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[Tirigon]

Carfax wrote...


Haven't you been reading this thread?  I haven't said the butt arguement is an excuse.  It's been used as an "excuse" however by a large number of the guys that play FemShep primarily.  Such a silly reason could never be the real explanation, because it doesn't even make sense, hence why it's an "excuse," and a childish one at that.

 

Actually it is not an excuse, it makes sense.
It is obvious that great effort went into modelling FemShep's backside.

[Lincoln MuaDib]

Carfax wrote...

Anyway, so you're saying these FemShep players in reality wish they were women and playing FemShep gives them the ability to experience being a woman without having to cross dress, or become transgendered or transexual..
Makes sense......a lot more than the butt "excuse" to be sure 

Um, if I can quote myself . . .

Lincoln MuaDib wrote...

I choose FemShep because, TBH, I enjoy playing as the alternate gender.

I was born male straight, and still am. But if I could flip gender every now and then at will, to see the other side, hells YES I would do that.

Until they make those robobodies from Surrogates (http://en.wikipedia....rrogates_(film)) this is the closest I get.

I also play BoyShep after FemShep, just to see what I missed.

But I REALLY don't think I'm representative of male gamers.

:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O

Modifié par Lincoln MuaDib, 27 mars 2012 - 11:14 .

[Pathero]

Gonna roll up with femshep to sort Garrus out with a non-Quarian girl.

Thinking about it, I'm going Femshep to roleplay Garrus? Does that even make sense?

[BurnOutBrighter]

Just to mix it up. Mainly because there so few good female player character protagonists in gaming.

For the same reason, if I ever play through the ME series again (though I doubt I will after the ending debacle), I'm making my male Shepard black.

[Aurica]

I play both males and females. I like Jennifer Hale's VA but I really enjoyed Mark Meer VA in ME3.
You can almost feel the despair & frustration in his voice throughout the game.

[CamouflageUK]

As a man... I am in awe of my femininity..

[chuckwells62]

I play as both versions of Shepard basically for variety of playthrough, but find that either way I tend to romance female squaddies. I suppose if a deep meaning must be attributed to a male opting to play as FemShep, anybody is welcome to proffer their hypothesis. Maybe its a genre geeks inner porn demons?:innocent:

Modifié par chuckwells62, 27 mars 2012 - 12:55 .

[TheKillerAngel]

Female Shepard is literally one half of the game. You miss out on that experience if you stick to only one sex.

[Giskler]

Jennifer Hale is the biggest reason, you cant even compare her to Mark "Wooden Plank" Meer. Just listen to the VA in the ending of ME3 and how much more emotion Hale is putting into her lines.

I also like strong female protagonists and frankly, femshep for me is a much more believable Shepard than Sheploo.

[vernrev]

If immersion is supposed to be an important characteristic of person's experience while playing, then, for me, male Shepard is a natural choice.

[Kondorr]

I believe RPG's are role playing games... so for once you can choose to slip into the role of a Male Shep or FemShep... It really is of no importance if the gamer is male or female...

I find movies or TV-Shows with female leads as compelling as movies and TV-Shows with male leads... IF the genre or story is to my linking...

Also... I liked Nathan Drake AND Lara Croft...

I do not need to have my avatar or protagonist by the same gender as I am...

[nonpromqueen]

Boobs.

Jennifer Hale.

Boobs.

[CRISIS1717]

They are gender confused.

[78stonewobble]

Offcourse If I ever get around to playing a truely evil psychotic shepard I would HAVE to pick femshep obviously...

[Team Value]

Because we want to.

[onchristieroad]

I love a strong woman! I think a lot of guys play her to make a woman they could fall in love with...not in a weird way. It's like 'Build Your Own Awesome Woman'.

[ValendianKnight]

I love the "immersion" or "relatable" argument. The only thing any of you can relate to male Shepard is that he has balls. That's it. Don't see how it's hard to relate to a woman unless you think you're genitals are you crowning charactaristic(sad if it is).

[Lynata]

In my case, it's probably a mixture of several factors.

a) Oversaturation of the white male action hero cliché. It was cool when Conan and Rambo did it 20, 30 years ago, but these days I feel it's just getting old. After having seen so many movies, series and games, a lot of male player characters just come across like ... how did another player describe it? Ah, yes, "Bald Space Marine #56". It's bland and it's always the same. Simply replacing this with a female character makes it appear considerably more novel and fresh simply because it goes against persistent standards.

Whilst this is naturally a perception influenced by culture-induced bias, everyone would expect a male Shepard to go and punch someone in a face. When instead a girl does the same it has a much stronger effect on the audience as the character breaks with the stereotype. At least this is how I feel about it.

I've started with male characters when I began my roleplaying "career" a little more over ten years ago. I've basically "grown out" of playing men, though my fascination with strong female characters has since begun to extend into movies as well.

 IC/OOC Barrier Maintenance. Unlike some, I really do not want to play "myself in space" or "me as a hero". I want to immerse myself into a fictional character, free of my own moral values and prejudice and instead shaped according to the setting said character is "living" in . Slipping into the body of a female role may help to sever the player character from my own personality, much like playing an alien or a robot has the same effect.

