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[Jamie9]

Grasich wrote...
Agreed. This is not going to end well if it really is just "clarification".

Also agreed, the majority of the civil people will leave and the angrier people will get banned. That won't leave many people.

[Unit-Alpha]

Madecologist wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Yeah, this is going to make a lot of people say "screw Bioware" in the most vocal way possible and take the BSN ban. This is far, far worse from a fan's eyes than DA2. Far worse.

Worst, I suspect most will just go quietly. No final post of fustration, nothing. You will have the 'blaze of glory' posters but I suspect most of the dissatisfied will go with merely disdain and not make a final post as it were. If you think about the net result... you can see why this will be very bad in the long run.

You can bet your bottom dollar I'm going out in a blaze of glory. Just for the hell of it.

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 23 mars 2012 - 11:42 .

[judge515]

I am not touching the multiplayer until they release the DLC. If it does not substantially alter the ending, I will not be touching the game, or anything else Bioware does, ever again.

[Jamie9]

I actually think if they screw this up, there'll be a thread/group where people just /sign to show they're leaving. It will be the saddest thread ever.

[Azrael08151819]

The end of the fanbase.

[SavageLycan]

The moment they started putting the emphasis on "closure" rather than, you know, the things we were ACTUALLY asking them to change, I knew there was only more trouble brewing. I would love to be proven wrong, but I have a feeling that the content they'll reveal will only hurt the hardcore fans even more.

[pavi132]

Yeah I'll just watch someone play through the DLC on youtube or something.

[eddieoctane]

I swear to God, if the starchild lives through the patch/dlc/retcon, I'll be done with BioWare, all the key ME staff, and EA. His very existence is an affront to the player.

Unfortunately, I don't foresee him going away.

[lastpatriot]

Just my two cents:

As much as I love BioWare's games and the Mass Effect series, I feel that right now the company has been given one chance from the devoted fans to go back and fulfill the promises they have made when it comes to this game. Right now it's almost like we're holding our breath in a brief pause and is only done so because we trust they do the right thing.

If this new DLC comes out and is not nearly 100% of what was told to us it would be than I think that will be the end of the devoted relationship many of us have had. For me personally, I will no longer support the company or buy their products.

Mass Effect is my favorite game series ever made and if they are going to to let it end like this then I see no reason to put my trust in them again.

I hope I am wrong.

[The Spamming Troll]

if this DLC isnt primo MASS EFFECT, then biowares screwed.

the future of ME3s DLC(maybe bioware) almost solely depends on how satisfying this ending thing will be.

[EllOneillE]

Adding more scenes to the ending and pretending we were too stupid to understand it the first way around would be an insult. Epilogues are a step in the right direction, but it wouldn't fixt the problems with the ending.

Even if there is no public backlash the consequences of the first disappointment will remain. Bad user scores, players openly advising others to not play the game for the story, a lot of players that won't purchase DLC as they feel it is pointless to interact with the story, and generally a lot of lost business.

[Madecologist]

Jamie9 wrote...

I actually think if they screw this up, there'll be a thread/group where people just /sign to show they're leaving. It will be the saddest thread ever.

The Wall of Shame. The OP will ask people to leave their final words civily but firmly that they are done with the brand label. As users put their names up as a final word of dissatisfaction and dissappointment.

It reminds me of the military tradition where a disgraced officer would have to walk a line where those formerly under his command would hang their head in shame as he passes them by, usually towards or away from the war tribunal.

[rickf7666]

I for one will not be purchasing this until I've read about what it changes and if it ultimately doesn't change anything in any significant way then why bother?

[Qutayba]

trifecta739 wrote...

Based on that brief response I can reasonably assume at least two things that will be in any ending "DLC":
- there will be an epilogue
- tiny explanatory segments (anywhere between 10-45 seconds each) will be woven into the ending as it is

We don't even know yet.  These comments even work with Indoc Theory or some other "more has always been planned" scenario.  They will tell us when they tell us.  They heard our complaints and have thousands of pages of commentary to work with.  I hope they have enough sense to know what kinds of things will be taken as condescending tripe by their fans.  If not, yes, there will be a backlash.  But I don't see them making the same mistake twice.

