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My view on BioWare, the demand for a new ending and the Retake movement.


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I edited my original post after a long conversation with AznableChar in private. Please read the last half of the OP to read more about it.

Anyway, this is where I stand now:


Please read this article: http://www.pcgamer.c...-writers-think/ 


The article kind of changed my mind on the whole attitude of BSN. Is is truly within our rights to DEMAND a better ending? Is it truly up to us to decide how Mass Effect should end?

I don't believe so. I think it's BioWare who has ot decide what is best for them and what they want. Do they want to change the ending? Or do they want to keep their "artistic integrity"? 

However, I will add, that when BioWare decides to release DLC that addresses the ending, I won't buy it. I won't pay a single penny for it. Only if BioWare releases FREE ending DLC, then I'll download and play it.

But when I have to choose between paying for ending DLC, or letting the endings stay the same, I'll choose the latter. I rather keep the current endings than PAYING for a better ending.


However, I do want to ask everyone on BSN, to please judge every game on it's own merits. If DragonAge 3 or Mass Effect 4 or whatever turns out to be great, I'm going to buy it. I'll judge those games on their own merits. If they are good, I'll buy them. If they suck, I won't buy them. I hope the rest of BSN will do the same and not simply refuse to buy BioWare products out of petty grudges over the ME3 endings.


I want to clarify, that I still absolutely HATE the ending of Mass Effect 3, but  I think BioWare should make up their own mind and then THEY should decide what to do with the endings, NOT US.

So if BioWare wishes to change the endings for us, then I fully support them.
If BioWare doesn't want to change the endings but instead they choose to expand the current endings, I fully support them.
If BioWare decides to do nothing, I'll be hugely dissapoined, but I'll still fully support their future games if they turn out to be good.


I do want to add that I still respect the Retake movement and in some way I still support it, but I think now is the time for us to calm down and wait what BioWare has in store for us.


Also, please read THIS:

After the sh*tstorm in this thread broke loose, AznableChar contacted me through a PM and told me he wanted ot talk with me about this in private and in a civil manner. After a long conversation, we came to this concluson:

1. Instead of continuing on in a flame war and engaging in conversation that was going nowhere we, Luc0s and AznableChar instead sat down and had a decent human to human conversation.

2. We, Luc0s and AznableChar  both listened to each other's points we both argued passionately , and we both let each other have full course to be heard unlike the fast paced nature of the thread.

3. Through respectful and fruitful discourse we realized that we both prefer BioWare to release a FREE and decent DLC that addresses the ending and that satisfied what we had come to expect from BioWare's past writing.

4. That we have both come to realize that part of the underlying frustration we all were having was due to the quick and swift negativity that can occur because of the intense pressures on the community.
 
5. We, AznableChar and Luc0s, both reaffirm our ardent and unyielding support the wish for BioWare to release FREE and decent DLC that addresses the ending, but we also need to realize that all the negativity going on on BSN we only provoke more negativity, resulting in people eventually just giving up and/or leaving the Retake movement, such as was the case with me, Luc0s and unquestionably several others.

6. Understanding all of these elements we have come to realize that the Retake movement is not necessarily a bad thing. The movement can and WILL yield positive results for both us, the fans and BioWare, the developers, as long as we stay positive, calm and civil.

7. We want to state that through civil conversation, Luc0s and AznableChar came to an understanding. We both realize that ultimately we all want the same thing. With this we  prove and reaffirm that it IS INDEED POSSIBLE for calm dialogue and mutual respect can change minds and hearts and ultimately gain a better understanding, both among each other and hopefully also between BioWare and us, the fans.

Modifié par Luc0s, 24 mars 2012 - 06:20 .


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Stanley Woo

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Closed for all the usual reasons.

End of line.