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Thetri wrote...

Theres nothing wrong with nude women. But the modding communities for Elder Scrolls games take it a little to far. Their characters end up becoming very unrealistic.

Of course, that is not necessarily bad.
In fact, I wouldnt want to stare at a REALISTIC nude model in a videogame. That would seem very weird to me, there is enough real-life porn if you want that. Having unrealistic things is the appeal of Videogames (I guess that is why my characters in Skyrim were all khajitiB))

The things they do are a little to perverted.

Some. But then, it is nothing compared to what you can find via google with the right keywords. Hint: Most of what you find comes from Asia.......

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Even though my own "canon" Shep is male, I also play as the gal, simply for more content.

And Mark Meer is fine, don't care what anyone says. I just guess Hale (while obviously very experienced and talented) and her "tough heavy smoker" doesn't appeal to me. Sometimes she even tries so hard it sounds like she's imitating some typical Gears of Wars action hero.:blink:

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When playing any game where the camera view is mostly third person, the butt is usually quite visible.

So? Afraid you might catch the ghey?

You do know might swing both ways after all if you can't can't stop focusing on a guy's butt or thinking about doing the nasty to it...:P

Also, I can't really fathom the entire "ass-showed-into-your-face" argument.
First off, it's not exactly visible under all the equipment (at least it was not in ME2) and combat makes like 60% of the game which positions the camera well ABOVE the offending part.:wizard:

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I'm a guy and I've never played as femShep. Might give it a whirl if Bioware fixes/finished that ending and see what the fuss is all about.

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To me it's sorta a difference between "this is my story" and "this is her story." Tabletop RPGs I tend to self-identify with the character more, and have never played a female character. Video games I tend to prefer female characters. Though my switching between 'I' and 'she' for my WoW character has temp. confused some guildies at times ('I'm' handling the adds, but 'she's' well geared, for example).

I like a story with a competent female lead. If there's any 'attraction' factor there it's 3 steps removed or something.

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I find women tasty, therefore I play female avatars in games. And, yes... it is as simple as I'd rather stare at a female's derrière than a dudes.

Oh and Jennifer Hale's voice acting is superb. Seriously....

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Avalla'ch wrote...
Also, I can't really fathom the entire "ass-showed-into-your-face" argument.
First off, it's not exactly visible under all the equipment


That is like going to the beach and saying breasts are not visible under all those bras.

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*Flame shield* They're just horny and they like to fantasize about their character. What everyone already knows. lol

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Seanylegit wrote...

*Flame shield* They're just horny and they like to fantasize about their character. What everyone already knows. lol


Mmmm hot lesbian action!! ^_^

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Seanylegit wrote...

*Flame shield* They're just horny and they like to fantasize about their character. What everyone already knows. lol


That's cute.  Is this your first attempt at tryig out this "trolling" thing you've heard so much about?

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spawnrofls wrote...

Because badass lesbos are awesome.


Uh...it's hard to argue with a statement like that!

But here's how I feel, if you don't feel like going to my link below to my "ME" fan blog and reading it! :)

From 2-9-12:  "FemShep...An Appreciation."

There have been many, many heroes of science fiction since Philip Francis Nowlan's classic, "Armageddon 2419 A.D.", the story that introduced us to Buck Rogers and Wilma Deering. There have been so many, in fact, it's not possible to list them all in a single blog. Sci-fi heroes come in many stripes, but the best of them are those who answer the call of one kind of duty or another, to serve the needs of others before serving themselves. No matter their motivations, their simple yet profound goal is to make a difference and bring the fantastic circumstances around them to a positive conclusion. As was classically stated in a much more contemporary mythology created by Gene Roddenberry, "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."

But it's those few heroes who always deserve our focus, no matter where they came from or what they're fighting. Taking the mythology of "Star Wars" alone, heroes can have very different roots from one another. Luke Skywalker was once a farmboy who dreamed of adventure. Han Solo was a consummate rogue and mercenary who looked out for his own concerns. Princess Leia was bonafide royalty who at first sympathized, and then at first clandestinely worked with the Rebellion that wanted to reinstate the Republic. All became heroes fighting for the same cause, the end of the Galactic Empire. Even Darth Vader became one of that mythology's heroes by resisting the Dark Side once and for all and sending Emperor Palpatine's evil ass down a reactor shaft to oblivion. (Let's discount who he once was, Hayden Christiansen's 'Annie' Skywalker, because HE was so damn annoying.)

The sci-fi hero always steps into the fire because no one else can...or so no one else has to. They lead with the one desire that others follow their example. In video games alone, we've seen our fair share of sci-fi heroes. Whether they had names like Samus Aran, Solid Snake and Jill Valentine or were simply nameless Space Marines, each made their mark in the hearts of minds of gamers in particular and geeks in general.

