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[JamesT91]

Im sure its all been said before, so im just reiterating a point, we dont see enough of jack or any of the ME2 romances and would really appreciate some form of dlc to expand that

[Rip The Reaper]

Aver88 wrote...

I just played scene in Prugatory and well...now I don't see even small reason why she don't wanna join Shepard. She said that her students are spread out in various alliance units. So they are in many different places - she even can't be with them. Her main duty is to manage their assignments and I don't see why she can't do this from Normandy. It has a connection with Alliance fleet. 

GothamLord wrote...

The whole Purgatory scene is rushed. The only decent line in the whole thing being, "God, you make the best mistakes." If they could come up with an excuse for Tali, who was currently an Admiral of the Quarian Fleet to put aside her responsibilities to go run around with Shepard, or Liara trying to double as the Shadow Broker, there is no real excuse for Jack not to drop everything to join up. Others had far more important and time consuming things going but were still able to be at Shepard's side.

Yes I agree with the above and to add some more thoughts to it... I think Jack as a character would've complemented those that are already there as far as attitude and personality. I bit more diversity aboard the Normandy in terms of that would've been a good move in my opinion.

Modifié par Rip The Reaper, 27 mars 2012 - 09:41 .

[demonic_cookie]

Jack DLC is currently the only thing I would buy from the ME team, so hell yes DLC. Even if she doesn't want to leave her kids (which is adorable btw, and I wouldn't like her to change), Shepard can always go help her for a bit. Or, hell, give us a shore leave mission. When did a sci-fi character ever managed to get through shore leave without getting into deep trouble?

[Aver88]

demonic_cookie wrote...

Jack DLC is currently the only thing I would buy from the ME team, so hell yes DLC. Even if she doesn't want to leave her kids (which is adorable btw, and I wouldn't like her to change), Shepard can always go help her for a bit. Or, hell, give us a shore leave mission. When did a sci-fi character ever managed to get through shore leave without getting into deep trouble?

Well, as she mentioned her are scattered in many alliance units, so it's not like she would leave them or something if she would join Shepard.

I can't see Shore Leave happening. It would have to happen on Citadel as it's the only Hub zone in ME3 and there are only 3 types of enemies in ME3 (Geth, Cerberus, Reapers). So it would have to end up with another attack of Cerberus attack on Citadel or with long talking scene. I don't see them making long talking scene and Cerberus attack we already had.

Modifié par Aver88, 28 mars 2012 - 09:50 .

[Firmijn]

Mass Effect 3 needs more Jack. Its what saves the universe

[Aver88]

Firmijn wrote...

Mass Effect 3 needs more Jack. Its what saves the universe

Yeah, nothing can stop her biotic powers... and those lips.... <3

[Grimblue]

I was hoping the eighth squadmate would be your choice. So you when you go to Grissom Academy you could recruit Jack right there, but she''d want your opinion on who to leave in charge of the Biotics

Prangley would be the renegade choice.
Rodriguez would be Paragon.
and Having Sander choose would be neutral.

then the next squadmate, would be like Liara in ME2, unable to fight by your side, but they can still help you from the side lines. But then I'd come upon the moral quandary of choosing Jack or Kasumi.

Jack also deserves a better romance scene, the dance was a funny joke, but... it just needs to be improved.

[Jack-FTW]

Firmijn wrote...

Mass Effect 3 needs more Jack. Its what saves the universe

[cbutz]

I approve of DLC for the ME 2 Big 4 (Miranda, Jack, Jacob, Thane)

[onchristieroad]

I really loved Jack, and she got even better in ME3, but she was very short-changed (like most ME2 romances). Still; on NG+ and I still can't help re-romancing her a second time: I'd never go for boob-job Ashley over the awesomeness that is the psychotic biotic!

[Aver88]

Anybody who want to see DLC about Jack and Jack as companion should: 
 
Post feedback in official topic.
http://social.biowar...ex/10098213/207

And ask for DLC via twitter:
Mike Gamble - Produer of ME - he will be at PAX 
Mac Walter - Head Writter of ME - he made Jack
Official ME twitte

Modifié par Aver88, 29 mars 2012 - 02:34 .

[Master Shiori]

I support more dialogue/romance content for Jack.

Poor girl really drew a short end of the stick in ME3. I mean, 2 conversations and not even a love scene?!

[Aver88]

Master Shiori wrote...

I support more dialogue/romance content for Jack.

Poor girl really drew a short end of the stick in ME3. I mean, 2 conversations and not even a love scene?!

The worst thing is that she has only 8 exclusive lines as LI. 8 lines!

[Aver88]

Master Shiori wrote...

I support more dialogue/romance content for Jack.

Poor girl really drew a short end of the stick in ME3. I mean, 2 conversations and not even a love scene?!

The worst thing is that she has only 8 exclusive lines as LI. 8 lines!

So I hope that we will get something more than dialogue/romance content as recomposition. She should be a real companion, her model is already deigned for this.

[istle]

I would very much like the Javik-DLC, only with Jack. Compared with Zaeed or Kasumi, Javik had so much more dialogue and he even had real cutscenes outside of their respective recruitment or Loyalty Mission. Though we all know Javik was already in the game before they decided to make him DLC. But because they made Javik DLC they have raised the bar with character-based DLC.

