Modifié par Wrathra, 23 mars 2012 - 11:22 .
Is ME 3 the last BioWare game you're buying?
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Stonesoundjam
, mars 23 2012 05:42
#351
Posté 23 mars 2012 - 11:21
If the don't fix the ending, yes.
#352
Posté 23 mars 2012 - 11:23
[quote] Hans-Erik wrote...
[quote]Wrathra wrote...
If the don't fix the ending, yes.
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[quote]Wrathra wrote...
If the don't fix the ending, yes.
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#353
Posté 23 mars 2012 - 11:24
The Angry One wrote...
It will be the last BioWare game I pre order that's for damn sure.
I might buy Dragon Age III after doing my research, and any further BioWare games will be taken with a large fistful of salt. I will also be extremely wary of any game where Casey Hudson and Mac Walters are on the team.
This
#354
Posté 23 mars 2012 - 11:25
That remains to be seen, honestly. I really want to believe that Bioware can pull this out of the fire. If they do, then it's business as usual. I'll gladly pick up any ME and DA games that come out, likely by pre-ordering CE's.
If not.... Well, I save a lot of money in the future.
If not.... Well, I save a lot of money in the future.
#355
Posté 23 mars 2012 - 11:26
At this rate, the longer this goes on and the deeper things go and more we get treated like the enemy rather than customers with a legitimate grievance by the industry as a whole. Yeah, it's looking likely.
EA has already screwed up The Sims 3 beyond redemption between the bugs and the social crap they're forcing on players. Now, this.
That's two of my favorite companies and now two of my favorite franchises that have turned to ashes since EA got their hooks into them.
EA has already screwed up The Sims 3 beyond redemption between the bugs and the social crap they're forcing on players. Now, this.
That's two of my favorite companies and now two of my favorite franchises that have turned to ashes since EA got their hooks into them.
#356
Posté 23 mars 2012 - 11:27
if they will not fix the ending, i'll never buy any Bioware games or DLC
#357
Posté 23 mars 2012 - 11:27
If ending stays as is: yes.
There is always Blizzard. They never let me down. And they don't slap dlcs all over their games too.
There is always Blizzard. They never let me down. And they don't slap dlcs all over their games too.
#358
Posté 23 mars 2012 - 11:27
Bioware has gone straight downhill since EA bought them, games have become dumbed down and mainstreamed in order to get more sales. My opinion has been dropping steadily since Dragon Age, DA2 was a huge disappointment, so many corners cut and choices taken away, ME2 wasn't terrible, but really lost a lot of the rpg feel from the first ME game.
Now with ME3, I actually enjoyed the game for the most part up until the end, the ending was so full of holes, the choices made amounted to nothing but a few more or less war assets, and a short little cutscene in some places, and it really just felt out of place.
The thing that really did it for me besides the ending was "action" mode, where you make no choices by yourself, the game just does it for you; that for me really highlighted the direction that EA has taken my once favorite game company. Everything now is about quantity, not quality, about selling as many copies to as many people as possible and then bombarding us with dlc to make more money. Not to mention purposely withholding content that you need a code for that you get only if you buy it new, if not, EA needs their cut so they punish you for buying used.
I stopped pre-ordering after Dragon Age, now I rent first. I made an exception for this game, I really wanted to see how Shepard's story ends, and I was quite disappointed. This will definitely be the last game I buy on release, other than that I'll just wait and pick it up for $10 like I did DA2 just to see what can be modded on the 360. Sorry for the rant, I'm just disappointed with the direction everything from this once great company has taken.
Now with ME3, I actually enjoyed the game for the most part up until the end, the ending was so full of holes, the choices made amounted to nothing but a few more or less war assets, and a short little cutscene in some places, and it really just felt out of place.
The thing that really did it for me besides the ending was "action" mode, where you make no choices by yourself, the game just does it for you; that for me really highlighted the direction that EA has taken my once favorite game company. Everything now is about quantity, not quality, about selling as many copies to as many people as possible and then bombarding us with dlc to make more money. Not to mention purposely withholding content that you need a code for that you get only if you buy it new, if not, EA needs their cut so they punish you for buying used.
