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#201
Tessa09

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While I would appreciate to here Bioware's justification and explanation for the current ending, the only thing I will be interested in paying for is additional content. In other words, alternate endings. I am curious to here BioWare's side, but curiosity =/= consumption. Consumption = Satisfying and new content.

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brusher225

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Silent Rage wrote...

I swear talking to bioware is like talking to a brick wall.


It's called denial.

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brusher225 wrote...

Silent Rage wrote...

I swear talking to bioware is like talking to a brick wall.


It's called denial.


You can always knock down a brick wall though. It is hard however to beat the Chewbacca defense.

#204
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i dont think many are planning to buy the dlc people happy with the ending wont care, so that what 5% out the window. and most of the people unhappy with the ending are unhappy becuase the ending makes no sense massive plot black holes, etc arnt going to buy something if it is as some suggest a defense of the ending.
I'll buy a new ending dlc, i wont be happy about. but id buy it as long as it gave me the choices they said i would have and included the possiblity to get a happy ending. if they cant do that well there is always fan fiction and it not hard to find some that is better than c urrent ending

#205
GigaTheToast

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I wonder how many times we need to hammer this idea into their head before they acknowledge it.

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sth128 wrote...

It's like offering a vegetarian a more elaborate meat loaf when he complained the original meat loaf is unacceptable...


Ooh, I like this analogy! But I think it's more like covering the original meatloaf in ketchup and then explaining to the vegetarian at length WHY they should find it delicious. After all, many professional critics gave the meatloaf a 10/10.

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Existing endings are unacceptable. Clarification will not help at all.
Besides, to clarfiy existing ending - mission impossible:) It is just not make any sense.

I hope they listen WITH UNDERSTANDING, not just listen....

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brusher225

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Generic Name wrote...

brusher225 wrote...

Silent Rage wrote...

I swear talking to bioware is like talking to a brick wall.


It's called denial.


You can always knock down a brick wall though. It is hard however to beat the Chewbacca defense.


Yes, it depends on, do they see what we want, and the errors they made? If so, are they willing to look beyound any personal egocentric issues they/he may have and fix the problem? 

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Generic Name wrote...

brusher225 wrote...

Silent Rage wrote...

I swear talking to bioware is like talking to a brick wall.


It's called denial.


You can always knock down a brick wall though. It is hard however to beat the Chewbacca defense.


We don't need any walls around us. Tear them down. Tear down the wall.

#210
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rinoe wrote...

Existing endings are unacceptable. Clarification will not help at all.
Besides, to clarfiy existing ending - mission impossible:) It is just not make any sense.

I hope they listen WITH UNDERSTANDING, not just listen....


Completely agree!

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sth128 wrote...

It's like offering a vegetarian a more elaborate meat loaf when he complained the original meat loaf is unacceptable...



#212
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They can't keep it up forever. Imagine the backlash when the "clarification" is released.

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I bought KoTOR 1 and 2, Jade Empire and the collector's editions of Mass Effect 1,2 and 3.

I've supported you Bioware as you grew, now listen to me...listen to us;
MULTIPLE FULL AND VARIED ENDINGS JUST LIKE YOU PROMISED US IN DEVELOPMENT!.

I have great respect for the entertainment you have given us with past titles, but this fiasco is inexcusable.
I'm barely hanging onto hope now by the fingernails after reading that tweet. I hope that you realise what a pivotal moment this is before its too late, because you'll be kissing the franchise nightynight if you shaft the fan-base on this.

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-Skorpious- wrote...

 The title is pretty obvious. If Bioware's plan to appease us is by adding onto the current endings, it proves that they are completely missing the point of our movement. Well, lets remind them. Again, and again, and again until they finally understand the purpose behind the movement -

Bioware, you can keep the current endings as they are, but offer us additional DLC endings that coexist with the ones currently present in the game. Detailing a set of endings that have received universal hate by a significant portion of your fanbase won't win back our support (if we didn't like it the first time why would the second be any better?).

If Bioware refuses to acknowledge our requests, simply refrain from purchasing any DLC until the true nature of our concerns are addressed in a professional and serious manner. In the mean time, remain vocal. Remain civil. Hold the line. 


: facepalm: just stop

you clearly have no idea what your talking about and quit acting like your this big macho movment guy because your not

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The Angry One wrote...

