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[WhiteKnyght]

Heavenly_King wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

evil-pineapples wrote...

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Goodbye, BioWare.

YES! There is artistic integrity left in Bioware.

Take that Line Holders!!!!!

What part of having an ending that doesnt shows the repercussions of your actions, while being "schizophrenic" is ART??

The biggest complaints about the ending was the lack of answers and sense of closure. They're adding that without changing the ending they wrote.

It's a perfect compromise in my book. And who knows what the answers we learn will be.

For all we know....

.... the Normandy could have crashed on a colonized world that's one or two systems away from Sol. Meaning if your LI survives the crash, he/she could return in another ship or shuttle and be reunited n with Shepard if he/she survived the destroy ending.

... the control ending could give Shepard the power to make a full synthetic body that functions completely like an organic body to host his/her mind(kinda like Robin Williams in Bicentennial Man). Allowing the commander a loophole from his/her sacrifice.(Reapers are millions of years more advanced, there's a lot they can do.)

Most of the consequences of the choices in the game, like curing the genopage and making peace between the Quarians and Geth wouldn't be apparent for awhile after the game ends. The ending choices weren't a problem. And for the record, there are several variants to the playout and results of the battle based on your actions and your EMS, so the whole "the endings are all the same," is bull****.

Modifié par The Grey Nayr, 24 mars 2012 - 02:12 .

[RocketManSR2]

Sadly, there are already those that are refusing to compromise on anything. The "hold the line" thing is all well and good, but I'm already seeing an all or nothing response from them. It's either their way or the highway.

[Nauks]

I_Jedi wrote...

If it's the indoc theory, Bioware is forgiven.

Agreed, how they handled to reveal it to us, plus the time spent waiting and unsure though, not so easy to forgive.

But ofc, the end of the series would be saved. no doubt.

[Rocharox]

no more cash for Bioware from me or any of my friends. Thats final

[expanding panic]

This

RayDequina wrote...

Said it before and will say it again: Indoc theory. No need to re-write the endings as such, because it makes the clusterwhat of those endings make complete sense, and we still get everything we want. WHOO!

[kbct]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

The biggest complaints about the ending was the lack of answers and sense of closure.

Where do they rank the complaints about the ending? How do we know that? And why aren't more people here happy about the news?

[devSin]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

Sadly, there are already those that are refusing to compromise on anything. The "hold the line" thing is all well and good, but I'm already seeing an all or nothing response from them. It's either their way or the highway.

To be fair, everybody is going to hold out for what they personally want and hope to see for as long as they're able to.

It's once BioWare comes back and actually details what exactly they plan to do where people are either going to have to accept compromise (or defeat, as some will view it) or decide to no longer support Mass Effect and/or BioWare.

[DeinonSlayer]

Their customer base is giving them one chance to fix this, and they're blowing it.

If they don't do this right, it's over. It's done. You've already taught me not to trust pre-orders, Bioware. Now you're teaching me not to trust you. You can keep your "art." I'll be keeping my money in the future.

[Link Ashland 614]

So, you were complaining because it didn't make sense or closure, but now that they're adding explanations and closure, you're complaining because it won't "change" anything?

Confused.

[DeinonSlayer]

Link Ashland 614 wrote...

So, you were complaining because it didn't make sense or closure, but now that they're adding explanations and closure, you're complaining because it won't "change" anything?

Confused.

Not so confusing. Most of us were asking for change from the beginning. This falls short.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 24 mars 2012 - 02:42 .

[deaditegonzo102]

Yeah, the stupidity of the ending is too deep to be fixed with just something tacked on. Some things WOULD HAVE to be retconned. Think about it, the ending is so bad the most popular theory is that THE WHOLE THING WAS A DREAM.

[Draconis6666]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

The biggest complaints about the ending was the lack of answers and sense of closure. They're adding that without changing the ending they wrote.

From what I've seen thats not the biggest complaint at all, the biggest complaint is that the entire ending is a completely brand new plot created and ended in the space of 10 minute that is almost totaly detached from the plot of the three games themselves. The ending doesnt even require the game to exist and it would still make just as much sense as it does now, (which is none really)  but it wouldnt detract from it either. The games have no impact on the ending at all, nothing you have done in any of the three games affects the end or even alludes to the ending other than TIM yelling aobut controlling the reapers everytime you talk to him, this compounded with plot elements that totaly invalidate previous plot elements such as the need for the plot of ME 1 to have happened at all, and add in hand waving space magic like the abiltiy to combine organic DNA with synthetics despite synthetics not having DNA and this being basicaly the ME version of "a wizard did it" are what I would call the biggest complaints with the ending.

