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[Genshie]

RaggieRags wrote...

Starspiral wrote...

The folk working on Dragon Age 3 must be getting worried about now... most of the buzz surrounding ME3 was created by fans. DA:3 is going to face a lot of really critical examination as it develops, thanks to the ME3 fiasco.

Bioware papering over the cracks, rather than fixing them, risks a very negative impact on DA:3.

They have a lot to prove after ME3 DA2.

Fix'd for ya. In a long run ME3 was a great title and showed that they can raise the bar for future titles such as for DA3. I am actually glad with what they did in improvements for ME3 since it will only mean that DA peeps have to step up their game.

[Genshie]

cynicalandbored wrote...

Genshie wrote...

And well considering that Dragon Age was never meant to be a trilogy

Mass Effect was supposed to be one and apparently it doesn't really matter since they didn't know how to end it all along.

Casey said several times over that it being a single title was never the case and there was plans from the start to make it the way they did. DA peeps did say that it was never meant to be a trilogy. Where did you get that?

Edit: Also like to mention that the ending was worked on by two guys (Casey and one of the lead writers) mainly and was never given/shown to the rest of team to be approved of or not.

[Lilarcor01]

Bioware doesn't want to change the ending for the sake of saving face because they have to show a united opinion saying: "we didn't mess up the endings!"
But if this time around the whole team is working on additional content to bring explanation and closure and not just two people writing whaterver they think is 'cool' then perhaps there is still hope that the ending can be satisfactory.

[cynicalandbored]

Genshie wrote...

cynicalandbored wrote...

Genshie wrote...

And well considering that Dragon Age was never meant to be a trilogy

Mass Effect was supposed to be one and apparently it doesn't really matter since they didn't know how to end it all along.

Casey said several times over that it being a single title was never the case and there was plans from the start to make it the way they did. DA peeps did say that it was never meant to be a trilogy. Where did you get that?

That's my point. I think we misunderstood each other. I meant to say that ME was planned to be a trilogy from the beginning and look how "well" it ended. So maybe it's better off for the story not to be considered a trilogy from the beginning.

[Genshie]

cynicalandbored wrote...

Genshie wrote...

cynicalandbored wrote...

Genshie wrote...

And well considering that Dragon Age was never meant to be a trilogy

Mass Effect was supposed to be one and apparently it doesn't really matter since they didn't know how to end it all along.

Casey said several times over that it being a single title was never the case and there was plans from the start to make it the way they did. DA peeps did say that it was never meant to be a trilogy. Where did you get that?

That's my point. I think we misunderstood each other. I meant to say that ME was planned to be a trilogy from the beginning and look how "well" it ended. So maybe it's better off for the story not to be considered a trilogy from the beginning.

I find that pretty much every bit up to last 5-10 minutes was great. In terms of a trilogy it did great. Most media in anything doesn't even do well with a two part sequel. 

[cynicalandbored]

Genshie wrote...

cynicalandbored wrote...

Genshie wrote...

cynicalandbored wrote...

Genshie wrote...

And well considering that Dragon Age was never meant to be a trilogy

Mass Effect was supposed to be one and apparently it doesn't really matter since they didn't know how to end it all along.

Casey said several times over that it being a single title was never the case and there was plans from the start to make it the way they did. DA peeps did say that it was never meant to be a trilogy. Where did you get that?

That's my point. I think we misunderstood each other. I meant to say that ME was planned to be a trilogy from the beginning and look how "well" it ended. So maybe it's better off for the story not to be considered a trilogy from the beginning.

I find that pretty much every bit up to last 5-10 minutes was great. In terms of a trilogy it did great. Most media in anything doesn't even do well with a two part sequel. 

I just can't wrap my head around the last 5-10 minutes. I would think that they had everything planned out months prior to the actual making of ME3. (Not the lots of speculation for everyone piece of paper).

[FearBound23]

BE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU GOT BIONERDS AND BIO DRONES

[Genshie]

FearBound23 wrote...

BE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU GOT BIONERDS AND BIO DRONES

Says the user who also purchased and registered ME3.

