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[Billabong2011]

Just as they have the right to take their story in any direction they choose, I have the right to bring it to their attention that, in my opinion, they compromised the entirety of the story with that decision.

[Unit-Alpha]

Grasich wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...


She totally tricked my Shepard that was with Ash though. The "gift" was her getting some of my Shapard DNA. I remember what she said in ME 1.

Oh, my conniving Liara...

She's a devious one she is.

"What? No!"

How could anyone say no to that?

[Billabong2011]

Grasich wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...


She totally tricked my Shepard that was with Ash though. The "gift" was her getting some of my Shapard DNA. I remember what she said in ME 1.

Oh, my conniving Liara...

She's a devious one she is.

"What? No!"

This is perfect because I LITERALLY just played Mass Effect and saw this scene like 5 minutes ago 

[garf]

Regardless I'm done campaigning too. they can keep their better endings. they are not getting any of my money. It's already spent.

[Unit-Alpha]

garf wrote...

Regardless I'm done campaigning too. they can keep their better endings. they are not getting any of my money. It's already spent.

Don't give up, we still have a chance to stop them.

[Jackal7713]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Grasich wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Dethead123 wrote...

malra wrote...

this may get me drawn and quartered (well hopefully not in this thread) but I personally don't think we should ask for a new ending simply because its "sad" or "dark" so while I may find things in common with retake I don't have everything in common. which is okay. for me the more important thing was for them to know that there is a significant number of people unhappy and this in itself may prompt them to rethink what they have done.

I'd like to have a choice to keep Shepard alive pretty much because 16 different endings is a lot to fill (unless you're just gonna do different colored explosions and having a different teamate come out of the normandy for each one <_<) but I can understand the whole killing off the hero mentality. Besides my shepard was renegade so he never wore protection. You can be sure there's a minishep in the galaxy

Both of my Shepards are paragons and they didn't ware one either.

Just go blue, then it isn't even an issue.

She totally tricked my Shepard that was with Ash though. The "gift" was her getting some of my Shapard DNA. I remember what she said in ME 1.

Oh, my conniving Liara...

I feel a Ash v.s. Liara cat fight happening.

Ash: So you did what to him before the battle?

Liara: I just gave him a gift.

Ash: So thats what you call it??

Shepard: Can't we all just get along?

Ash & Liara: NO!

[Dethead123]

firebreather19 wrote...

I think in this situation, just as many people who swear they'll never buy another Bioware game again would be offset by the folks who find Bioware taking a stand ballsy and worth supporting.

I think most people would just see them as jackasses who don't give a crap about their consumers. Them making new endings doesn't affect anyone on the other side of the ending argument.

Modifié par Dethead123, 24 mars 2012 - 04:06 .

[Grasich]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

garf wrote...

Regardless I'm done campaigning too. they can keep their better endings. they are not getting any of my money. It's already spent.

Don't give up, we still have a chance to stop them.

Do not fail Kirrahe!

"Hold the line!"

[Aurica]

Grasich wrote...


It would certainly be a step in the right direct. But totally honestly, I require at least 1 happy ending to be able to replay the series more than just once.

Likewise... I completely lost the motivation to import my 5 other shepards from ME2...

[Makatak]

Grasich wrote...

Dreogan wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Art is never finished, only abandoned.
~Leonardo da Vinci

Da Vinci also changed his art several times. This includes the Mona Lisa and The Adoration of the Magi.

So people are saying they can't change the ending because of "Artist integrity"? Interesting

Artistic integrity is a crutch for the artist without integrity.

That needs a Keanu meme.

That is a fantastic quote.

Hang on, can we bring this back? Because I think someone won this thread pages ago.

[Dethead123]

Grasich wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

garf wrote...

Regardless I'm done campaigning too. they can keep their better endings. they are not getting any of my money. It's already spent.

Don't give up, we still have a chance to stop them.

Do not fail Kirrahe!

"Hold the line!"

You know how depressing it is for us PS3 users not to be able to relieve that amazing moment D:

[Unit-Alpha]

Jackal7713 wrote...

I feel a Ash v.s. Liara cat fight happening.

Ash: So you did what to him before the battle?

Liara: I just gave him a gift.

Ash: So thats what you call it??

Shepard: Can't we all just get along?

Ash & Liara: NO!

After KOTOR, I was hoping the catfight would go a little more like this.

[Grasich]

Makatak wrote...

Grasich wrote...

Dreogan wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Art is never finished, only abandoned.
~Leonardo da Vinci

Da Vinci also changed his art several times. This includes the Mona Lisa and The Adoration of the Magi.

So people are saying they can't change the ending because of "Artist integrity"? Interesting

Artistic integrity is a crutch for the artist without integrity.

That needs a Keanu meme.

That is a fantastic quote.

Hang on, can we bring this back? Because I think someone won this thread pages ago.

Ya we're just kind of screwing around now. 

[Jackal7713]

Makatak wrote...

Grasich wrote...

Dreogan wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Art is never finished, only abandoned.
~Leonardo da Vinci

Da Vinci also changed his art several times. This includes the Mona Lisa and The Adoration of the Magi.

So people are saying they can't change the ending because of "Artist integrity"? Interesting

Artistic integrity is a crutch for the artist without integrity.

That needs a Keanu meme.

That is a fantastic quote.

Hang on, can we bring this back? Because I think someone won this thread pages ago.