And that long line of heroes in video games has so far culminated in "Mass Effect's" Commander Shepard, who is truly unique in the sense that the gamer chooses what kind of hero he or she is. Just as there is more than one option to choose where Shepard came from -- but he or she will always be Human -- the gamer has even more options to decide the Commander's appearance, even whether or not to include facial scars from combat. There are even options for what kind of reputation this hero has, from being the sole survivor of a brutal event...to a war hero who faced pitched combat before and won...to someone cold in their efficiency, a soldier who always gets the mission accomplished, no matter what. Whichever of those beginnings you choose, Shepard is chosen at the start of "Mass Effect" to be a candidate for the extragovernmental Spectres, and the gamer's first challenge is to find out who or what is threatening the Human colony of Eden Prime and an artifact recently found there left by the long-extinct Protheans.

And brother, things only get more interesting from there.

But this blog is about the lynchpin of the events of the "Mass Effect" series, Commander Shepard.

This is also about how I see Shepard as a woman.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not a feminist. I'm a dude. Some things I learned worth knowing were from "Manswers" on Spike. I've done John Shepard. I've even done a MaleShep (ShepDude? Whatever!) with an appearance and name after mine: the character creation isn't perfect, and he looks more like my late dad than me, which is a little strange.

But I also believe in equality, and I have the purest respect for women. I find many kinds of women beautiful, and I'm not talking about the ones who are stick-thin like Kate Moss or mar their skin with tattoos that get in the damn way of their beauty. (Yes, I'm talking to you, Megan Fox.) I disdain the idea of plastic surgery, and I don't believe in there being a 'standard' for women being attractive. I find Lucy Liu as beautiful as Emma Stone, Jane Seymour as beautiful as Lauren Bacall, Tamlyn Tomita as beautiful as Alyson Hannigan, and so on.

In film, television and video games, you should know, I also can't enough of a woman who's strong enough to rise to the crisis and kick ass. You'd have to understand my love for the Girls With Guns films from Hong Kong of the 1980's and early 90's, films that starred Michelle Yeoh, Yukari Oshima, Moon Lee, Cynthia Rothrock and other amazing women who had heart-stopping looks and bone-busting martial arts ability. I feel like all is right in the world when I watch the Japanese epic "Azumi" and see Aya Ueto slashing scores of guys to bloody bits with her samurai sword. And yeah, I have a crush on Lynda Carter that won't ever stop. When I play video games, given the chance, I'd rather play the more attractive female character, like Jill Valentine or Claire Redfield or Chun-Li or Lara Croft. And it's not because I have a sicko 'thing'. I'd just rather look at someone beautiful fighting demons, aliens or what-have-you instead of another dude.

I started my first play through "Mass Effect" as a FemShep...the image below is a near-mirror of who I created, I can't kid about that. (She kind of resembles Linda Fiorentino from "Men in Black".) After I played the game as her, deciding what path she would take -- Paragon, cause I wasn't too comfortable with the Dark Side in "KOTOR" -- I played as another FemShep, this time on a Renegade course which wasn't exactly evil, but not saintly, either. Then I tried John Shepard. And I realized something.

Playing as FemShep made me care about playing the game more. I don't say that because she was simply an image of beauty. Because of those amazing folks at BioWare, the appeal of Shepard as a woman was more than (textured!) skin deep. And it's impossible to understate the amazing performance voice actress Jennifer Hale has provided so far as FemShep in the first two installments, and I anticipate even more awesomeness from her in the third. Jennifer gave Shepard not just emotion, but a heart and soul that only the best actresses give to their characters through voice. Whether all-business, gentle, or no-nonsense brutal given the occasion, Jennifer Hale's Commander Shepard just rang true in ways the dude Shepard couldn't. (With respect to Mark Meer as the male version, his performance was nearly wooden in comparison...but not as wooden as Keanu Reeves, though. NO ONE is as wooden as Keanu Reeves. He has to put effort into emoting, "Whoa!")

It doesn't matter where heroes come from...in the end, it matters what they can do in the time they have. So why should it matter if that hero is a man or a woman? Often, I'd say it's better and more satisfying to see a woman kick ass and save the day. I know there are a lot of guys who might say 'Bah!' at that thought. But I'm one of a lot of fans of the "Mass Effect" series who decided that maybe BioWare has been getting the box art with a guy as Shepard wrong from the start. The whole idea of the game is for us to not only decide how our adventure goes, but to create the kind of hero we want, right?

When it comes to Commander Shepard, I can only want a beautiful, strong and confident woman to lead the way.


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Random Geth wrote...

Seanylegit wrote...