Obviously I wouldn't attempt to do so in a LARP (I'm a firm believer in "play what you look like", meaning no fat elves or weedy orcs and so on), but when a computer game gives me this opportunity, why not use it?

c) Jennifer Hale's voice. The community seems somewhat split about which voice actor does a better job, but personally I prefer Hale. She manages to hit just the right way to talk, just the right amount of emotion - which is all the more impressive when you know what drastically different roles she voiced before. It's as if her voice oozes awesome and determination; a truly cinematic experience.


Also, reading some of the hate that FemShep gets, I almost feel embarassed by sharing the same planet with certain guys. Throwing myself in with the FemShep fans even more than I'd do otherwise could thus also be some sort of subconscious protest against gender discrimination. Having served in a military unit that was almost 50% female, I feel rather strongly about this issue.

Modifié par Lynata, 27 mars 2012 - 06:18 .

[Stokie Stallion]

Some games i make a guy like me, others if i got stare at an arse for 100+ hours (skyrim for example) i like a round tight arse of a female

[Rick Lewis]

Why do men play as FemShep? Probably the same reason men like to play games like Tombraider. Kinda nice to see a good looking woman on the screen viciously destroying everything in her path. Sadly my brother is a major homophobe and said I was "cross dressing" playing as a female character. I dismissed this notion.

[BlacJAC74]

Because they're nerds, it's what nerds do.

I also don't buy into the 'arse' comments. You just need to look at some of the effort people put in modding their female toons, in almost every rpg that has a gender option, to see it's nothing whatsoever to do with the arse. It's all about getting their cheap thrills to an extent.

We're all males together, guys, so there's no need to try and tell us something that we all know it isn't.

I picture comic book guy when these threads pop up.

Modifié par BlacJAC74, 27 mars 2012 - 06:25 .

[Xarathox]

Nepp wrote...

Kronner wrote...

Nepp wrote...

If im gunna play a character for hours, I'd rather stare at ****** and ass than a guy's ass.

Why would you stare at his/her ass? You are missing a lot if you do that 

Well, in casual clothes, the animation is horrible of you walking. I wonder if BW is ever going to get animations to look more real. And you are constantly looking at Shep's back side. Might as well be a more shapely one.

They should ask CD PROJECT RED on how to do motion capture animation, they are superior to BW's.

Now, I could be completely wrong but...judging from personal observation, BW uses hand drawn animations over motion capture. Which explains the choppy and completely retarded movements.

MoCap is quicker, but expensive as hell. Hand drawn animations are time consuming, but cheap as a $2 ****.

Modifié par Xarathox, 27 mars 2012 - 06:27 .

[admcmei]

ValendianKnight wrote...

I love the "immersion" or "relatable" argument. The only thing any of you can relate to male Shepard is that he has balls. That's it. Don't see how it's hard to relate to a woman unless you think you're genitals are you crowning charactaristic(sad if it is).

Well said. I will totally steal that line from you when talking to friends about this, sorry!
Also, I think a lot of "nerds" like me are maybe not the most adrenaline-fueled manly men, so yeah, we found ourselves very often identifying with women as much as men and we're just used to it, we have no problem acknowledging our lesbian side. Also, we prefer strong women to action men, since the latter we know would totally have beaten us up as teenagers.

(that said, I actually play both to have the whole experience, but I do have a huge preference for Jennifer Hale)

Modifié par admcmei, 27 mars 2012 - 06:34 .

[BlacJAC74]

Stokie Stallion wrote...

Some games i make a guy like me, others if i got stare at an arse for 100+ hours (skyrim for example) i like a round tight arse of a female

Do you play skyrim in 3rd person ?  Horrid game to play using 3rd person for 100+ hours.  In fact, it's obvious it was an after thought.

The only time i go into 3rd person view is when i'm looking at my bad ass armour. 

Modifié par BlacJAC74, 27 mars 2012 - 06:33 .

[Carfax]

admcmei wrote...

Well said. I will totally steal that line from you when talking to friends about this, sorry!
Also, I think a lot of "nerds" like me are maybe not the most adrenaline-fueled manly men, so yeah, we found ourselves very often identifying with women as much as men and we're just used to it, we have no problem acknowledging our lesbian side. Also, we prefer strong women to action men, since the latter we know would totally have beaten us up as teenagers.

(that said, I actually play both to have the whole experience, but I do have a huge preference for Jennifer Hale)

Thanks for proving one of my earlier points back on page 12, when I said:

"Some males identify with a female character more than a male one, and always play female when given the opportunity. These kind of males (not sure I would even call them men) tend to both fear and reject masculinity, and thus feel more comfortable playing as a woman."

 
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It's hard to deny that discomfort with masculinity DOESN'T have a role to play in answering why some guys prefer to play as females.  Just because you're a guy, doesn't mean that you're always going to relate to, or identify with strong masculine characters.  In truth, some men may find such characters (or people) damn near terrifying.

Most men readily identify with those kind of characters however, which is why they are so popular in the media.