[Drake-Shepard]

I_Jedi wrote...

If it's the indoc theory, Bioware is forgiven.

This.

Unless they charge me for it....

[Drake-Shepard]

cynicalandbored 
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I just can't wrap my head around the last 5-10 minutes. I would think that they had everything planned out months prior to the actual making of ME3. (Not the lots of speculation for everyone piece of paper).






Exactly. I paid for a thought out vision, not a make it up as you go along LOST.

A vague idea of how what why the reapers work and how they can be stopped (that makes sense) was the least I expected


edit, awaitng dlc....make or break time

Modifié par Drake-Shepard, 24 mars 2012 - 09:32 .

[Elhanan]

Seems reasonable to me, though this also makes me glad I avoid social/ electronic devices as much as Agent Gibbs!

[Christianswe]

Hmmm.. I really don´t like they way they put that statement. It could kinda put the problem back again. What i don´t understand, why not add endings??? Why just have one?? In mass effect??
Look at Dragon age origins, those are excellent endings right there. That differ greatly, and are all good in their own way. With player choice at the center. So please bioware. Fix this the right way. Please. 

Modifié par Christianswe, 24 mars 2012 - 10:23 .

[Random Geth]

The PLC wrote...

So now this isn't good enough for some people after all?! Wasn't this exactly what many of you were asking for? Some of you people are mental!

Er, not really.  What people were asking for was an ending that makes any sense at all and doesn't run counter to basically every theme the series has ever established.  This is just what I said it would be: Bioware trying to "clarify" this rubbish heap because they feel all us poor silly gamers don't "get" their wonderful masterpiece of an ending.  Maybe I'm just being too cynical, but I don't see anything saving this crapfest short of a total do-over or, at the very least, a segment that goes "okay, that happened...but then something that ISN'T a stupid load of BS happened" a la Broken Steel.

[Iwillbeback]

A fine wine that is drank over a long period of time until you reach the bottom and realize it ruined your memory of the fine bottle of wine.

[Salis777]

The PLC wrote...

So now this isn't good enough for some people after all?! Wasn't this exactly what many of you were asking for? Some of you people are mental!

Who's the bigger fool, the fool or the fool that follows him.

[SwitchN7]

Of course it's The Indoctrination theory with every little thing in the ending happening in Shepard's broken/falling apart mind symbolizing Hope and Never giving up or backing down followed closely by the real ending via DLC(EA's disgusting little fingers just like the Day 1 DLC) where Sheppard draws breath and so on...Prince of Persia did it disgustingly tasteless,Fallout 3 as well,why not Mass Effect? Hope it will be worth the price...Good luck and have a nice day.

Modifié par SwitchN7, 24 mars 2012 - 11:10 .

[Stealthy Cake]

Are they even going to try to fill in these space-magic plotholes and give closure?, that is simply not going to work BW.

We had a nice few years.... Goodbye, hope you someday break free from EA:

[mitch79original]

I just want some story about marauder shields

[Salis777]

mitch79original wrote...

I just want some story about marauder shields

Lingerie for Ashley too plz

[Michel1986]

evil-pineapples wrote...

 http://imgur.com/eMYVd

Goodbye, BioWare.

That's what i said to people when the director posted his message 2 days ago, people wouldn't believe me but there is the proof.

Bioware = EA and EA only cares about money, did you really expect anything else ? i didn't. By changing the endings they would have admitted they failed.




BTW by content they mean DLC, so far nothing has been changed (DLC = Money, so boycott that and they feel it).

Modifié par Michel1986, 24 mars 2012 - 11:33 .

[Prism]

I think a significant part of the players (mainly, indoctrination theory adepts) who a want a different ending don't necessarily want everything axed, just built upon. Seriously built upon. And I'm all for this. Dismissing the idea before it is presented is just childish.

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

If the OP is true, then unless the expanded endings end up being the indoctrination theory then it would be goodbye bioware.

Modifié par Kakita Tatsumaru, 24 mars 2012 - 11:44 .