[lastpatriot]

rickf7666 wrote...

I for one will not be purchasing this until I've read about what it changes and if it ultimately doesn't change anything in any significant way then why bother?

You shouldn't have to purchase anything!  BioWare needs to make this FREE.  ME:3 is incomplete and lacks many key points promised to us.  If they are willing to fix it in a major substance patch than there is the strong possiblity that all can be forgiven and we can move on.  However, this is only if they don't charge for it.

As it stands, any "fix" DLC that comes out with a $$ attached it will only confirm the statements made by others in that the terrible ending was done on intent to sell more DLC products.

[j78]

I don’t see this working out at all .They can’t seem to get we want our choices to matter a paragon should not end up like a renegade or the other way around . This is what we’ve have come to expect but that space ghost child still 2 weeks later I can’t even begin to ….

Modifié par j78, 23 mars 2012 - 11:46 .

[Denethar]

"It's not the despair. I can handle the despair. It's the hope ... "

One more chance, then I'm gone.

[Belhawk]

if they are just clarifying the ending, then i agree that a lot of people will be unhappy, me included.
also, how can they continue creating games in the ME universe?
excluding Reapers winning, u have synergy, which sounds like we become like Saren. No more war.
or we kill the repears, relays exploded (remember Arrival DLC), destroying almost all of civilization. And colonies with enough tech, people, and resources to maintain the current level of civilization are rare or don't exsist. Other colonies will fail with no interstellar commerce.

[rvgifford]

Taboo-XX wrote...
I really hope they get the message. Fool me once shame on me................

Needless to say they better have some real magic of their own.

And it better not be space magic. 

[ArenCordial]

Qutayba wrote...

We don't even know yet.  These comments even work with Indoc Theory or some other "more has always been planned" scenario.  They will tell us when they tell us.  They heard our complaints and have thousands of pages of commentary to work with.  I hope they have enough sense to know what kinds of things will be taken as condescending tripe by their fans.  If not, yes, there will be a backlash.  But I don't see them making the same mistake twice.

We can only hope.  Still even if this was "always the plan" and they go with something like Indoc Theory, its beyond sad its come to this.  No DLC should ever have to finish a game. 

However I do respect Bethesda for making the changes to Fallout 3 when pointed out to them.  For Bioware I hope they see it as an example.  Its not just the incoherency of the ending that is the problem, its the substance.

Modifié par ArenCordial, 23 mars 2012 - 11:53 .

[rvgifford]

WarBaby2 wrote...
...and useless. BioWare will just dismiss us as unreasonable whiners then... and this time for good.

Bioware is beginning to seem the unreasonable ones. What we've all been asking for is what we were promised. Make our choices matter. None of this ABC or RBG ending crap. If all they do is give us a little info on what happens to the crew on jungle planet 99 and attempt similar "closure" in a few other areas of th euniverse, I'll be done with Bioware . . . and this time for good.

It'll mean they HEAR the angry fans but are unable or unwilling to actually LISTEN. That is the very definition of unreasonable and not a company worth supporting. I hope I am so wrong, here. For now, holding the line and hoping they are listening and being vague while they work out the details, but stuff like this doesn't make it seem to be the case.

[Conduit0]

BioWare can do NO RIGHT at this point. There will be a large backlash no matter what they do. If they don't completely rewrite the ending, the people who wanted it rewritten will b****, if they rewrite the ending, those who didn't want to the ending rewritten will b****, and those who did want the ending rewritten will STILL b**** because they didn't get the EXACT ending they had invisioned in their head.

[77boy84]

There will be another backlash, but not like the backlash over the ending.

With the ending, people were mad, but they stuck around, and pleaded with bioware to change the ending. You get the whole retake mass effect thing, and everyone doing the hold the line thing, because they know bioware can do better, and they want them to.

With whatever dlc they release? It wont be the same. There will be a backlash, and then people will be done with bioware. It wont kill them, but it's going to really hurt them in a way they wont be able to recover from for a while.

[AllergevKev]

No matter what, there is going to be backlash.
Support Indoctrination theory? If it's not that: backlash
And you don't? Backlash if it is
If you liked the ending: Backlash.

Bioware is in an winnable situation