*Flame shield* They're just horny and they like to fantasize about their character. What everyone already knows. lol


That's cute.  Is this your first attempt at tryig out this "trolling" thing you've heard so much about?


You know it's largely true, and sure, maybe you play FemShep and that's not your reasoning, but let's be real. Seriously.

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I played all the games as both male and female I do it just because it's a little different and offers something a little new when playing

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Jen Hale is a better voice actor. Well....in such games and my own subjective statistics females are usually the better voice actors. Also i support the idea of a bad ass female. However the facial expression on the default male shep are much better

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Simple,I want to see it all. All variables of the game.

But I prefer Sheploo.

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I assume it is to capture some pale echo of the fairer sex, because they are worshipped as Goddesses who rule over lesser mortals.

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Naughty Bear wrote...

Boobs and lesbians. Duh.


This pretty much sums it up. The first two games though, my first and second playthrough I'd use the default male shepard (non-defaults look like train-wrecks and don't fit Meer's voice) and then after that I'd use femshep for the sake of dialogue options and such. The games aren't drastically different depending on your gender but I like the different dialogue options. In the case of this game, I haven't finished my first playthrough yet (I've been playing sidequests and having a life, so it takes me a while), so I'm not sure what to do. Only thing I'm not looking forward to is James calling me Lola. That's going to drive me insane.

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Delta095 wrote...
Only thing I'm not looking forward to is James calling me Lola. That's going to drive me insane.


You can tell him to stop.

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I play femshep because I tried broshep and.. well comparing the two femshep just does a lot better job voicing my renegade shepard.

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The main reasons why I play femsheps have pretty much been posted already by someone else.

My very first Shepards were male. Then one time I decided to try out femShep, this was way before ME2 release. Found it good, liked the Hale's voice acting, romances were tad more interesting. I never quite liked Ashley, anyway. Hale-Shep quickly became my main Shep, which I imported to ME2 and then to ME3. Never managed to play any of my Meer-Sheps beyond ME1 after that. Even all my Dragon Age (Origins&2) characters are female.

It's aesthetically more pleasing and there was just something different being able to play female character, maybe reason was that the mainstream was filled with male protagonists already.

It's just a matter of preference.

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Tirigon wrote...

Thetri wrote...

Theres nothing wrong with nude women. But the modding communities for Elder Scrolls games take it a little to far. Their characters end up becoming very unrealistic.

Of course, that is not necessarily bad.
In fact, I wouldnt want to stare at a REALISTIC nude model in a videogame. That would seem very weird to me, there is enough real-life porn if you want that. Having unrealistic things is the appeal of Videogames (I guess that is why my characters in Skyrim were all khajitiB))

The things they do are a little to perverted.

Some. But then, it is nothing compared to what you can find via google with the right keywords. Hint: Most of what you find comes from Asia.......



Its unrealistic for Japanese School girls with Double D's to duel weild giant warhammers. I've seen that stuff your talking about in Oblivion mods... The point I was trying to make.

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Jennifer Hale is fantasc.

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Tirigon wrote...

Avalla'ch wrote...
Also, I can't really fathom the entire "ass-showed-into-your-face" argument.
First off, it's not exactly visible under all the equipment


That is like going to the beach and saying breasts are not visible under all those bras.

It's not there if you won't devote your entire attention to it.
Or are you saying the characters and stuff in the background rendered on Unreal engine 3 are invisible?

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 26 mars 2012 - 09:11 .


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BULLETWASTER wrote...

 I notice that a lot of male players seem to play as a female Commander Shepard. My friend told me that he prefers femdhep because Jennifer Hale is a better voice actor than Mark Meer (not sure if that's his name). But from what I've heard I wouldn't say her voice acting is particularly good. Even her role as Naomi in MGS4 I found lacking. I find males like to play a female character in other games too and I've never understood the motivation. If I have a choice I always choose a male character because, being a male, I feel I can relate to the character more or see myself in their role. So why do guys play as female characters?


Your friend is correct. Hale's VA blows Meer out of the water.

There's no comparison in ME1 and ME2. He gets a lot better in ME3, so that they're both very, very good, but in ME1? No contest, lol.

I played MaleShep for the first two games until I heard FemShep on some youtube vids, and after going back and playing through with her after listening to those vids... now I find it hard to play as MaleShep. Just seems wrong. 

It's a video game. I don't have to put myself in the character's shoes in order to relate- if you have to do that, you're gonna miss out on some great games- Beyond Good and Evil comes to mind. 

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Because of different dialog options. Which you will only get if you change gender's in the game.

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For a Sexy smooth BAMF turian called Garrus....If you're guy and you don't want him to callibrate you...you are beyond redemption.

Modifié par mrpoultry, 26 mars 2012 - 10:24 .