Again, what is there to clarify?
The end as-is MAKES NO SENSE. In fact, it's worse than that. Everything the Star-Child says as 'fact' can be completely dismissed as rampant speculation with plenty of FACTS to the contrary.
But no - we've got to take it all at face value. And now we can look forward to epilogues to provide 'closure' and 'clarificiation'...
...to complete NONSENSE.
DO NOT accept nor pay for clarification
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#177
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 06:27
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This is a minimum effort by Bioware. If it turns out to just be clarification then I will not buy.
#178
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 06:28
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If it's only a clarification then I'll take it as Bioware giving us another giant middle finger and expecting us to like it.
#179
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 06:28
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Can't buy anything,... money spent... I can't believe how at peace I am with the endings now.
#180
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 06:28
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I won't be paying for clarification. I'll watch it on youtube.
I will pay for alternate endings + clarification of the current ones, if they keep them.
I will pay for alternate endings + clarification of the current ones, if they keep them.
#181
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 06:29
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Richard 060 wrote...
Again, what is there to clarify?
The end as-is MAKES NO SENSE. In fact, it's worse than that. Everything the Star-Child says as 'fact' can be completely dismissed as rampant speculation with plenty of FACTS to the contrary.
But no - we've got to take it all at face value. And now we can look forward to epilogues to provide 'closure' and 'clarificiation'...
...to complete NONSENSE.
Clarification:
Spacekid: "The created will always destroy the creators."
Shepard: "Why?"
Spacekid: "Because I said so."
Shepard: "Oh, I see your logic. Please continue."
#183
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 06:30
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movieguyabw wrote...
Richard 060 wrote...
Again, what is there to clarify?
The end as-is MAKES NO SENSE. In fact, it's worse than that. Everything the Star-Child says as 'fact' can be completely dismissed as rampant speculation with plenty of FACTS to the contrary.
But no - we've got to take it all at face value. And now we can look forward to epilogues to provide 'closure' and 'clarificiation'...
...to complete NONSENSE.
Clarification:
Spacekid: "The created will always destroy the creators."
Shepard: "Why?"
Spacekid: "Because I said so."
Shepard: "Oh, I see your logic. Please continue."
lol, that's probably what's gonna happen in a nutshell.
#184
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 06:38
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No offense, but I will do what I want with my money... If that involves paying for DLC, so be it.
#185
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 07:03
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Yanno after a lot of thought...I'd be happy if Shepard really did die in the end. My preference would be that she/he(Have both) live out the remainder of his/her life with the respective love interests as a hero.
What I am not, nor will I EVER be okay with is how Shepard, a hero that's fought for years to preserve galactic civilization in its current form.(Namely the mass relay's...and the community).
From the Turian Krogan alliance(and curing Wrex's people)...Making peace between the Qurians and the Geth...
Suddenly decides to save all I've been fighting for I have to DESTROY IT, by blowing up the mass relay's. That's the same kind of idiotic logic Godchild uses. Oh and how he, nor shepard make no mention of the Geth and Qurians now sharing a Planet together peacefully.
The ending as it stands undercuts EVERYTHING I accomplish throughout the entire game. Try to pass it off as an artistic ending if you like. Its not. Its Rubbish.
Here's clarification for you Bioware. My Shepard would've told Godchild to blow it out his ass and ordered(Or pass word to Hackett) the fleet to start focus firing on Harbinger and the Citadel. That's MY solution to the crap choices you forced on me that had absolutely -nothing- to do with my war assets, the build up of military forces or anything else I did along the way.
Why the Citadel you ask? Because its my solution to Godchild.
I would've much preferred an ending where Shepard uses the Citadel as a weapon, sending out a pulse like what disabled Sovereign, like when Saren died...to the non nonsensical crap I had to watch. THAT would've been a meaningful ending. Bittersweet because Shepard died, but gave the combined fleets a fighting chance to blow those bastards to hell and gone.
I'm sorry, clarifying a bad ending still leaves us with a bad ending. If the creators of Fallout 3 can admit their ending was bad and fix it...why in gods name can't you?
TL:DR verison. If you have to clarify your ending its not a good ending. Let alone one that takes everything the players done over 90+ hrs of gametime and throws it out the window.
What I am not, nor will I EVER be okay with is how Shepard, a hero that's fought for years to preserve galactic civilization in its current form.(Namely the mass relay's...and the community).
From the Turian Krogan alliance(and curing Wrex's people)...Making peace between the Qurians and the Geth...