I stopped pre-ordering after Dragon Age, now I rent first. I made an exception for this game, I really wanted to see how Shepard's story ends, and I was quite disappointed. This will definitely be the last game I buy on release, other than that I'll just wait and pick it up for $10 like I did DA2 just to see what can be modded on the 360. Sorry for the rant, I'm just disappointed with the direction everything from this once great company has taken.
#359
Posté 23 mars 2012 - 11:27
Wrathra wrote...
If the don't fix the ending, yes.
last EA game here
#360
Posté 23 mars 2012 - 11:27
Not at all, but it'll be the last one I pre-order (especially pre-order a CE for) without a lot of research.
#361
Posté 23 mars 2012 - 11:27
Not sure, If I had to choose at the very moment between Dragon Age 3 and Fallout 4, I would go with Fallout 4.
In the past I would of taken Dragon Age: Awakening over most other games, Dragon Age: Awakening!
They can even announce a New Jade game, and I would most likely look away. However, this might change come April.
In the past I would of taken Dragon Age: Awakening over most other games, Dragon Age: Awakening!
They can even announce a New Jade game, and I would most likely look away. However, this might change come April.
#362
Posté 23 mars 2012 - 11:29
No its not, bioware has a proven track record of great games, TKOTOR, ME1, ME2 and imo ME3.The Dragon age games are very good too.
#363
Posté 23 mars 2012 - 11:31
Meh, I'll likely buy future Bioware games used for around $20-$30.
#364
Posté 23 mars 2012 - 11:33
I pre-ordered Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3. I felt let down after DA2, but feel utterly betrayed by ME3.
As it stands now:
I will never pre-order another Bioware title.
I will wait for fan reviews before I buy a Bioware title after launch.
I will wait for the reviews for the next 'part 3' before I buy the first game in any new Trilogy.
If they fix the endings, I will be much more amenable to buying future titles, but I will never listen to another lying word from Casey "Victorious and Uplifting" Hudson or Mike "Bioware will not do a 'Lost' (ending)" Gamble.
As it stands now:
I will never pre-order another Bioware title.
I will wait for fan reviews before I buy a Bioware title after launch.
I will wait for the reviews for the next 'part 3' before I buy the first game in any new Trilogy.
If they fix the endings, I will be much more amenable to buying future titles, but I will never listen to another lying word from Casey "Victorious and Uplifting" Hudson or Mike "Bioware will not do a 'Lost' (ending)" Gamble.
Modifié par Delkarnu, 23 mars 2012 - 11:34 .
#365
Posté 23 mars 2012 - 11:36
Depends on how they handle the ending. It is thoroughly broken as it is right now. Bioware made a mistake, I don't consider them the worst company in the world for it. Most of Mass Effect 3 was amazing and I enjoyed it immensely.
However if they charge me to fix their objectively broken ending or if they fail to listen to fans and make a half assed product, I'm done.
Regardless of their quality in the rest of ME3, if they as a business show me that my opinion doesn't matter and that they are fixing their mistake only because we forced them to, that is a business I simply don't want to contribute to anymore.
Even if most of the games they release after this point are good and would satisfy me, the complete lack of ethical standards it would take to force me to pay to fix something they broke would ensure I wouldn't buy another game from them.
As I said, at this point I am willing to forgive and forget this issue. If they had chosen to stick to their guns over this ending I would probably still buy a game from them (but warily). But I take issue with making me pay to fix someone else's mistake.
However if they charge me to fix their objectively broken ending or if they fail to listen to fans and make a half assed product, I'm done.
Regardless of their quality in the rest of ME3, if they as a business show me that my opinion doesn't matter and that they are fixing their mistake only because we forced them to, that is a business I simply don't want to contribute to anymore.
Even if most of the games they release after this point are good and would satisfy me, the complete lack of ethical standards it would take to force me to pay to fix something they broke would ensure I wouldn't buy another game from them.
As I said, at this point I am willing to forgive and forget this issue. If they had chosen to stick to their guns over this ending I would probably still buy a game from them (but warily). But I take issue with making me pay to fix someone else's mistake.
#366
Posté 23 mars 2012 - 11:38
Looks like it, yeah.
Mass Effect 3 was just too big a dissapointment for me. They can redeem themselves, but I strongly advise them, that they take feedback from their fans more seriously next time.
Mass Effect 3 was just too big a dissapointment for me. They can redeem themselves, but I strongly advise them, that they take feedback from their fans more seriously next time.