Do I get the Cookie

[Dethead123]

Warlord Okeer: The greatest insult to a thread's topic is to be ignored!

[firebreather19]

Rawr rawr rawr bioware i'm so mad you can't have my 60 dollars take that i bet your pocket full of 6000000000000 dollars is going to feel it


Come on, if people actually do manage to commit to not buying Bioware games, it's not going to matter because EA owns it and Madden, NCAA, Battlefield, etc. will never go away. And that money funnels in so Bioware can make their masterpiece games and EA gets popularity and association with fantastic games like Dead Space and ME. You are not that important that the entirety of game development will change because one person wants to hurt themselves by not purchasing good video games.

[Unit-Alpha]

Jackal7713 wrote...

Makatak wrote...

Grasich wrote...

Dreogan wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Art is never finished, only abandoned.
~Leonardo da Vinci

Da Vinci also changed his art several times. This includes the Mona Lisa and The Adoration of the Magi.

So people are saying they can't change the ending because of "Artist integrity"? Interesting

Artistic integrity is a crutch for the artist without integrity.

That needs a Keanu meme.

That is a fantastic quote.

Hang on, can we bring this back? Because I think someone won this thread pages ago.

Do I get the Cookie

Red, blue, or green frosting on the cookie?

[HBC Dresden]

Quote from Chuck Jordan in the article in the OP: "Essentially, BioWare created the problem for themselves by, to be blunt, promising more than they or any other developer could deliver. They’ve sold the Mass Effect series on the premise that the player can completely customize his character and his character’s story—entire planets with complex storylines that some players will never even see! (And also sex with aliens). But even the largest team of writers and content creators won’t be able to deliver an indefinite number of conclusions that all have the same level of impact, satisfying enough to conclude a multi-year, multi-game epic series. People have been spending years trying to come up with a way to create systems that generate compelling narratives, and no one’s cracked the problem yet."

I came up with 9+ endings here. It ranges from the happy ending to very bad ending, all epic in their own way, primarily because how it takes Shepard's different actions from all three games into account. If I can do it, BioWare definitely should be able to with their team of highly experienced writers, but I think they might have had different creative/narrative or design goals in mind concerning the ending.

Modifié par HBC Dresden, 24 mars 2012 - 04:10 .

[garf]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

garf wrote...

Regardless I'm done campaigning too. they can keep their better endings. they are not getting any of my money. It's already spent.

Don't give up, we still have a chance to stop them.

I have made my peace with the endings by donating my 'fun money' for the next 8-12 months to child's play. Even if I wanted to I couldn't buy anything new for at least six months and probably would have to skip a movie or a dinner date to do it. I'm starting to get stoked for Prometheus.

I've gone though all the stages of greif. I have mourned the Bioware that I loved since Knights of the Old Republic. Maybe this new Bioware will earn my trust someday in the future. Someday... but not today.

[Dreogan]

Popping back in to comment on homogenized story: Bioware's already known for this. They broke their formula when they tried to do something "different" for ME3's ending.

This, obviously, backfired.

[Unit-Alpha]

firebreather19 wrote...

Rawr rawr rawr bioware i'm so mad you can't have my 60 dollars take that i bet your pocket full of 6000000000000 dollars is going to feel it


Come on, if people actually do manage to commit to not buying Bioware games, it's not going to matter because EA owns it and Madden, NCAA, Battlefield, etc. will never go away. And that money funnels in so Bioware can make their masterpiece games and EA gets popularity and association with fantastic games like Dead Space and ME. You are not that important that the entirety of game development will change because one person wants to hurt themselves by not purchasing good video games.

Ah, I love people like you. So ripe for the mocking.

[MetalCargo999]

Aurica wrote...

Grasich wrote...


It would certainly be a step in the right direct. But totally honestly, I require at least 1 happy ending to be able to replay the series more than just once.

Likewise... I completely lost the motivation to import my 5 other shepards from ME2...

I know the feeling...  even ME2's death scene with Shepard had more closure and sense of accomplishment than ME 3 does...

[Jackal7713]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Makatak wrote...

Grasich wrote...

Dreogan wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Art is never finished, only abandoned.
~Leonardo da Vinci

Da Vinci also changed his art several times. This includes the Mona Lisa and The Adoration of the Magi.

So people are saying they can't change the ending because of "Artist integrity"? Interesting

Artistic integrity is a crutch for the artist without integrity.

That needs a Keanu meme.

That is a fantastic quote.

Hang on, can we bring this back? Because I think someone won this thread pages ago.

Do I get the Cookie

Red, blue, or green frosting on the cookie?

I want red cause I get to take a breath after!

[Dethead123]

firebreather19 wrote...

Rawr rawr rawr bioware i'm so mad you can't have my 60 dollars take that i bet your pocket full of 6000000000000 dollars is going to feel it


Come on, if people actually do manage to commit to not buying Bioware games, it's not going to matter because EA owns it and Madden, NCAA, Battlefield, etc. will never go away. And that money funnels in so Bioware can make their masterpiece games and EA gets popularity and association with fantastic games like Dead Space and ME. You are not that important that the entirety of game development will change because one person wants to hurt themselves by not purchasing good video games.

You think a mother company will allow one of it's licenses to leech off of it? If people actually do boycott Bioware. EA will drop it. Or at the very least fire a bunch of people til it starts making money. That's just simple business.

Modifié par Dethead123, 24 mars 2012 - 04:12 .