I will gladly pay for new endings.
I will not even look at "clarification" for the existing nihilistic garbage they call an ending.


Well, now I have to watch The Big Lebowski. Which is good, I haven't seen it yet this month.

#216
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I'll be waiting to see exactly what changes they are going to make before downloading any DLC.

I'd like to see them add a couple of different endings, as opposed to clarifying the current ones. A polished turd, is still a turd.

I don't mind the Starchild idea, but being presented with just 3 choices, all of which aren't particularly good and pretty much the same just didn't cut it.
Did remind me of Deus Ex: Invisible War, where none of the choices seemed like the right one.
No matter what choice you make, you're condemning the galaxy: If the Relays blow up, they would destroy most of the galaxy, as they are meant to explode like Supernovae. Not only that, after spending all that time brokering peace & uniting the galaxy to defend Earth, they're all stuck in our Solar System with no resources, so we can expect, famine, war and ultimately extinction.
How did the Normandy go from fighting on the front-line and your squad-mates also fighting on Earth's surface to a Relay jump with said squad-mates all miraculously on board ? Not only did they abandon Shepard for no reason, they were running from the actual battle for Earth, only to be marooned on an unknown garden planet with little hope of rescue/survival.
These questions need to be answered, not brushed-off for the sake of so-called "Art".

The indoctrination theory is an interesting one. Would make some sense the Starchild is actually Harbinger manipulating Shepard. However, I think it's a long-shot that BioWare will go with this idea.

Ultimately, I'm hoping they will add 2 or 3 DIFFERENT choices/endings after the Starchild dialogue. Would be nice to see a proper Paragon ending, or even a proper Renegade ending. Just a PROPER, no plot-holes, clear ending would be great. I just want CLOSURE.

Sadly, I think BioWare will stick with the current endings and just add a few extra cut-scenes to explain them better. They're going to stick by their creative decision and wont fully admit to getting it wrong, but they might make a few minor changes to appease the people who hated the endings.
I hope for more, but I'm not holding my breath.

I do feel sorry for BioWare though. They're in an almost impossible situation: If they change the endings with paid DLC, they'll be seen as money-grabbers. If they do nothing, they'll be seen as not listening to their fans. If they do something and it's still rubbish, then God help them !

I just hope whatever they do, they do it right and do it soon.

#217
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People please don't lose hope!

We are so close. If we hold the line they will have to start work on new games,this whole thing including the extended endings is PR spin to try and get us to back down. All we have to do to get what we were told would be in the game in the first place because they need us.

Just hold the line until we win.

Please check out this group and join in.

http://social.biowar...ndex/10317489/1

Thank you for your time.

#218
Paragon Auducan

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Bioware: What you don't understand is that Shepard was out for so and so many minutes, Joker flew down and told your squad it's what Shepard would want.

NO BIOWARE....NO!

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I'm actually kind of exited to see them try to explain that mess.

But I won't pay for anything less than a complete rewrite.

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clarification = youtube

No chance im paying for it

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DoctorCrowtgamer

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Thank you for holding the line until we get new endings.

Please check out this group and join in.

http://social.biowar...ndex/10317489/1

Thank you for your time.

#222
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Oh believe me, I won't. I will NOT, repeat, WILL NOT pay for clarification. However, I will pay if BioWare doesn't rush a new ending and takes the dedication, patience, time, and effort to listen to their fans and make the 16 ENDINGS THAT THEY PROMISED accordingly. The ending as of now would be fine, if it were a BAD ENDING, but as it stands, if they don't fix anything but attempt to explain it away with some silly interview, then they have lost me as a customer.

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brusher225 wrote...

Silent Rage wrote...

I swear talking to bioware is like talking to a brick wall.


It's called denial.


only enginer donley likes being a wall

#224
sH0tgUn jUliA

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Tony77A wrote...

I'm actually kind of exited to see them try to explain that mess.

But I won't pay for anything less than a complete rewrite.


Agreed. I mean what is the point of paying for any DLC unless they rewrite the ending?  Whoever wrote the ending to this game (censoring self).... The ending absolutely stinks. It sucks. It is an indescribably steaming pile of sewage that's been left out in the sun on a hot day. That's as close as I can get to the description.

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Clarification will be fine, thanks.

Enjoy your angry-ness though.