He dies like a champ.
Can I Save Thane?
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Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:07
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ha ha. That's funny. Btw, is there a thread where I can go to to discuss this?
mnomaha gave ya good ones. there is also a Save Thane petition, I don't know how far into the progress it is but ya should check it out. social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/325/index/10277318
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Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:07
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Naltair wrote...
He dies like a champ.
IMHO....
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Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:14
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Naltair wrote...
He dies like a champ.
if i got a quarter everytime i heard that, i would have enough $ to rewrite and redo the whole Thane storyline in ME3.
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Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:15
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Seriously right? That's like saying Tali's picture was creative, innovative and full of awesome.
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Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:16
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Good to have you on our side, Raikoh. As you can see, we could use more like you.
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Posté 24 mars 2012 - 01:34
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Naltair wrote...
He dies like a champ.
Oh please, keep dreaming. If he died like a champ then I'm Santa Claus.
mnomaha wrote...
Seriously right? That's like saying Tali's picture was creative, innovative and full of awesome.
Exactly my point. Thanks!
disc0nnect7 wrote...
Good to have you on our side, Raikoh. As you can see, we could use more like you.
Thanks! Yeah, I can see that. lol.
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Raikoh110 wrote...
ha ha. That's funny. Btw, is there a thread where I can go to to discuss this?
mnomaha
gave ya good ones. there is also a Save Thane petition, I don't know
how far into the progress it is but ya should check it out. social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/325/index/10277318
I will. Thank you!
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Posté 24 mars 2012 - 09:32
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So, I romanced Thane, but Cpt. Kirrahe did not survive my ME1 - now, I heard that if Kirrahe survived, Thane does not get killed? Is that right now or wrong?
(Basically it doesn't matter anyway, the stupid thing is that my Shep who romanced him did not save Kirrahe and my main-Shep who romanced Garrus did save Kirrahe.. I was so disappointed that this happened to me
And no, I do not think that the way he died through Kai Leng was epic at all.)
(Basically it doesn't matter anyway, the stupid thing is that my Shep who romanced him did not save Kirrahe and my main-Shep who romanced Garrus did save Kirrahe.. I was so disappointed that this happened to me
And no, I do not think that the way he died through Kai Leng was epic at all.)
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Posté 24 mars 2012 - 09:35
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Thane its condemned, not its possible save, not for Leng and not for the disease.
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Posté 24 mars 2012 - 09:57
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Lucky Thirteen wrote...
Thane's only purpose in life was to die as tragically as possible to emotionally engage us.
LT is being sarcastic. She's an avid Thane supporter
RShara wrote...
Thane bites it every time, no matter what. No option, no choice, no save, and no different dialogue.
Woop!
This is true no matter what--he just dies off screen if Kirrahe or other STG takes his place.
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weltraumhamster89 wrote...
So, I romanced Thane, but Cpt. Kirrahe did not survive my ME1 - now, I heard that if Kirrahe survived, Thane does not get killed? Is that right now or wrong?
(Basically it doesn't matter anyway, the stupid thing is that my Shep who romanced him did not save Kirrahe and my main-Shep who romanced Garrus did save Kirrahe.. I was so disappointed that this happened to me
Thane still dies. I tried going back at one point to have Kirrahe take the hit... it doesn't change anything.
I didn't think it was epic either. There is so many different ways Thane could have gone out with style....
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Posté 24 mars 2012 - 03:24
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How is Thane dying bad writing? He tells you hes terminally ill from the first moment you met him. If they had thrown in a miracle last minute cure to save him in ME3, just because the character was popular, I wouldve called that bad writing.. and cheap. and cliched.
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Posté 24 mars 2012 - 03:26
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I'm glad he died by a sword than wasting away in that hospital. True warriors death.
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Posté 24 mars 2012 - 03:28
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Did you guys miss the part where he was terminally ill? And the fact that he lives in the hospital now teaching physical therapy? He had to die in ME3, Thane Krios couldn't have gone out with a weeze and a cough. Also Thane's death gave an incentive to hate Kai Leng and to resent Cerberus on a personal level. I don't know about you but after I killed Kai Leng and Shep said, "That was for Thane, you son of a ****", I jumped up in the air and screamed like if my team just won the super bowl.
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How is Thane dying bad writing? He tells you hes terminally ill from the first moment you met him. If they had thrown in a miracle last minute cure to save him in ME3, just because the character was popular, I wouldve called that bad writing.. and cheap. and cliched.
actually under the romance version, thane no longer considers himself define by his illness and there is a mention of him possiblity being cured/prolong. it was bad writing on the romance end of it. if you didn't romance, it makes perfect sense the way he went out.
besides, what raikoh's point was that not all unromance players wanted to see him die. he was clearly one of them.
