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#126
PeterG1

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I have to say I agree.

At first I liked the endings and I don't think it'd be fair, even now, to get rid of them entirely.

But the BW guys are insanely creative, I know they can handle it. Keep the current endings, but add on more, please. This is the end of the trilogy, right? So can't we have 16 completely distinct and original endings? Including perhaps a few happy or happier ones too?

That not only should make everyone happy, but would also add to BioWare's already established image of making creative, innovative stories that really measure player choices and consequences.

Modifié par PeterG1, 24 mars 2012 - 05:18 .


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movieguyabw

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PeterG1 wrote...

I have to say I agree.

At first I liked the endings and I don't think it'd be fair, even now, to get rid of them entirely.

But the BW guys are insanely creative, I know they can handle it. Keep the current endings, but add on more, please. This is the end of the trilogy, right? So can't we have 16 completely distinct and original endings? Including perhaps a few happy or happier ones too?

That not only should make everyone happy, but would also add to BioWare's already established image of making creative, innovative stories that really measure player choices and consequences.


I like this human.  He understands.  :D

#128
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Mesmurae wrote...

Bioware is doing the equivalent of polishing a turd.

I'm not paying for the ending DLC unless they CHANGE it.


100% Accurate. 

I don't remember even a small fraction of the complaints about the ending being that it "wasn't clear" it was just that the ending sucked for...gods how many 10's of thousands of words have we all elaborated on the reasons why at this point> 

I'd be willing to pay for a (well done) new ending, but I won't even bother with this "explanation" crap; they do that and I'll be too busy burying my old loyalty to bioware...

#129
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..........You do relies this was part of there plan this hole time......the ending was ment to be DLC so they never put it on the disc. Mike the writer sed he wanted people to make there own endings before he released there's, Hell hes the reason we have so many fanfics now.

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Bioware seems content to merely add 'clarification' and 'provide closure' with the current ending of the game.

I don't really see the point. It won't stop the universe from being clearly left in ruins with countless allies dying horribly and never to return home, but oh well. And nevermind if you just committed mass genocide against all synthetic races the narrative worked so hard for 40 hours to define to you their 'humanity'.  Or you could 'become' the Reapers instead, that sounds fun.

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Renoscott

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Bathaius wrote...

Bioware seems content to merely add 'clarification' and 'provide closure' with the current ending of the game.

I don't really see the point. It won't stop the universe from being clearly left in ruins with countless allies dying horribly and never to return home, but oh well. And nevermind, if you just committed mass genocide against all synthetic races the narrative worked so hard for 40 hours to define to you their 'humanity'.

If you havent seen the indotrination theroy it esplanes alot

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Necrotron

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But hey, shooting stuff is fun!

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-Skorpious- wrote...
Bioware, you can keep the current endings as they are, but offer us additional DLC endings that coexist with the ones currently present in the game. Detailing a set of endings that have received universal hate by a significant portion of your fanbase won't win back our support (if we didn't like it the first time why would the second be any better?).


Acceptable to me, I can say.  If we're going this way though, add in an optional harbinger final boss please?

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sth128 wrote...

It's like offering a vegetarian a more elaborate meat loaf when he complained the original meat loaf is unacceptable...


Holy sh*t, son, you just put this in perspective.

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Renoscott

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The_Crazy_Hand wrote...

-Skorpious- wrote...
Bioware, you can keep the current endings as they are, but offer us additional DLC endings that coexist with the ones currently present in the game. Detailing a set of endings that have received universal hate by a significant portion of your fanbase won't win back our support (if we didn't like it the first time why would the second be any better?).


Acceptable to me, I can say.  If we're going this way though, add in an optional harbinger final boss please?

....thats what this DLc is going to be..... have you guys had your head in a trashcan for the past 42hours?

#136
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I guess it depends on what the clarification is.

If it's just a cutscene showing all the fleets and cities starving to death without the supplies imported from the Mass Relays, it won't exactly be satisfying.

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I have seen indoctrination theory. It is all, but debunked by the Bioware staff. Interesting fan collection of ideas, but not the writers' intent.

