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[DoctorCrowtgamer]

Mesmurae wrote...

Bioware is doing the equivalent of polishing a turd.

I'm not paying for the ending DLC unless they CHANGE it.

Thank you.

Please keep holding the line people it will take time but if we all hold Bioware will have to make new endings they are just trying to buy us off with this.  If we don't buy it they will see they can't get away with that and will have to start work on new endings

Hold the line until we get what we were told would be in the game in the first place.

Please check out this group and join in.

http://social.biowar...ndex/10317489/1

Thank you for your time.

[Heather Cline]

I want the original 16 endings. A Lawyer friend of mine told me that the only way to really get Bioware to listen is to either get everyone who hates the endings to file complaints with the FTC or to get a lawyer and file a class action lawsuit. By doing one, the other or both we will force Bioware to listen. Because EA will not want to be sued and the press coverage would ruin not only Bioware and EA's reputation as a whole but it will force other game companies and other businesses over all to accept that games are not Art but are a product and that false advertisement is illegal.

This is what I was told.

Bioware seems to not be listening so do what you want with the information I just gave you. I won't be buying any of their DLC and I won't be accepting their so called DLC for explanation and closure. I want what was promised in the Ad and PR campaign for the game before the game was launched.

Anything less will allow Bioware to win.

[kalasaurus]

If it's free I'll get it, but I guess that's expecting too much. I really suspect that getting an explanation for THAT ending will just frustrate me even more.

I'll pay for a changed ending of course.

Is it too late to join Hold the Line?

Modifié par GlassElephant, 24 mars 2012 - 04:36 .

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

I'm not sure I'd take the advice of a lawyer on whether or not it's smart to sue someone as part of a "PR" campaign...

Modifié par PKchu, 24 mars 2012 - 04:36 .

[Mesmurae]

Dridengx wrote...

What interesting is I recall many people complaining they didn't understand the ending, its even in the thread ME3's ending in one word. a lot are saying confused, what, huh, etc I see a lot of you using space magic, star child, why is normandy here, joker there, my team got there how, etc etc sounds like either

1) You guys are whining for the sake of trying to convince people the ending was bad for your agenda for a new one. Never wanting clarification at all, just claiming to.

2) You actually wanted some clarity but now changed your minds, which goes with the saying never happy with what you are given.

If you want to be taken serious and truly want something from Bioware, you need to atleast have one solid voice instead of people carrying your sigs and spewing opposite agendas.

Hold the line, I want a happy ending

Hold the line, I want a new ending

Hold the line, I want the plotholes fixed

Hold the line, I want a 'better' ending

Hold the line, I want the whole story rewritten

it's endless. Put yourself in Bioware's shoes lol

I find it highly doubtful that Bioware will be able to clarify their current ending without heavily employing more of their Cosmic Sorcery.

But thank you for your input. What did you like most about this thread?

[KingKhan03]

Dridengx wrote...

What interesting is I recall many people complaining they didn't understand the ending, its even in the thread ME3's ending in one word. a lot are saying confused, what, huh, etc I see a lot of you using space magic, star child, why is normandy here, joker there, my team got there how, etc etc sounds like either

1) You guys are whining for the sake of trying to convince people the ending was bad for your agenda for a new one. Never wanting clarification at all, just claiming to.

2) You actually wanted some clarity but now changed your minds, which goes with the saying never happy with what you are given.

If you want to be taken serious and truly want something from Bioware, you need to atleast have one solid voice instead of people carrying your sigs and spewing opposite agendas.

Hold the line, I want a happy ending

Hold the line, I want a new ending

Hold the line, I want the plotholes fixed

Hold the line, I want a 'better' ending

Hold the line, I want the whole story rewritten

it's endless. Put yourself in Bioware's shoes lol

They won't be able to clarify without rendering ME1 and ME2 irrelevant simply because of the starchild. Dude they just messed up the ending why can't we agree on that?

[granyte]

if the content they are planing to release fit with these two condition

1 is free
2 find a way that is coherant to explain away the plot holes created

then i can consider it as what i'm looking for . how ever fixing the amount of plot holes created in a simple clarification in doubt it but still i could not belive they could screw as much as they did in the last 5 minutes of a game

[Heather Cline]

PKchu wrote...

I'm not sure I'd take the advice of a lawyer on whether or not it's smart to sue someone as part of a "PR" campaign...

