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[BootyBamBoo]

Ah, some of us most of miss read this. People read it carefully till you get it. "Add more content" Which may mean add more endings to satisfy the player.

[kbct]

I think people are going to be let down when they realize the colors and god-child are still in the game. The news article headlines made it sound like more:
http://ps3.ign.com/a.../1221273p1.html

http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1048196

http://ca.news.yahoo...-193709619.html

[RocketManSR2]

Icinix wrote...

RocketManSR2 wrote...

I'll actually laugh if that's what BioWare was planning all along. The whole scene with the starchild took place in Shepard's mind and the "breathe" scene is him snapping out of it.

The issue with that of course is that we don't have any ending at all then.

Its either going to require a large content dump to have the 'actual' ending.

Or they leave it like that and leave lots of speculation but then the crux of the issue isn't resolved.

So true. It would mean the real ending was planned as DLC all along, which is a no-no even to me. I support a lot of the DLC, even day 1 if it's good, but to make the "real" ending of any game DLC? That's a dangerous place to go. 

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 24 mars 2012 - 12:16 .

[cmj428]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

I'll actually laugh if that's what BioWare was planning all along. The whole scene with the starchild took place in Shepard's mind and the "breathe" scene is him snapping out of it.

I really think and hope this is actually what's gonna happen.
For them to just start new content after the release and backlash, april is just too quick for anything substancial unless they where already working on it.

Plus picking up on the ground in London after the breath is not changing the ending.
It's saying gotcha to everyone.

[edwardhazelden]

Normally I would agree that this plot hole is way to deep to write out of, but this is Bioware damn it they only messed up ten minutes right at the end of the trilogy. If anyone can make sense of this I'm putting my faith in them.

[ZombifiedJake]

I just completed the game about 5 minutes ago. How could they possibly continue from that finale? Who would want to continue from it?

Might as well just erase the last 10 minutes and go with something else entirely.

[BanditGR]

Sadly, I predict that the only thing they are going to accomplish by attempting to provide "more closure" is indeed, outrage people even more. The endings need to be rewritten, not "explained". In all honesty, there isn't that much to explain and the important things that do need an explanation (aka plot holes), cannot be explained logically, anyway. Not without even minor modifications.

I just fail to understand why Bioware continues to be that...selfish. Even after acknowledging their mess (somewhat), they still refuse to go the extra mile and for what ? Protecting their work and their writers ? When you get such a huge backlash on a certain part of the game, while almost everyone would agree that the rest of it is wonderful, it is crystal clear where you failed.

[Chugster]

also, where the hell would you start any DLC....you get 2 saves after you complete the game, the restart of the last mission or the autosave for the mission before

[JunMadine]

I have finally begun to loose hope. I will begin trying to make my peace and goodbye to mass effect.

[Draconis6666]

BanditGR wrote...

Sadly, I predict that the only thing they are going to accomplish by attempting to provide "more closure" is indeed, outrage people even more. The endings need to be rewritten, not "explained". In all honesty, there isn't that much to explain and the important things that do need an explanation (aka plot holes), cannot be explained logically, anyway. Not without even minor modifications.

I just fail to understand why Bioware continues to be that...selfish. Even after acknowledging their mess (somewhat), they still refuse to go the extra mile and for what ? Protecting their work and their writers ? When you get such a huge backlash on a certain part of the game, while almost everyone would agree that the rest of it is wonderful, it is crystal clear where you failed.

Because the people responsible for the attrocity of an ending are likely the people in charge of deciding what gets done and what doesnt.

[kbct]

ZombifiedJake wrote...

I just completed the game about 5 minutes ago. How could they possibly continue from that finale? Who would want to continue from it?

Might as well just erase the last 10 minutes and go with something else entirely.

Agreed. I guarantee a ton of people will feel the same way. The tragic thing is the news sites are making it sound like there will be real changes. They will be surprised when the ending is basically the same but with more clarity.

Unfortunately, the window to return the game will be closed.

[Nazzren]

Hope it's Indoc theory as it makes the most sense.

[RocketManSR2]

TC, might I suggest that you change the topic to something like, 'From Twitter- Endings won't be changed'

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 24 mars 2012 - 12:21 .

[Mako Zalos]

One thing they could do is add a new decision, to oh I don't know walk away from the catalyst and order all the fleets to attack the reapers and depending on your military strength and EMS rating everyone lives and we get an epilogue stating the outcomes of our decisions in the future.

[don-mika]

no changing is good :happy:  and new content is always welcome  

[BiancoAngelo7]

You know, to everyone freaking out over this twitter post, keep in mind that the people that are authorized to use their twitter account are very very VERY careful about what they say and how.

I understand the gut reaction to take that as they're making a cut scene to explain the ending.

But all they said is "additional content to provide closure"

That is intentionally vague and general, it could be anything from a measly cut scene (it better not be) to something as complete and complex as the last hour or two of gameplay and corresponding cutscenes based on your ME1-3 choices to flesh out the indoctrination theory that a lot of people have caught on to.