Essentially I want the same kind of treatment Liara got. And to have that they apparently need to make Jack a Squadmate. After hearing others in this forum mostly agree on that Liara, Kaidan, Ashley and Garrus got the best romance treatment in ME3. And they are, of course, all Squadmembers.

If Jack was originally supposed to be a Squadmate, which I'm pretty much convinced of. Then I think Jack has the best chance of becoming a Squadmate by upcoming DLC than any other past ME2-Squadmember.

Thane and Jack are the only ones that have their "spot" on the Normandy untouched by other characters. And I very much doubt that BioWare is going to undo Thane's predicament. That leaves only Jack.

Modifié par istle, 29 mars 2012 - 03:28 .

[kumquats]

*bump*

I want Jennifer to get laid. Do it BW and take all my money. =D

[Aver88]

kumquats wrote...

*bump*

I want Jennifer to get laid. Do it BW and take all my money. =D

And my car!

[10K]

kumquats wrote...

*bump*

I want Jennifer to get laid. Do it BW and take all my money. =D

I thought I was passionate about Jack, but after reading this. LOL

[Jenuviel Jones]

Assuming the ending does get altered in some fashion, more Jack would be at the very top of my list. She's been my favorite character of the series, and is one of my favorite sci-fi characters of any medium. She's strong but vulnerable, she's damaged but unbroken, she's a survivor with self-destructive instincts, she has a short temper and a sharp wit. She's just..awesome.

In many ways, she reminds me of Lisbeth Salander, who's another of my favorite characters. Add Courtenay Taylor's pitch-perfect voicework to such a wonderfully drawn personality, and she just screams for more screen time..which she never gets. I'd certainly pay extra* for the privilege of seeing and hearing significantly more from her. Even if it never happens, the group in charge of her dialogue and character model should be very proud of their work.

*As mentioned, once the ending's fixed. As it is, I don't want to get even deeper into her story only to see it end in misery. She's been through enough.

Modifié par Jenuviel Jones, 29 mars 2012 - 10:35 .

[Aver88]

Jenuviel Jones wrote...
In many ways, she reminds me of Lisbeth Salander, who's another of my favorite characters.

Yeah, I love punkish female characters. It's pity that there is only so few of them, especially in games.

[Jenuviel Jones]

Aver88 wrote...

Jenuviel Jones wrote...
In many ways, she reminds me of Lisbeth Salander, who's another of my favorite characters.

Yeah, I love punkish female characters. It's pity that there is only so few of them, especially in games.

It's not even so much that they're punk as it is why they're punk. They both went through such horrific events in their childhoods that they ended up using their appearance as armor: tattoos, extreme haircuts, piercings - it all serves to keep people away from them. For them, it's definitely not "Hot Topic" punk; they're not creating a counter-culture image so they'll get street cred, they're essentially mounting heads on pikes to keep tresspassers away. There is some anti-authority sentiment from them, however, as both were all but destroyed by people or organizations with power.

Anyway, yeah, great characters. =)

[Aver88]

You pretty much nailed it. It's sad that there is no that many developers "brave" enough to make such character. I like them much more than all those nice and flattering gals.

[Vandermint]

I too want to throw in my request for more Jack content.

Here's how my Shepherd developed: When I started ME1, not knowing anything about the game, I'm probably the rare person who decided the default Shep wasn't jerky enough. So I gave him blonde hair and a sneer but otherwise kept the whole space marine thing.

And I played him to type: my Shepherd was generally kind and loyal with squad mates, but pure renegade with everyone else. The Council died, the Rachni Queen died, and so did pretty much everyone else in his path of vengeance.

And that's pretty much how things carried over into ME2...until we encountered Jack. My renegade Shepherd took a long look at Jack and realized that while he'd never been through the things she had, he was still on a dark path. In a way, renegade Shepherd saw the pain and anguish in Jack and was redeemed by her, and at the same time then reached out to her and aided in her own path away from the darkness. When people dismiss Jack as just the "tough talking punk chick" I believe they are missing out on the only true (or at least the best) story of redemption in the ME universe.

And in my Shepherd's case, it became a mutual story of redemption (and love), as she and Shepherd pulled away from renegade and went toward paragon, seeing there was a better way than always being fueled by rage and hate.

The pitiful encounters in ME3 between Shepherd and Jack, including their rekindling their romance by dancing, is almost insulting to the team who developed the intense emotional relationship between the two characters in ME2. The decision in ME3 to default back to the tough b--ch stereotype doesn't honor where Jack was at the end of ME2.

I don't know if I've been very eloquent, but I ask you: please create additional content for Jack that honors not the "F--- off" Jack so many ME2 players ended up with, but the fully realized, complicated, emotionally vulnerable Jack that was the best Jack. She's worth it.

Modifié par Vandermint, 30 mars 2012 - 03:25 .

[TripleLife]

@Vandermint My Shepard was paragon all the way, but I agree 100% with the last two paragraphs. Great post!

[Aver88]

Remember to keep BW under preasure , also you may want to check our action in topic about Jack. 
 
Post feedback in official topic.
http://social.biowar...ex/10098213/207

And ask for DLC via twitter:
Mike Gamble - Produer of ME - he will be at PAX 
Mac Walter - Head Writter of ME - he made Jack
Official ME twitte