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Did you guys miss the part where he was terminally ill? And the fact that he lives in the hospital now teaching physical therapy? He had to die in ME3, Thane Krios couldn't have gone out with a weeze and a cough. Also Thane's death gave an incentive to hate Kai Leng and to resent Cerberus on a personal level. I don't know about you but after I killed Kai Leng and Shep said, "That was for Thane, you son of a ****", I jumped up in the air and screamed like if my team just won the super bowl.
did you miss the part where i have written over and over again that my husband was terminally ill. that he didn't have to die and the cure/prolonging Thane was the most realistic part of the game since everyday in real life people are working on those very things.
of course you did. because if you took the time out like you should to understand why people are complaining, you would have left (i would hope) a better opinion than that.
i don't get why someone needs to die for others to get an emotional kick out of it. seriously.
hell if shepard can come back from the dead, prolonging thane isn't that far fetch.
not everyone believed Thane was define by his illness. in the romance version, bioware themselves made it clear that Thane was not define by it. there should have been an option. not everyone felt the same way and it's been made clear by now that there is two different opinions on the subject. i don't get why this needs to be repeated over and over again.
this goes for everyone else who came to bash and think it's okay to shove one opinion down an entire group's throat.
Ps. Thane did die in the hospital from a weeze and a cough. he could have survived if he wasn't sick to start off with. And yeah, he ain't at the hospital teaching physical therapy... i don't even know where ya got that from.
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Posté 24 mars 2012 - 04:03
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Yes but this is not real life, it's a fictional narrative. The writers told you within the first hour of getting Thane that he was going to die. ME3 is a dark story where you're reminded of the costs of the war, and in order for that vibe to work, you gotta kill characters. Trust me Thane was my favorite character of ME2 and my online handle for nearly everything is "Drell Assassin", so I don't take his death lightly, but it had to happen. The feeling of hope when they were talking about his transfusion and then that hope getting smacked down boosted the emotional part of the narrative. It sucks, I know, but it was necessary.Squeegee83 wrote...
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Did you guys miss the part where he was terminally ill? And the fact that he lives in the hospital now teaching physical therapy? He had to die in ME3, Thane Krios couldn't have gone out with a weeze and a cough. Also Thane's death gave an incentive to hate Kai Leng and to resent Cerberus on a personal level. I don't know about you but after I killed Kai Leng and Shep said, "That was for Thane, you son of a ****", I jumped up in the air and screamed like if my team just won the super bowl.
did you miss the part where i have written over and over again that my husband was terminally ill. that he didn't have to die and the cure/prolonging Thane was the most realistic part of the game since everyday in real life people are working on those very things.
of course you did. because if you took the time out like you should to understand why people are complaining, you would have left (i would hope) a better opinion than that.
i don't get why someone needs to die for others to get an emotional kick out of it. seriously.
hell if shepard can come back from the dead, prolonging thane isn't that far fetch.
not everyone believed Thane was define by his illness. in the romance version, bioware themselves made it clear that Thane was not define by it. there should have been an option. not everyone felt the same way and it's been made clear by now that there is two different opinions on the subject. i don't get why this needs to be repeated over and over again.
this goes for everyone else who came to bash and think it's okay to shove one opinion down an entire group's throat.
Ps. Thane did die in the hospital from a weeze and a cough. he could have survived if he wasn't sick to start off with. And yeah, he ain't at the hospital teaching physical therapy... i don't even know where ya got that from.
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Posté 24 mars 2012 - 04:44
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Beans253 wrote...
Yes but this is not real life, it's a fictional narrative. The writers told you within the first hour of getting Thane that he was going to die. ME3 is a dark story where you're reminded of the costs of the war, and in order for that vibe to work, you gotta kill characters. Trust me Thane was my favorite character of ME2 and my online handle for nearly everything is "Drell Assassin", so I don't take his death lightly, but it had to happen. The feeling of hope when they were talking about his transfusion and then that hope getting smacked down boosted the emotional part of the narrative. It sucks, I know, but it was necessary.
And in this fictional narrative, within the first hour of getting Thane on the ship, he mentioned that the Hanar were working on a cure. This is also a fictional narrative where cancer had been cured, where Shepard had been brought back to life, and where Mordin singlehandedly reversed the Genophage, despite claiming in ME2 it would take years to make a cure with Maelon's data.
ME3 had enough "darkness" with entire planets going boom, hundreds of thousands people gettiing indoctrinated, and world leaders getting catty and destructive in their desire to protect their own planets and people. Oh, and the Reapers coming to end all life? If all that doesn't lend the game proper gravitas, the death of one single character isn't going to do it.
It was NOT necessary. Aside from the mention of the Hanar cure, in Lair of the Shadow broker, Thane's dossier mentioned that he was a candidate for a transplant. In addition to that, there was a CDN mention of Medigel for the lungs ,an article that would ONLY be of interest to Thane fans.. Talking about a transfusion, then getting smacked down wasn't emotional storytelling, it was lazy and nonsensical. Why would a medical doctor suggest more blood to a patient's friend, then go, "jk, it won't help, he's gonna die in a few, better go say byez!"