Suddenly decides to save all I've been fighting for I have to DESTROY IT, by blowing up the mass relay's. That's the same kind of idiotic logic Godchild uses. Oh and how he, nor shepard make no mention of the Geth and Qurians now sharing a Planet together peacefully.
The ending as it stands undercuts EVERYTHING I accomplish throughout the entire game. Try to pass it off as an artistic ending if you like. Its not. Its Rubbish.
Here's clarification for you Bioware. My Shepard would've told Godchild to blow it out his ass and ordered(Or pass word to Hackett) the fleet to start focus firing on Harbinger and the Citadel. That's MY solution to the crap choices you forced on me that had absolutely -nothing- to do with my war assets, the build up of military forces or anything else I did along the way.
Why the Citadel you ask? Because its my solution to Godchild.
I would've much preferred an ending where Shepard uses the Citadel as a weapon, sending out a pulse like what disabled Sovereign, like when Saren died...to the non nonsensical crap I had to watch. THAT would've been a meaningful ending. Bittersweet because Shepard died, but gave the combined fleets a fighting chance to blow those bastards to hell and gone.
I'm sorry, clarifying a bad ending still leaves us with a bad ending. If the creators of Fallout 3 can admit their ending was bad and fix it...why in gods name can't you?
TL:DR verison. If you have to clarify your ending its not a good ending. Let alone one that takes everything the players done over 90+ hrs of gametime and throws it out the window.
Modifié par Zenyattaa, 24 mars 2012 - 07:24 .
#186
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 07:06
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I can't say whether clarification will be enough until I've actually seen it. And I'm wondering how they are going to explain synthesis.
Anyway, if what they provide gives me satisfaction, it doesn't really matter what it is. If they explain everything in a satisfying way and show me what happens with the rest of the galaxy and my squadmates in a believable way then I might be satisfied.
Anyway, if what they provide gives me satisfaction, it doesn't really matter what it is. If they explain everything in a satisfying way and show me what happens with the rest of the galaxy and my squadmates in a believable way then I might be satisfied.
#187
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 07:18
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I strongly doubt that clarification will be well received.
Honestly i just can't see it working, it will just make things worse, unless they go with the indoc theory.
I'll wait patiently and hold the line. I'm however somewhat incline to think they want to make a decent ending. We just have to continue to show them with civilty why the current one is not.
Honestly i just can't see it working, it will just make things worse, unless they go with the indoc theory.
I'll wait patiently and hold the line. I'm however somewhat incline to think they want to make a decent ending. We just have to continue to show them with civilty why the current one is not.
#188
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 07:22
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It is not a question of paying for DLC, but paying for a DLC clarifying the current ending. We are not expecting clarifications for something that doesn't makes sense, nor explanations for the whole nihilistic ideology that comes from the last dialogue with the statchild and the 3 solutions he offers.Ubergrog wrote...
No offense, but I will do what I want with my money... If that involves paying for DLC, so be it.
#189
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 07:25
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I'm with all the people who are wondering just what there is to clarify.... I mean we get the ending. It's just that that it was terrible and full of plot holes, and we were also promised 16 different endings.... not 1 with 3 different colors. Kinda hard to clarify anything.....
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#190
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 08:17
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Richard 060 wrote...
Again, what is there to clarify?
The end as-is MAKES NO SENSE. In fact, it's worse than that. Everything the Star-Child says as 'fact' can be completely dismissed as rampant speculation with plenty of FACTS to the contrary.
But no - we've got to take it all at face value. And now we can look forward to epilogues to provide 'closure' and 'clarificiation'...
...to complete NONSENSE.
Well said this is just bioware trying to buy us off before they are forced tro create real endings. If we don't buy extended versions of the endings we have now they will have to make new endings because they need us back.
Please hold the line for as long as it takes to get new endings.
Please check out this group and join in.
http://social.biowar...ndex/10317489/1
Thank you for your time.
#191
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 08:26
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If "clarification" means the star child still exists or the Reapers are still neutered as villains, I'm not paying for anything. I can't stand this crap as it is. If they keep the Star Child it better be because he was a hallucination, because his existence is insulting to my intelligence.
I don't need all of these MacGuffins and deus ex machinas and twist endings for me to appreciate or understand your story, BioWare. These plot devices are contrived and overused. Have faith in your fanbase. Our ability to pay attention to story is already much greater than the average gamer. If not, we wouldn't be playing a highly detailed, story-driven RPG.