Lets try and keep our minds open. There's always time for despair. Let's at least wait until there's no chance that Bioware will make it right, no? (as in after they release the April DLC)

[RocketManSR2]

BiancoAngelo7 wrote...

You know, to everyone freaking out over this twitter post, keep in mind that the people that are authorized to use their twitter account are very very VERY careful about what they say and how.

I understand the gut reaction to take that as they're making a cut scene to explain the ending.

But all they said is "additional content to provide closure"

That is intentionally vague and general, it could be anything from a measly cut scene (it better not be) to something as complete and complex as the last hour or two of gameplay and corresponding cutscenes based on your ME1-3 choices to flesh out the indoctrination theory that a lot of people have caught on to.

Lets try and keep our minds open. There's always time for despair. Let's at least wait until there's no chance that Bioware will make it right, no? (as in after they release the April DLC)

So very true. It could be a huge DLC with all sorts of goodies in it for all we know.

- I don't think the DLC will be released in April. It sounded more like we'll find out more about it then.

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 24 mars 2012 - 12:24 .

[Mako Zalos]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

BiancoAngelo7 wrote...

You know, to everyone freaking out over this twitter post, keep in mind that the people that are authorized to use their twitter account are very very VERY careful about what they say and how.

I understand the gut reaction to take that as they're making a cut scene to explain the ending.

But all they said is "additional content to provide closure"

That is intentionally vague and general, it could be anything from a measly cut scene (it better not be) to something as complete and complex as the last hour or two of gameplay and corresponding cutscenes based on your ME1-3 choices to flesh out the indoctrination theory that a lot of people have caught on to.

Lets try and keep our minds open. There's always time for despair. Let's at least wait until there's no chance that Bioware will make it right, no? (as in after they release the April DLC)

So very true. It could be a huge DLC with all sorts of goodies in it for all we know.

Let's hope so.

[xMellowhype]

I_Jedi wrote...

If it's the indoc theory, Bioware is forgiven.

If it's the indoc theory then it would make sense if it were part of the original game...

[Heliosas]

We will get epilogue dlc telling us how our companions miraculously survived and how they went on to live happy lives. If we are extra lucky we will get a few more lines of dialogue between us and the ridiculous starchild.

They won't change the ending. Even if Bioware came onto these boards and agreed with us that they had messed up the ending they still wouldn't change it. They feel they can't. They feel bound by their own 'art'. We will not get what we want. Period.

[Johanna]

Nazzren wrote...

Hope it's Indoc theory as it makes the most sense.

[Draconis6666]

kbct wrote...

ZombifiedJake wrote...

I just completed the game about 5 minutes ago. How could they possibly continue from that finale? Who would want to continue from it?

Might as well just erase the last 10 minutes and go with something else entirely.

Agreed. I guarantee a ton of people will feel the same way. The tragic thing is the news sites are making it sound like there will be real changes. They will be surprised when the ending is basically the same but with more clarity.

Unfortunately, the window to return the game will be closed.

There is no possible way to add clarity to this ending without creating even larger plot holes, the fact that Bioware thinks there is, is the exact reason we have this terrible ending to begin with. The person who wrote the ending and decided it was a good ending should not be writing anything at all let alone the ending to a series, its poorly done, amature, and has next to nothign to do with the rest of the 3 games throwing out all of the Major plots of those games in favor of new ones created in the last 10 minutes of the game. It attempts to use symbolism to convey some sort of message that is completely lost, and if people have to ask what a symbol symbolizes then it doesnt, the writing is just plain bad and no amount of clarification is going to fix it properly. They shot themselves in the foot with this ending pure and simple, they cannot clarify it proerly without further destroying the series. This is what happens when you change the plot of your series halfway through and allow people with only average writing skills to be your new lead writer.

Even beyond that simply clarifying the terrible ending that exists will not solve the issue, because it does NOTHING to change the fact that Bioware outright lied to its customers about what the endings would be like well AFTER the game had gone gold. Clarifying what exists will not change the fact that they lied about the endings. Bioware is draging itself down defending this terrible ending sadly and I would not be suprised if they are non-existant as a company in several years. They have lost touch with reality of what makes people want to play games, and have replaced it with poorly written plots that are not worthy of their earlier work in the name of making money which is almost always a sign of death or stagnation for developers. They may continue to make games in the future and linger around but its unlikely that their products will have anywhere near the impact they once did or anywhere near the number of fans. Bioware frankly is not a good enough developer to sell games based on anything but their story, they are terrible at creating games that are not full of bugs, bad animation, poor mechanics, etc. If people no longer trust that their games stories will be worth playing the game for then their games are not likely to sell well. 

Modifié par Draconis6666, 24 mars 2012 - 12:31 .

[Zaximus]

I'm hopeful of what they're going to announce in April even if the ending isn't changed.

[Shinobu]

I don't want the Starchild "explained" -- I want an alternative to his 3 solutions.

[kbct]

BiancoAngelo7 wrote...

Lets try and keep our minds open. There's always time for despair. Let's at least wait until there's no chance that Bioware will make it right, no? (as in after they release the April DLC)

They should "clarify" their remarks then. Because right now it sounds like the colors and god-child are still in the game.