... Oh, and the Kai-Leng fight scene sucked.
And then no one except Kai-Leng ever mentioned Thane's name again. Not even if you romanced him. Not even Shepard. And then everyone started hitting on Shepard.
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Beans253 wrote...
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Beans253 wrote...
Did you guys miss the part where he was terminally ill? And the fact that he lives in the hospital now teaching physical therapy? He had to die in ME3, Thane Krios couldn't have gone out with a weeze and a cough. Also Thane's death gave an incentive to hate Kai Leng and to resent Cerberus on a personal level. I don't know about you but after I killed Kai Leng and Shep said, "That was for Thane, you son of a ****", I jumped up in the air and screamed like if my team just won the super bowl.
did you miss the part where i have written over and over again that my husband was terminally ill. that he didn't have to die and the cure/prolonging Thane was the most realistic part of the game since everyday in real life people are working on those very things.
of course you did. because if you took the time out like you should to understand why people are complaining, you would have left (i would hope) a better opinion than that.
i don't get why someone needs to die for others to get an emotional kick out of it. seriously.
hell if shepard can come back from the dead, prolonging thane isn't that far fetch.
not everyone believed Thane was define by his illness. in the romance version, bioware themselves made it clear that Thane was not define by it. there should have been an option. not everyone felt the same way and it's been made clear by now that there is two different opinions on the subject. i don't get why this needs to be repeated over and over again.
this goes for everyone else who came to bash and think it's okay to shove one opinion down an entire group's throat.
Ps. Thane did die in the hospital from a weeze and a cough. he could have survived if he wasn't sick to start off with. And yeah, he ain't at the hospital teaching physical therapy... i don't even know where ya got that from.
Yes but this is not real life, it's a fictional narrative. The writers told you within the first hour of getting Thane that he was going to die. ME3 is a dark story where you're reminded of the costs of the war, and in order for that vibe to work, you gotta kill characters. Trust me Thane was my favorite character of ME2 and my online handle for nearly everything is "Drell Assassin", so I don't take his death lightly, but it had to happen. The feeling of hope when they were talking about his transfusion and then that hope getting smacked down boosted the emotional part of the narrative. It sucks, I know, but it was necessary.
Do not belittle me so by stating that a game isn’t real life. I know that it isn’t and because I realize that, I do not feel his death was necessary. It’s Mass Effect after all.
Did it not occur to you that there were people out there who might have connected with Thane because they have personal experience? I spoken to many people who have either experienced lost/illness that is greatly disturbed by how the writing team handle Thane’s death. Especially in the romance version of it. So connecting to a character because of a rl experience is not uncommon.Telling me I’m being ridiculous for connecting to a character because it’s fictional is kinda pushing it.
Besides the hints in the game about a possible cure/prolonging him, Bioware themselves ran a promotion for a “Cure for Thane” among a few other things. Don’t you think it’s just a bit cruel to draw people in like that, make them hope, then turn around and not give an option at least?
Besides, I think Bioware did a fantastic job of killing off characters from ME2. Note the sarcasm. Especially when it turns out you can save most of them, besides Thane. The whole storyline behind Thane was a cop-out. It was great for those who didn’t romance him because all you heard about was his illness. But if you romanced him… there is a much different story that gets revealed. A story that they completely slaughtered. If Thane needed to die in the romance version, there was so many better ways to go about it. What we got was a joke and a slap to the face.
I have read many books and played many games. Writers can start off writing one thing that can lead into other. I don’t see why “Thane NEEDS to die” should be the only outcome. Last time I checked, Mass Effect was about choices. In ME1, they talk about the Genophage. It’s was clear and simple, the Krogan was screwed. But however in ME2, the writers turned around and said, “hey...there can be a way to cure it” and in ME3… you can cure it.
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By my real life comment I didn't mean to belittle you. This is coming from a guy who cried three times during ME3. What I was trying to say was the fact that when you're creating a story you got to stick to certain truths and goals, whereas in RL obviously you don't.
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Beans253 wrote...
By my real life comment I didn't mean to belittle you. This is coming from a guy who cried three times during ME3. What I was trying to say was the fact that when you're creating a story you got to stick to certain truths and goals, whereas in RL obviously you don't.
They chucked the story in fifteen minutes. I wouldn't call that a goal to stick by.
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Posté 24 mars 2012 - 06:16
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. I don't mind Thane's death. I mind the lack of different dialogue for a romanced path, I mind the lack of achievement/lockout of other romances for continuing it, and I REALLY mind the lack of aftermath to his death, friend or romance.
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Hadeedak wrote...
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I don't mind Thane's death. I mind the lack of different dialogue for a romanced path, I mind the lack of achievement/lockout of other romances for continuing it, and I REALLY mind the lack of aftermath to his death, friend or romance.
Thats the voice of reason. IMO.