It is really the only thing I hold on to when I finish the game. But that merely means, the Reapers are not yet defeated! And the game isn't over!

It doesn't matter. Mass Effect is an epic space tragedy.

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The_Crazy_Hand

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Renoscott wrote...

....thats what this DLc is going to be..... have you guys had your head in a trashcan for the past 42hours?


That's a wide stretch to say that "clarifications" = alternate ending + fight and kill Harbinger.

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Renoscott

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Bathaius wrote...

I have seen indoctrination theory. It is all, but debunked by the Bioware staff. Interesting fan collection of ideas, but not the writers' intent.

It is really the only thing I hold on to when I finish the game. But that merely means, the Reapers are not yet defeated! And the game isn't over!

It doesn't matter. Mass Effect is an epic space tragedy.

from what I heard it hasnt been debunked or even commented on by bioware. And indeed that is true from what it seams the DLC will be the "Final fight" and the fans WILL get all of what they wanted

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I normally hate ret-conning. As bad as something is, I always feel like that canon and has to be maintained, explained. I find myself trying to figure out how I feel about something games can have that other mediums don't: the rushed ending. I have no idea if ME3 was actually rushed or not, but in that light, maybe I might be okay with a full on ret-con.

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Spectre-00N7 wrote...

We need to get the entire movement to come up with exactly what we want as an ending though. That way they cannot be confused.


Ahh but this is one of the biggest problems with the current ending. Everyone got the same ending. Hell if these endings existed, but there were others, that were actually different then we might have been satisfied. Uniting under one ending won't do any good. They are going to have to figure out how to finish everyones story so that it reflects at least some of the choices you made.

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Renoscott wrote...

from what I heard it hasnt been debunked or even commented on by bioware. And indeed that is true from what it seams the DLC will be the "Final fight" and the fans WILL get all of what they wanted


Oh really? I thought their original DLC plan was only things that happened before the ending? Well, that and multiplayer maps.

EDIT: I mean before The Broker Base rails at all.

Modifié par MeganHunter, 24 mars 2012 - 05:40 .


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QwertyMusicMan

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If you're going to do ending DLC, this is the way to go, Bioware.

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sth128 wrote...

It's like offering a vegetarian a more elaborate meat loaf when he complained the original meat loaf is unacceptable...


This. SO MUCH THIS!

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Renoscott wrote...

from what I heard it hasnt been debunked or even commented on by bioware. And indeed that is true from what it seams the DLC will be the "Final fight" and the fans WILL get all of what they wanted


Got any proof of this? If not, its speculation.

They aren't changing the ending, just clarifying on the ending.

Modifié par HenchxNarf, 24 mars 2012 - 05:44 .


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ShepnTali wrote...

If you murder a franchise, clarification won't cut it.



This ^

If this tweet is true, I'm not buying it until I see fan reviews at the very least.. and even then I will be wary.

I pray that this tweet is not true.

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If its clarification endings that just add dialogue and a few extra scenes onto what was already given then it should be free and really make clear why joker was doing what he was doing and skip the whole grandfather thing and why isn't Harbi our boss like he's suppose to be?

But anyway if they give us an expansion pack that has more levels, more endings that are also varied, additional quality add on content to the LIs, explains completely the Lazarus project in very detailed format, and basically ads 2 -4 hours of new things in general then if good I'll buy it if not then I won't. Of course if it really spellsout everything on the LP along with shep gaining deep character development and if he has an LI development with them too then I'll buy it on that alone.

Modifié par thehomeworld, 24 mars 2012 - 05:47 .


#148
The_Crazy_Hand

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Renoscott wrote...
from what I heard it hasnt been debunked or even commented on by bioware. And indeed that is true from what it seams the DLC will be the "Final fight" and the fans WILL get all of what they wanted


If you can post some serious proof of that, it will likely end the drama, but for now I remain skeptical.

Modifié par The_Crazy_Hand, 24 mars 2012 - 05:45 .


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Reptilian Rob

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Hell yes!

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The Angry One wrote...

I will gladly pay for new endings.
I will not even look at "clarification" for the existing nihilistic garbage they call an ending.


Well said.