#367
Posté 23 mars 2012 - 11:38
I play games to get invested and have fun. Not end up feeling deeply depressed for a long time, feeling like I've wasted my time. So no, not getting any other bioware title, because I just don't trust them with my feelings anymore.
#368
Posté 23 mars 2012 - 11:38
I can't honestly say until I see what they have coming.
After Ray came out and lied about the BioWare Bazaar I was tempted not to buy their games again.
Then they released first day DLC for Dragon Age II that was ON the game disc (all you downloaded was a 10mb unlocker), with a character that I felt was more integral to the story than half the characters they gave you.
Now they have released first day DLC for ME3 that they claim was made by another team and etc. Well thats great, except the character is huge in the ME lore and is fully integrated into the entire game.
Then of course the ending of ME3. Now we will wait and see what they do about that.
But I can't honestly say if I won't buy another one of their games. There is however a pretty good chance I will no longer pre-order their games (Especially Dragon Age III), unless I see something fantastic in the interim. It is only because of my love for Mass effect and Dragon Age: Origins that I even buy their games after all the above crap. I blacklisted Ubisoft's games for much less. (Their DRM)
I also believe that Steam has spoiled me; getting great games for under ten dollars instead of spending $59.99 on an incomplete game that will have tons of DLC kind of puts me off the larger purchases.
After Ray came out and lied about the BioWare Bazaar I was tempted not to buy their games again.
Then they released first day DLC for Dragon Age II that was ON the game disc (all you downloaded was a 10mb unlocker), with a character that I felt was more integral to the story than half the characters they gave you.
Now they have released first day DLC for ME3 that they claim was made by another team and etc. Well thats great, except the character is huge in the ME lore and is fully integrated into the entire game.
Then of course the ending of ME3. Now we will wait and see what they do about that.
But I can't honestly say if I won't buy another one of their games. There is however a pretty good chance I will no longer pre-order their games (Especially Dragon Age III), unless I see something fantastic in the interim. It is only because of my love for Mass effect and Dragon Age: Origins that I even buy their games after all the above crap. I blacklisted Ubisoft's games for much less. (Their DRM)
I also believe that Steam has spoiled me; getting great games for under ten dollars instead of spending $59.99 on an incomplete game that will have tons of DLC kind of puts me off the larger purchases.
Modifié par GuardianofSouls, 23 mars 2012 - 11:48 .
#369
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 03:38
Without a change to the ending it probably is. The current ending will certainly stop me from buying any ME3 DLC.
#370
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 03:48
If they fix the ending, I will buy more games. I said "fix" the ending, not "clarify" Ghost Boy.
If that's all they do, then yes. This will be the last Bioware game I buy.
If that's all they do, then yes. This will be the last Bioware game I buy.
#371
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 04:13
Until they proven they can produce quality again without cutting artistic corners or making greedy DLC plays by diminishing their products then yes. I doubt they will salvage ME3 but maybe in a few years time, who knows. Maybe by then the concept of theme,narrative and options in RPG will have been forgotten by all so that we can no longer tell rushed content from quality anymore.
#372
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 04:14
Yep last one I'm preordering and quite likely buying, takes awhile for one to recover from this type of punch in the gut.
#373
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 04:18
Depends on 2 things:
1. Will they correct the ending in a satisfactory way and listen to their fans?
2. Will they include Harbinger in upcoming DLC?
If no to at least one of these questions, then I'm done with Bioware. If yes to both, then they have a repeat customer.
1. Will they correct the ending in a satisfactory way and listen to their fans?
2. Will they include Harbinger in upcoming DLC?
If no to at least one of these questions, then I'm done with Bioware. If yes to both, then they have a repeat customer.
#374
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 04:19
I wont pre order again that's for sure. Getting burned by the signature edition of DA2 and now the collectors edition of ME3 is enough of a lesson for me. I will wait until its been out a while next time.
#375
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 04:21
Even if they fix the ending, I think this is likely the last BioWare game for me. I wanted to see the end of Shepard's story (even if that end was terrible), and I did. I can only assume that the next big thing on the horizon for BioWare is DA3, and after DA2 I'd sooner flush my cash down the toilet than spend any more money on that series. BioWare might release some really fantastic stuff in the future, but after all of this I think I'll be just fine getting my RPG fix from Bethesda and CD Projekt.





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