Thats not even touching upon the things that need answers like where the normandy crashed, where it was going, why your squad is on it etc. Those are minor issues compared to the simple fact that the ending has nothing to do with the rest of the game and is poorly executed and written.

TL:DR version : the problem with the ending is it is badly written by someone tryign to be edgy, twisty, and symbolic who has no idea how to write something in that manner and it shows.

Modifié par Draconis6666, 24 mars 2012 - 02:48 .

[HermanGunther]

Well... I suppose it time to return my Collectors Edition and fore swear all Bioware products and only purchase used ones henceforth.

[Nicky 192]

Link Ashland 614 wrote...

So, you were complaining because it didn't make sense or closure, but now that they're adding explanations and closure, you're complaining because it won't "change" anything?

Confused.

An explanation as to why starchild made us pick colour ABC wont suffice.its not closure and i fail to see how that can be explained.

[Menethra]

As i see it whats the point in DLC?

Commander Shepard dies in just about every ending, why would i want to purchase any DLC when ultimately everything i would accomplish in it will be for nothing? Who knows what PAX will bring but as of now i wont be buying anymore bioware products, shame really.

[FixitBioware11]

Yep it's over for me, you wont be hearing from me again bioware don't worry.

hold the...

[Iakus]

Unless "closure" is a buzzword for "more and more varied endings" then good luck selling DLC or even Mass Effect 4.

[Draconis6666]

I've almost decide that this was all done on purpose by Bioware so that they have an excuse to stop even bothering to make RPGs and can go make mainstream action shooters with crappy game mechanics animations and graphics. Because honestly they have handled the entire situation so badly its like they are doing it on purpose.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

So, no option to tell the child ex machina to go to hell? Still a choice to choose colors?

Well, then I think it's a very painful farewell. Maybe there's a chance the content change me but I don't think it's gonna happen. For now, I shall do my best to make an ending that is mine and better than crappy choices Bioware gave me in hopes I can ever forget it.

[Nicky 192]

Draconis6666 wrote...

I've almost decide that this was all done on purpose by Bioware so that they have an excuse to stop even bothering to make RPGs and can go make mainstream action shooters with crappy game mechanics animations and graphics. Because honestly they have handled the entire situation so badly its like they are doing it on purpose.

I would'nt be surprised at all.

[DeinonSlayer]

Menethra wrote...

As i see it whats the point in DLC?

Commander Shepard dies in just about every ending, why would i want to purchase any DLC when ultimately everything i would accomplish in it will be for nothing? Who knows what PAX will bring but as of now i wont be buying anymore bioware products, shame really.

But... but it's art! For art!

I for one don't care to pay them, just to make the walk off the end of the plank slightly longer.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

slyguy200 wrote...

ME as far as i see it now (ignore the video just listen to the song)



This is relevant-ish

*Opened link, sees the related videos: "Linkin Park - The Catalyst"

mind = blown

[Menethra]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Menethra wrote...

As i see it whats the point in DLC?

Commander Shepard dies in just about every ending, why would i want to purchase any DLC when ultimately everything i would accomplish in it will be for nothing? Who knows what PAX will bring but as of now i wont be buying anymore bioware products, shame really.

But... but it's art! For art!

I for one don't care to pay them, just to make the walk off the end of the plank slightly longer.

Ah yes " for art "

We have dismissed that claim.

[fantonell79]

History and final in a trilogy of games of 100 hours of play started and finished in 5 years? ok easy:

I am an investor and take you to be an architect, I have to build a building of 200 floors, spend all you want, size, aesthetics, materials, type of room, furniture, facilities, invents the way you want, it's all your choice, get to work whoever you want and how many you want, tell us, become friends, love them, etc.. etc..

you make many sacrifices and make 1000 choices to finish the construction, to finished construction I come and tell you:

well, you're done, congratulations, now choose:
1) destroy the building with the TNT (Red)
2) destroy the building with a fusion bomb (Blue)
3) destroy the building with the acid (Green)

looks at how nice the result!!! no matter how much you will be involved in constructing the building that you wanted, you will remain only an explosion of your favorite color

Your answer is: Well if I knew before I bought a firework in 10 minutes and I saved 5 years of life

unfortunate architect Sheppard