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I Predict Another Backlash (But We'll See Next Month, Won't We?)


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trifecta739

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Based on that brief response I can reasonably assume at least two things that will be in any ending "DLC":
- there will be an epilogue
- tiny explanatory segments (anywhere between 10-45 seconds each) will be woven into the ending as it is

Here's why both shouldn't be done:

- Epilogue: It's a bad idea because there's nothing left in the current ending that warrants an epilogue. My squad is stranded on some far off planet with the busted Normandy. They don't have enough people to start a diverse society and the odds of some of them (Tali/Garrus) surviving with the food available are slim. I'd say send some rescue team to get them but the mass relays are all destroyed, which leaves the fleet stuck around Earth. Yes, they can still travel without the mass relays but by the time they reached the team, they'd all either be dead or inbred beyond all intelligence. Without those mass relays every civilization is without a huge portion of what's left of their species. It might as well be genocide on a universal scale, even if the mass relays didn't nuke the major planets.

(TL;DR - An epilogue is worthless without a sound, solid ending.)

- Explanatory Segments: Filling in the plot holes with explanation is a good idea, but it is not enough to make a difference with the public dissent of the endings. Adding in minor cutscenes that don't change the ending will not salvage it or even redeem it slightly. Just realize this before doing it. 


All in all BioWare needs to rethink the whole "artistic integrity" argument. I understand what it is like when something is criticized that you were genuinely proud of it; it hurts. But "artistic integrity" is just a phrase; a common belief that an artist should not compromise their work for the sake of anyone else. Call me what you like, but I find it selfish. I find it selfish for refusing to let up and give some ground to the tens of thousands of fans, if not many more, that love and support Mass Effect. If I'm wrong in my predictions well then slap me hard and kick me out. We'll find out in April. Just don't forget about your fans BioWare. Never forget about them.

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They can't explain something that can't be explained. **** is going to down in April and it isn't going to be pretty for any of us.

It's going to be bad.

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I can almost guarantee another backlash. Seeing what the people on the internet are capable, combined with several opinions on how the ending should or shouldn't change, toes will be stepped on, and we'll be back to square one on how Bioware "doesn't listen to it's fans".

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It won't be long before Bioware is wondering why their DLC sales are tanking so badly.

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Even if I personally don't like the ending, if I can see they put effort in, and it doesn't have 101 plotholes, I'll thank BioWare. I have never considered they'd make an ending for ME, I thought they'd make an ending for their series.

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Erixxxx wrote...

I can almost guarantee another backlash. Seeing what the people on the internet are capable, combined with several opinions on how the ending should or shouldn't change, toes will be stepped on, and we'll be back to square one on how Bioware "doesn't listen to it's fans".


I really hope they get the message. Fool me once shame on me................

Needless to say they better have some real magic of their own.

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funny seeing people have stated closure is what they wanted

also op the bsn will rage about anything honestly because its the only thing they ever do sadly

im fine with the endings as is and if bioware wants to tie up lose ends hey great more story for me

and if they dont again fine i have an imagination and it wouldnt change how i love the game and franchise

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Indeed OP we will.

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All for the possibility of Shepard and his LI.

Fix the plotholes.

Give a quality epilogue.

I will be happy.

Sadly, I very much doubt I'll get any of that.

Bioware has dug itself a mighty big hole, and i don't see it recovering.

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so the Normandy is still lost forever in Jurassic Park with no hope to ever see Tali,Garrus,Javik,James, etc again? >_<

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Yes, there will be more backlash, after giving BioWare a second chance.

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They can add all they want. As long as the ridiculous scene with the stupid kid stays in the game I deem it a pile of crap.

(I'm talking about the last 10min. here, not the entire game so don't get any petty ideas)

Modifié par Fix1o0, 23 mars 2012 - 10:55 .


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Tazzmission wrote...

funny seeing people have stated closure is what they wanted

also op the bsn will rage about anything honestly because its the only thing they ever do sadly

im fine with the endings as is and if bioware wants to tie up lose ends hey great more story for me

and if they dont again fine i have an imagination and it wouldnt change how i love the game and franchise


Getting text isn't closure.

Receving a text message saying people you cared about died wouldn't closure you in real life would it?

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 23 mars 2012 - 10:54 .


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PR speak. We'll all just have to wait to see what they're actually doing. Until then its all...speculation.

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Tazzmission wrote...

funny seeing people have stated closure is what they wanted

also op the bsn will rage about anything honestly because its the only thing they ever do sadly

im fine with the endings as is and if bioware wants to tie up lose ends hey great more story for me

and if they dont again fine i have an imagination and it wouldnt change how i love the game and franchise


Sir, Logic doesn't belong on the internet.  Real life 
that way.  --------> 

Modifié par Hexi-decimal, 23 mars 2012 - 10:53 .


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Tazzmission wrote...

funny seeing people have stated closure is what they wanted

also op the bsn will rage about anything honestly because its the only thing they ever do sadly

im fine with the endings as is and if bioware wants to tie up lose ends hey great more story for me

and if they dont again fine i have an imagination and it wouldnt change how i love the game and franchise



I stated and a lot of people have stated.

"We want multiple endings that reflect the decisions our shepard's made throughout the 3 games"


Hell Bioware even say that was what was going to happen, I bought Mass effect 3 expecting that to happen and it didn't happen.

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Tazzmission wrote...

funny seeing people have stated closure is what they wanted


"Closure" is like one out of 10 items on the list.

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Damage is already done. Some kind of focus group would have probably helped them. Captain hindsight away!

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ericjdev

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I predict that something will set a large group of people off sometime in the next 24 hours, it doesn't seem to take much lately.

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ArkkAngel007

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A lot of people want different things regarding the endings. I find it fairly appalling of the community that BioWare is going in the right direction for the majority of complaints, yet people won't concede that fact.

It's getting to the point that the community is acting like the self-entitled, selfish brats that the media has been making us out to be.

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Meh, its their ending. I guess this is the compromise we have to take. I'm disappointed but it doesn't seem like they understand why we don't like the ending.

Modifié par Spectre-00N7, 23 mars 2012 - 11:08 .


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KainrycKarr wrote...

All for the possibility of Shepard and his LI.

Fix the plotholes.

Give a quality epilogue.

I will be happy.

Sadly, I very much doubt I'll get any of that.

Bioware has dug itself a mighty big hole, and i don't see it recovering.


I'm pretty agree with you...

They will try to make money on us, but be sure that I will wait from review before buying anything (and not review of IGN or the others 74...)

JPR out!

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If I were them, I would get gaming media to stop saying that they are changing the ending, if that is not what they are doing. A lot of people still get their news from there and by having the press build expectations when that is not what is happening is a recipe for disaster.

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Every time they "Address our concerns" i think they are missing points that we are looking for in the ending of the game.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

They can't explain something that can't be explained. **** is going to down in April and it isn't going to be pretty for any of us.

It's going to be bad.


...and useless. BioWare will just dismiss us as unreasonable whiners then... and this time for good.