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#76
Randalf84

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OP, when you've finished the game, we'll still be here. We wont say we told you so. All will be forgiven.

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Modifié par Nepp, 24 mars 2012 - 03:40 .


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Nepp

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I wish b iodrones would stop hiding behind the word "art"

Come up with some factual arguments instead, and use logic.

..goddamned site lag making double posts..

Modifié par Nepp, 24 mars 2012 - 03:41 .


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addiction21

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Randalf84 wrote...

OP, when you've finished the game, we'll still be here. We wont say we told you so. All will be forgiven.


I am here. I have seen it. Tell me all you want.  I still disagree.

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Nepp wrote...


I wish b iodrones would stop hiding behind the word "art"

Come up with some factual arguments instead, and use logic.

..goddamned site lag making double posts..

There is no logic to hating the endings. That is subjective opinion. BW said they will provide closure of plot holes and explain things for a more adequate closure. Sounds like they will make it logical to me.

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da mighty rEAper

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what a moron

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I dont understand the want to "change" the ending, though a bit of an anticlimax after years of playing mass effect i say it was inevitable to be honest. And it has been written the way it is and ive finished it now what is the point or reason of changing it after the fact its done how was done. All in all id say a lack of over all consequence against decisions made but truly i really dont know how it should end all i know is i have played it to that point.... move on people.

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KBomb wrote...

don-mika wrote...

KBomb wrote...
  
People did ask for a Tali romance. They asked for a Garrus romance, too.

 Also, does it matter if they do something because they know fans want it vs. fans asking for it? Either way, it isn't their vision that makes the decision, it's the fans. Casey Hudson said he never saw Garrus as a potential LI, yet—he is one.


www.me3finalhours.com/ you can find here many new interesting facts about all trilogy ;)


 
Wow, an app to explain things about the production and universe. An app that costs money for devices that are as about commercial as you can get. How very artsy. Image IPB


OK, i can nothing to do with your negativ position. Whatever i will write that nothing will change to you


/Stay positive

#84
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kbct wrote...

Another person who hasn't finished the game. Wait until you get kicked in the balls and thrown off a cliff.


Quoted for truth (though I myself lack male anatomy, the feeling was similar.)

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Shepards Pie

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So when a developer changes how a weapon does damage in a multiplayer game due to community feedback, is that any different? If not, then developers have been changing things in a game for a while.

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Well I hope this thread is still alive when I finish the game. I still, without seeing the ending, think all this outrage is part of the world epidemic that "I want what I want and I want it now". Over-entitled whatchacallits.

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Mifivestone

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I agree Jays, we all need something to winge about because it didnt exactly go as we want, as i said above not what i expected but then i am unsure really how this saga should end. Is just a shame that is has, it has been an honor to be Shepard for so long. Music was amazing, some very intense fighting in the end,and from my point of view this game is more like a movie than a muliplayer game, i will play again but in my opinion and it is only my opinion it is how it is.

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Would owning EA stock give you a right to demand a change to the ending? In essence you own a part of BioWare which means they are accountable to all of the shareholders to which you would be a part of.

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Finish the **** game THEN make smartass threads and comments OP.

Modifié par RaenImrahl, 24 mars 2012 - 04:18 .


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jaysabz wrote...

Well I'm obviously outnumbered here. I didn't like the Soprano's ending, let's re-do that. And Lost... I was confused, all the loose ends weren't tied up. Let's re-do that as well.

I didn't know this was an option!!


Lost and The Sopranos aren't interactive mediums. Mass Effect is. /

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InvincibleHero

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Shepards Pie wrote...

So when a developer changes how a weapon does damage in a multiplayer game due to community feedback, is that any different? If not, then developers have been changing things in a game for a while.

Gameplay feedback is obviously different. if gameplay does not work or needs tweaking it will be improved for everyone. Not liking a story element is subjective opinion and an affront to the credibility of the writer.

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CyberMiguel

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jaysabz wrote...

Well let me tell you, I thought the ending to Gears of War 3 was weak, but that was the ending....

Who the hell am I, or us, to demand that the ending is satisfactory?!


A CUSTOMER THAT IS NOT SATISFIED WITH THE PRODUCT.


Writers have changed the endings before, videogames have changed the ending or added epilogues because people demands it...

...why should Bioware be different?

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Guess BioWare compromised their "artistic integrity" when they made Kadian gay. At the fans request, I might add.

Modifié par Rogue Unit, 24 mars 2012 - 04:29 .


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When stargate SG1 ended it didn't exactly close a lot of plot holes, so they released two direct-to-dvd movies a while later, "Continuum" and "the Ark of truth". Therefore your tv series argument is invalid, all it takes is the will to do it.

And you're still to refute that guys' post I linked a few pages back.

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Dr. Muzyka: Or How I Learned To Stop Thinking Critically and Love the "Art".

Modifié par CrustyBot, 24 mars 2012 - 04:25 .


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Enough of this artistic integrity bullocks! Delivering an ending that does justice to the artistic directions taken throughout the the game -  choice, consequence, lore and plot consistency  - is maintaining artistic integrity! The ending is far from consistent for not only Mass Effect 3, but  the entire trilogy as whole. Just like with novels, endings are crucial in leaving a certain impression of the entire story. If that falls flat on its face the rest of the novel suffers.

Modifié par Primalrose, 24 mars 2012 - 04:32 .


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Buffy-Summers

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This is NOT art

Its pop culture video games.

Art hangs on a wall in a museum

Its danced on a stage

Are you trying to say Grand Theft Auto is "art"  

Are you trying to say The Leather Goddess of Phobes is "art"

Please.

They have to change the ending or there is no end to the debate and their DLC sales suffer

Look what happened to DA2

The controversy killed most of its post release content and that will happen again if they dont need the ending stuff in the bud.

Explaining and clarifying it just makes them seem smug and superior

Oh you OBVIOUSLY didnt understand our art ending therefore we must treat you like a child and explain it to you

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Sabin Stargem

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Art, while difficult to define, is something that all of forms of media can obtain, be they videogames, anime, radio dramas, or the Belgian comics that are on my shelf. The ending to Mass Effect 3, or Mass Effect as an whole, offends me on the artistic level and as an person who enjoys good stories. The artistic integrity of Mass Effect suffers from having an ending that runs completely counter to what came before in the series. Correcting the flaws in the ending would help maintain artistic integrity, not hinder it. Saying otherwise would simply support hubris, allowing artists to become sloppy.

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OP is a troll -.- can't be serious

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