Actually it's illegal to make promises in a Ad/PR campaign and not deliver. Bioware made promises and then did not keep them. Thus they broke the law. So we would be well within our rights to sue Bioware for false advertisement and a incomplete product.

Just saying.

[KingKhan03]

I swear the plotholes give me a headache sometimes ITS SO BLATANT i don't understand how someone could miss them!?!?!?

[Richard 060]

Unless the Star-Child sequence is drastically re-written, then no amount of hand-waving in any DLC epilogues will make up for the fact that the ending doesn't make a lick of sense.

Between the misuse of science by whoever wrote the scene, and the circular arguments and generalisations (all of which are so very easy to refute, and it's mind-boggling how we're expected to take all this bull***t as fact without so much as a query), there's no way the current ending can be considered to be 'well written', and so any 'explanation' would be a waste of time. There's nothing to explain.

[Dridengx]

Mesmurae wrote...

But thank you for your input. What did you like most about this thread?

My comment ofcourse

[Byrdman]

sth128 wrote...

It's like offering a vegetarian a more elaborate meat loaf when he complained the original meat loaf is unacceptable...

As a vegetarian, this made me laugh out loud. 

[liggy002]

expansion to the current ending is acceptable, but only if the current endings were a dream because as it is, there is NO WAY that Bioware can explain them that will allow them to make sense unless the ending was a dream or indoctrination attempt.

[yahtzo]

Yeah. Won't be paying for an "explanation" on the current endings they puked out.

[blitzing bear]

Clarification does not a good ending make. Everything about this ending is bad, the fact that it is a nonsensical barrage of garbage is not even one of the major issues.

[dreman9999]

But the problem with the ending was that it was not clear.

[Powerpetzi]

sth128 wrote...

It's like offering a vegetarian a more elaborate meat loaf when he complained the original meat loaf is unacceptable...

I laughed out loud.

More importantly, a "clarification DLC" will not pry money from my wallet, no sir.


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dreman9999 wrote...

But the problem with the ending was that it was not clear.

That is ONE of the MANY problems.

Modifié par Powerpetzi, 24 mars 2012 - 04:54 .

[Hunter_Wolf]

dreman9999 wrote...

But the problem with the ending was that it was not clear.

Pretty much this. 

Poor writing when it came to dialog, not gunna lie, but the issue was clarity and context. I was expecting more in future DLC that would address what was going on. Unfortunatley I don't see the DLC adding more dialog to make things more believeable but they could add more closure that could redeem the whole mess. I just want my Shepard to wake up so he can kick Harbinger's ass.

[-Skorpious-]

forsaken gamer wrote...

"DO NOT accept nor pay for clarification"


I'm with you.  Rewrite!

While rewrite is definitely the best possible outcome, I think we have to let go of the notion that Bioware is going to invalidate the current options for those who actually like the endings. 

I firmly believe the best we can hope for at this point are additional endings that coexist alongside the ones we were given already, but are substantially different. 

Modifié par -Skorpious-, 24 mars 2012 - 04:57 .

[Apocsapel91]

Silent Rage wrote...

I swear talking to bioware is like talking to a brick wall.

I contend that it is like talking to a cat.  It knows you're saying something, but it neither understands nor cares what you're saying.

[HenchxNarf]

I'm pretty sure at least half of these people will buy the DLC, but just not admit that they did.

However, this is what I figured would happen. Bioware told you what you're pretty much getting and yet it's still unacceptable to you.

[movieguyabw]

Don't intend on purchasing anything less than new endings entirely. Particularly a happy one. I wouldn't mind them keeping the ones they already have, now, as long as they were explained, and were only the worst case scenario ends. No way am I paying for anything if the doom and gloom ends are all we get.

Probably am going to wait for public opinion, as well, before I make a commitment to downloading, at this point. That twitter post has me worried, and Bioware are obviously going to sugarcoat whatever they show at PAX to make it sound appealing for the crowd.

Bioware, you're a great company, but really don't want to play a (in my case) over 200 hour trilogy, if my character, and everyone they love has to die at the end. It's cool if it's an option. But it shouldn't be the only option.

Hold the line!

[Megachaz]

Although I won't download the "clarification" even if it is free, I'm pretty sure that's all we'll ever get. It will be enough to convince some people, and by the time it actually rolls around, everyone else will be too tired of this whole scenario to do anything about it.