Please, get rid of this crap! I can't stand it anymore! I just want to pick up ME1, 2, or 3 and have that old love again. I once thought that nothing could happen to ruin these games for me, that I could pick up ME1 and play through the entire trilogy anytime, any day, regardless of how many times I'd already done so.
Now I can't even touch them! I've played ME1 and 2 at least 20 times to completion. Yet, looking at them now makes me sad and angry and hopeless all at the same time. This trilogy could have been legendary! And it might still be, but it will ALWAYS be remembered for ending on a sour, unhappy, controversial note.
Why do this to yourselves? If not for us, as fans and paying customers, then for yourselves so that in twenty or forty years you don't look at this unfinished masterpiece and regret what was and what could have been.
I don't need all of these MacGuffins and deus ex machinas and twist endings for me to appreciate or understand your story, BioWare. These plot devices are contrived and overused. Have faith in your fanbase. Our ability to pay attention to story is already much greater than the average gamer. If not, we wouldn't be playing a highly detailed, story-driven RPG.
Please, get rid of this crap! I can't stand it anymore! I just want to pick up ME1, 2, or 3 and have that old love again. I once thought that nothing could happen to ruin these games for me, that I could pick up ME1 and play through the entire trilogy anytime, any day, regardless of how many times I'd already done so.
Now I can't even touch them! I've played ME1 and 2 at least 20 times to completion. Yet, looking at them now makes me sad and angry and hopeless all at the same time. This trilogy could have been legendary! And it might still be, but it will ALWAYS be remembered for ending on a sour, unhappy, controversial note.
Why do this to yourselves? If not for us, as fans and paying customers, then for yourselves so that in twenty or forty years you don't look at this unfinished masterpiece and regret what was and what could have been.
#192
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 08:30
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The Angry One wrote...
I will gladly pay for new endings.
I will not even look at "clarification" for the existing nihilistic garbage they call an ending.
#193
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 08:39
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Guys?
Starbaby is STAYING. Accept it.
Anything that comes will NOT remove ANYTHING you saw on the screen. It may change its meaning, (i.e. perhaps further support or confirm indoctrination) but that's it.
But you were never....EVER....in a million years going to get them to just...wipe out what you saw.
Starbaby is STAYING. Accept it.
Anything that comes will NOT remove ANYTHING you saw on the screen. It may change its meaning, (i.e. perhaps further support or confirm indoctrination) but that's it.
But you were never....EVER....in a million years going to get them to just...wipe out what you saw.
#194
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 08:48
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Yeah I don't want what we have replaced I just want more options like being able to call the Starchild out.
Check out my outline for a new ending.
http://social.biowar...ndex/10543996/1
Hold the line for as long as it takes to get new endings.
Please check out this group and join in.
http://social.biowar...ndex/10317489/1
Thank you for your time.
Check out my outline for a new ending.
http://social.biowar...ndex/10543996/1
Hold the line for as long as it takes to get new endings.
Please check out this group and join in.
http://social.biowar...ndex/10317489/1
Thank you for your time.
#195
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 08:51
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I'll wait and see what this "closure" and "clarification" is before I truly dismiss it. Could end up being quite good. Ya never know.
#196
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 08:55
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/Salute
I'm no fan of the endings and I certainly hope we get new ones- but I am content with clarity, so long as it doesn't make the situation even more bleak. I will not pay for it though. I can see paying for new ending content, but clarity is something we already paid for.
I'm no fan of the endings and I certainly hope we get new ones- but I am content with clarity, so long as it doesn't make the situation even more bleak. I will not pay for it though. I can see paying for new ending content, but clarity is something we already paid for.
#197
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 08:56
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It will not change the out come. So i will not download longer versions of the endings we have now.
Hold the line for as long as it takes to get new endings people.
Please check out this group and join in.
http://social.biowar...ndex/10317489/1
Thank you for your time.
Hold the line for as long as it takes to get new endings people.
Please check out this group and join in.
http://social.biowar...ndex/10317489/1
Thank you for your time.
#198
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 08:57
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Oh, clarification. Because we were to dumb to get it the first time ? Because all that is said around the endings is just a big misunderstanding on our part ? Good luck on filling those plotholes, Bioware. You'll need it.
#199
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 08:59
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"Hai guise, we know you think the ending blows, so here is further clarification on why the ending blows."
#200
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 09:00
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CYRAX470 wrote...
I'll wait and see what this "closure" and "clarification" is before I truly dismiss it. Could end up being quite good. Ya never know.
You know, I took the same kind of stance when EA was slaughtering the C&C franchise (that is, I gave them the benefit of the doubt). Spoiler alert: They killed it anyway.
