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[WedgeFan]

I really liked the way his death was handled.

Thane was in the middle tier of my favorite characters, so I didn't have the emotional investment most in this thread had.

Just a few points.

- Thane's life was prolonged. He said that he was given X number of months to live.... 9 months ago. Even if the Hanar were working on a cure, there's no guarantee they would have found it in time. We knew from the first moment we met him this would be the likely outcome.

- The fight he had with KL was amazing. The stress he put his body through.....wow. Imagine trying to run a marathon through the Himalyas. That's probably what that was like for him, and to still nearly get the better of an enhanced super assassin.....wow.

- The bedside scene for me was probably my favorite part of the game. It was so beautifully done, I cried during that part. I didn't cry during any of the other characters deaths, and I liked them a lot more Thane. Especially Mordin. Having Kolyat there, reading the prayer, then Shepard closing his eyes.....getting teary eyed typing this.

I can see the point of how the romance arc was a severe disappoint for those who went down that road. It's tough to watch those characters that we loved, die. I, in no way, think his death was meaningless or poorly handled. But that's just my opinion.

[mikelope]

Aside from the lack of conversations, I thought it was handled really well (at least for those who didn't romance him).

[Bad Cupcake]

My husband is doing a new playthrough, he bought me ME3 for the Xbox... but all of his saved games were on the PC... so he's doing a non-import character, where, apparently Thane is already dead and he's coming up to the Kai Leng fight... do you guys know who fights KL in Thane's place?

(By the way, I was APPALLED that Thane was dead in the non-import game)

[mikelope]

Raikoh110 wrote...

Squeegee83 wrote...

an option would please both parties. nobody gets hurt and everyone turns out happy. ugh. i just got a headache at this point... anyone have some aspirin on them? lol

i can't disagree with anything you said earlier. i wanted a choice too. i like to have thane back and i don't get why everyone feels he should have died.

Nothing against Thane but isn't this problematic? Wouldn't Mordin fans want Mordin to survive too? How about both Ashley and Kaidan? Or Legion? or Charr? Sincere question: would the game be better if you have the options to save them too?

[utaker1988]

mikelope wrote...



Nothing against Thane but isn't this problematic? Wouldn't Mordin fans want Mordin to survive too? How about both Ashley and Kaidan? Or Legion? or Charr? Sincere question: would the game be better if you have the options to save them too?

Poor Legion, he gets it no matter what, I do like Legion (more than any of the Quarians actually).  As for Mordin, he can live.  Wrex just has to be dead and that troll brother of his Wreav has to be alive. So Wreav needs to be alive, you would have had to destroy Maelon's data in 2 (this will cause Eve to die), and the cure sabotaged.  Thus, Mordin will live, Wreav will not know any better and you'll end up with Salarian and Krogan war assets.

[Julia_xo]

WedgeFan wrote...

I really liked the way his death was handled.

Thane was in the middle tier of my favorite characters, so I didn't have the emotional investment most in this thread had.

Just a few points.

- Thane's life was prolonged. He said that he was given X number of months to live.... 9 months ago. Even if the Hanar were working on a cure, there's no guarantee they would have found it in time. We knew from the first
moment we met him this would be the likely outcome.

You admit you don't have much of an emotional investment to him, well try to imagine what if feels like for those who do. It sucks.

I don't even take that 3 months to live 9 months ago line seriously because it was written once the  devs had already decided he would die. Before ME3 was released the devs had given themselves enough leeway so that they could feasibly have written him surviving (and fans had hope as a result of that). Remember Thane's medical report in LotSB? It says he was eligible for a lung transplant. It's not a cure but it could have prolonged his life for a few more years, at least. Instead, the lung transplant was never mentioned again.

WedgeFan wrote...
- The fight he had with KL was amazing. The stress he put his body through.....wow. Imagine trying to run a marathon through the Himalyas. That's probably what that was like for him, and to still nearly get the better of an enhanced super assassin.....wow.

It was kind of dumb,actually. Shepard and two squadmates just stand there while Thane fights off the cereal killer. At one point, Thane knocks Kai Leng into a sprawl clear across the room. The perfect opportunity for Shep and the squad to step in and help incapacitate him, right? No. Instead they just continue to stand there and watch as Thane runs to impale himself on Kai Leng's sword for dramatic effect. <_<

WedgeFan wrote...
- The bedside scene for me was probably my favorite part of the game. It was so beautifully done, I cried during that part. I didn't cry during any of the other characters deaths, and I liked them a lot more Thane. Especially Mordin. Having Kolyat there, reading the prayer, then Shepard closing his eyes.....getting teary eyed typing this.

The scene is almost word for word the same if you romanced him. I hated the scene because Shepard acted like the man she loves dying wasn't a very big deal. She didn't shed a tear for him. She couldn't even tell him she loved him. The scene felt cold and empty as a result. There was no closure at all. Too much left unsaid.

WedgeFan wrote...
I can see the point of how the romance arc was a severe disappoint for those who went down that road. It's tough to watch those characters that we loved, die. I, in no way, think his death was meaningless or poorly handled. But that's just my opinion.

You say you can see our point but still say you think his death was well-handled? If he was romanced, it wasn't. That's why a lot of people are upset.

