing and other security apps??

Has your current video driver been updated to provide OpenGL support?

[Lightfoot8]

Make sure that you are running on oly one core with and Turn SLI off.

[DeathWarding]

Yep I have it checked for run as administrator.   I dont think any firewall is up windows fire wall maybe?  the antivirus doesnt have any options for blocking programs.

Yes i updated to the latest drivers.  

SLI? Whats that stand for?   I don't beleive i have.    And I changed the affinity CPU #  from 0 to 1.

Modifié par DeathWarding, 23 mars 2012 - 09:47 .

[Lightfoot8]

DeathWarding wrote...

SLI? Whats that stand for?   I don't beleive i have.   
...
---5) CORSAIR
Professional Series HX750 (CMPSU-750HX) 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91
SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified ...

SLI stand for: Scalable Link Interface, NVIDIA's method for connecting two or more video cards together to produce a single output;

You can turn it off in the display driver, If you have it turned on.

[Rubies]

My standard list of suggestions for people having lag:

1) Turn off Hardware Sound;
2) Turn off Shiny Water;
3) Try running the game in a window;
4) ...yeah, that's all I have.

[Knight_Shield]

I have i5 and did not do the cpu change.
I suspect it something to do with your graphics card.I think you have graphics on your processor?Try using those to test.
Also make sure you have the right directx.

[HipMaestro]

When you patched, did you use the Critical Rebuild?

Is NWN the only game that behaves this way on your current rig?

Have you tried to play a vanilla v1.69 installation on a vanilla server and/or module?

The "latest" drivers are not always the best to play NWN or any other game that renders graphics with OpenGL (which is the reason I especially questioned this point in my previous inquiry).  Your card appears to use ATI/AMD technology and that manufacturer has developed Catalyst drivers that have eventually provided OpenGL support for gaming with older games per customer request.  nVidia has responded to their public in a similar manner.  How Gigabyte has responded to this issue is problematic so examine the driver specs and/or contact the manufacturer directly to find out. The generation of your driver has everything to do with the scope of its coverage and needs to be determined.

If you've played without similar problems on an older machine, a temporary swap in of the legacy card and driver that worked and then a vanilla server test run would reveal a lot for you.  If all goes fine, you've uncovered the source of the problem.   

[DeathWarding]

Rubies wrote...

My standard list of suggestions for people having lag:

1) Turn off Hardware Sound;
2) Turn off Shiny Water;
3) Try running the game in a window;
4) ...yeah, that's all I have.

How do i turn off hardware sound?   

I have not found the SLI settings on my PC,  is it in the catalyst control panel? or in my GPU's settings?

Im not sure what a "Vanilla test version" is.   But yea it worked good on the old system.

I have not ran it into a window yet to see it that works,  i forgot how.

I know there something i can do.  I don't want to give up on this.

it says its got some version of open GL  Ive got the newest direct X i beleive,  11. 

Modifié par DeathWarding, 24 mars 2012 - 03:15 .

[DeathWarding]

Knight_Shield wrote...

I have i5 and did not do the cpu change.
I suspect it something to do with your graphics card.I think you have graphics on your processor?Try using those to test.

How do  i that?

[Gorath Alpha]

All i3, i5, and i7 CPUs have Intel graphics included, but the ports for those are going to be on the motherboard, and since this is a desktop build, the display should be attached to the port on the video card. SLI is strictly nVIDIA. "Crossfire" is AMD's dual-GPU system.

The HD 7870, TTBOMK, has only a single GPU aboard.

[Rolo Kipp]

<peeking in...>

DeathWarding wrote...
How do i turn off hardware sound?  

In the game, hit the escape key... Then click Sound Options...

I have not found the SLI settings on my PC,  is it in the catalyst control panel? or in my GPU's settings?

Im not sure what a "Vanilla test version" is.   But yea it worked good on the old system.

Vanilla just means without any custom/fancy stuff... :-P

I have not ran it into a window yet to see it that works,  i forgot how.

This Thread explains it pretty neatly ;-)

I know there something i can do.  I don't want to give up on this.

it says its got some version of open GL  Ive got the newest direct X i beleive,  11. 

Don't give up :-)

But also make sure "Shiny Water" is turned off. There's always been problems with that:







<...and running away>

Modifié par Rolo Kipp, 24 mars 2012 - 04:34 .

[Skildron]

Your directX is too recent - nwn needs directX 9 which you can install alongside directX 11. The installer should be on your nwn disks.

Greetings
Skildron

[HipMaestro]

Skildron wrote...
Your directX is too recent - nwn needs directX 9 which you can install alongside directX 11.

I never picked up on that spec. Good catch, Skildron!  Udaman

As far as the terminology I've used above, "vanilla" - with regard to a NWN installation - means "without CEP, PRC or other haks or non-Bioware utilties".  In the same respect, a "vanilla" server would be a Persistant World that required only the standard default resources to play there... a good place to test a new installation.

The custom resources may demand either a higher graphics potential to render correctly or present a possible conflict with the default resources (the files that installed with the basic disc(s) and official Bioware patches).  I always recommend digesting resources in logical stages for new installations - first, what comes on the disc (for Diamond, it would be v1.66), then after each patch has been installed (users have reported that, at times, multiple attempts at patching are needed to get a pristine installation) and finally after installing each hak pack (CEP, etc.).  Though my approach may seem neurotic to some, it is an objective means to help identify many of the more common installation problems... and it works.

Modifié par HipMaestro, 24 mars 2012 - 09:29 .

[DeathWarding]

Hmm,  I tried reinstalling the game and CEP.    I still seem to have no luck here.   

How do i post screen shots on here? 

Maybe it will help if you guys see my config,  setts in nwn's ini and stuff.

Modifié par DeathWarding, 25 mars 2012 - 03:29 .

[Rolo Kipp]

<digging a hole...>

Create an album or project to hold your screenshots (My Content menu on the left). Upload your screenies (there is a 540 px width limit and a 250kb size limit, so crop and focus ;-P ).
Once uploaded, click on the screenie to view, then right-click to "copy image url".

When posting here (without any spaces) type [ img ] *image url* [ / img ]

<...and dropping a post in it>

[SuperFly_2000]

Shame you didn't buy a computer with an Nvidia card, which seems to work better with NWN. It has been all over theese boards but maybe you didn't look here first. Well shame but done is done even though buying a new graphics card alone is no guarantee it could work. I use a ready made HP computer. Call me lazy...but it works.....

Modifié par SuperFly_2000, 25 mars 2012 - 09:50 .

[DeathWarding]

FIXED!

I got the lag too stop.

However the glitchy'ness didn't go away. Like it still seems like a programs trying to open & cut in the back round of the game. But there's no more lag.

All i did was change the # of CPU affinity from the default 0 too -2.

Thank you all ever so much for all of the kind support. Once again I appreciate all of your time.

Thank you guy's. Once again another happy veteran nwn player can once play again.

Modifié par DeathWarding, 26 mars 2012 - 03:25 .

[mysticalkas]

Im not following some of the language. but i did do the windowed mode and took out shiny water and the hardware sound. i have a few questions though, how do i make the window larger, and what is the CPU affinity. If someone could assist i would greatly appriciate it.