Modifié par Julia_xo, 24 mars 2012 - 08:00 .

[mikelope]

Squeegee83 wrote...

Should  some of the old crew gone out with bang? Sure, that is what makes a good story. Even if that person was Thane. But there shouldn’t have been false hope in saving him. If I romanced Thane in ME2 and then came to believe that Thane would die no matter what. I would have replayed my ME2 file over again because knowing myself, I couldn’t watch him die as a love interest. I hope this makes any sense to ya.

I can understand your perspective. I have a femshep save with a Thane romance (admittedly I did it to force a confrontation between Thane and Kaidan that will never happen, but Thane is my favorite ME2 LI) but even with the hope of a cure I still accepted the possibility of him dying. I would have settled for long goodbyes, a love scene, well-written conversations. I would have accepted it with Kaidan too (though definitely not in the context of the current ending).

Modifié par mikelope, 24 mars 2012 - 07:55 .

[mikelope]

double post

Modifié par mikelope, 24 mars 2012 - 07:54 .

[mikelope]

triple post. sorry i was editing and kept hitting the quote button.

Modifié par mikelope, 24 mars 2012 - 07:55 .

[Hadeedak]

Heh. I sure wouldn't mind if Thane had a chance to live -- more options are ALWAYS a massive plus. If he has to die, though, I really wish there was more (any) aftermath.

[mnomaha]

Squeegee83 wrote...

Raikoh110 wrote...

hahaha yeah, the liara's romance was a waste of time. look at me and you getting screwed over now. i would like to find out what was the thought progress behind these romances.

omgz!!!! we gotz to pullz all resources from the ME2 romanzess and get 'em multiplayer up and runnningss!! coz that would make us mad coolz?

hahaha

oh how i hate the multiplayer feature. i can't even be a damn drell, i have to unlock it. first they kill thane and then i have to work to be a drell. i hate this game seriously. the only reason i hold on to it is for 2 reasons.

1) They fix the Thane romance

or

2) In a year from now I can sell my collectors for around $120. By that time I can erase all bad memories from bioware forever. lmao.

Well, Liara's romance was great, if you're a Liara fan, which I am most certainly not.

And don't even get me started on the stupid, waste of resources bull**** they call MP. I don't care that someone else developed it, cuz guess what...it cost *MONEY* to do so. Money better spend on development of the existing game which has always been...Yep a *single player* game. What? You couldn't wait?

I refuse to play MP  and if I need war assets, well, there's this little thing called a *******.

And I want to hold Thane's hand, not the air 2 inches above it. Didn't this go through QA?

And sorry, but I doubt it's going to sell for $120 (I paid $130 NZD).

[RShara]

dead <> good writing
Romanced Thane's character completely reverses his stance from ME2. Character reversal for no reason is not good writing.

Thane's death was AWESOME for a non-romanced Shepard (leaving aside the question why sword > gun). It was completely wrong for a romanced one.

See, there definitely shouldn't be a magical cure for Thane. That would be cliche and almost as offensive as what has happened in game.
I think that if you romanced him, and got the conversation where he no longer wants to die, then when you import your game, you should have the option to go on a quest to save him. You can save Miranda depending on your decisions, why can't you save Thane?
If Thane were strong enough he should have been able to drive off Kai Leng without being seriously hurt (accepting the fact that Kai Leng has impenetrable plot armor).

Thane was never "destined" to die. The writers in ME2 said they weren't sure where they were going to take the character.

In the leaked script, there were several options where Thane takes a bullet during the Coup, to stop Udina. In one of the options, he pulls off "A slick move" and stops Udina, and just looks "out of breath."

Mordin can magically cure the genophage in a few weeks, but no one can cure drell in years? From a bacterial infection? And we're not talking just 1 person, but an entire race.

From LotSB, you see Thane is a candidate for a transplant but declined. It is not specified whether this is BEFORE or after romancing Shepard.

It's only been 6 months or so since the end of ME2 (Arrival). Thane says that he as told he had 3 months to live 9 months ago. So..............he was 3 months PAST his expected life expectancy when he agreed to join up (and kicked ass)???

The doctor you talk to when you go to see Thane says that they had a problem with lack of drell blood for transfusion. Shepard offers to find some, and boom, Kolyat is there. Granted, he can't give ALL of his blood to Thane, but he should be able to donate a good bit. Certainly enough to buy enough time for Shepard to find more (fetch mission to Kahje?). I mean, you go fetching like, flags, and stuff. Wouldn't be any more ridiculous than that.

Thane's also the only ME2 squadmate that doesn't have at least some sort of sidemission, even a Running-Around-The-Citadel type mission.

What would make sense is that, if you romanced him in ME2, you have the OPTION to talk him in to a transplant. If he agrees, (and maybe if your Reputation is high enough) then he is strong enough to recover from the fight with Kai Leng. Strength of will, will to live makes a HUGE difference in survival odds. This isn't even a cure, but it's something that would extend him through ME 3, and leave the rest to......SPECULATION.

[PsyrenY]

Naltair wrote...

He dies like a champ.

Don't tell them that, they'll try to drown you in their entitled tears.