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[chengthao]

kinda disappointed then but i'll see what this "new content" is, is it new options (like Shepard surviving) or is it just a new color (not just green, blue, orange/red), maybe they'll add yellow or brown

Modifié par chengthao, 24 mars 2012 - 03:23 .

[RedMike512]

Don't explain, please. Change!

[rabidsmurf]

I'm cool with that. I'm happy to give them a chance to elaborate on what the heck happened. lol

[Docmeff22]

It's also possible these are "consumer tests" to gauge the level of reaction to various ideas. This could be a research experiment by Bioware to see what they are truly going to have to invest. I'm sure EA is telling them "the best, but cheapest possible resolution" to this catastrophe.

Like I said in previous posts that this is a defining moment for the future of Bioware. This could easily become a situation where a fairly young company that had so much potential has commited business suicide.

[kalle90]

PresidentCowboy wrote...
They'd need to get a ton of voice actors back in a hurry.

It just seems like an impossible DLC to pull off. Looking forward to seeing how they handle it though.

A ton? I would assume something like DLCs in general, meaning 5-10 important characters, plus possibly some random soldiers who can be voiced by anyone.

[Necrotron]

Considering there is no 'canon' for Mass Effect, I would like an optional ending DLC that 'changes' the ending. That way you can keep the current one if you like it, or download the new one if you don't.

Win/win.

[Black Jaguar Risc]

earthonline wrote...

 see here:

from @masseffect:
http://imgur.com/eMYVd 

they say:
"Not changed, but we are creating new content to clarify and add closure"

DIscuss

Do you think that is enough? Will it satisfy the fans?

For reference, here is the list of current endings:
ME3 Endings List

Great so they messed up the ending and I have to buy a DLC just to clarify things ?! Sorry Bioware but this is major let down for me. To me Bioware is not the company they used to be, for DAO2 and now ME3...

[EagleScoutDJB]

 I for one won't be buying any DLC or games with EA on them till I know more about the changes they are making.  The ending as it is does not fit the themes or style of the game or make any sense.  These games have been about weighing your options, figuring out which one best fit to the way you are playing the game and then saying "The hell with you I'm doing it my way", and that's totally taken away at the end.

[Noelemahc]

earthonline wrote...

 see here:

from @masseffect:
http://imgur.com/eMYVd 

they say:
"Not changed, but we are creating new content to clarify and add closure"

DIscuss

Do you think that is enough? Will it satisfy the fans?

For reference, here is the list of current endings:
ME3 Endings List

Unless those changes come in as FREE FOR EVERYONE DLC or a patch, there's gonna be a lot of excrement hitting ventilation devices in here. And elsewhere as well. 

And I think that it might be enough... provided the new content can convince us the god-child was genuinely necessary as a storytelling device and DOES ACTUALLY FIT IN WITH CONTINUITY. Which right now it does not. Shepard dying for the greater good is an acceptable outcome if we can actually get any sort of confirmation of said greater good. Right now all endings point to various tastes of the same galactic holocaust, with Sol catching the brunt of it.

Why BW can't just say "we dun frelled up, we're sorry, we'll fix this!" is beyond my understanding. The words "long-term benefit despite short-term losses" doesn't mean anything anymore? Even EA's capitalist tendencies should point them towards restoring goodwill right now, methinks.

Modifié par Noelemahc, 24 mars 2012 - 04:30 .

[HermanGunther]

chengthao wrote...

kinda disappointed then but i'll see what this "new content" is, is it new options (like Shepard surviving) or is it just a new color (not just green, blue, orange/red), maybe they'll add yellow or brown

They already added brown... LOL

[Kaidan Fan]

I won't buy DLC that just "clarifies" the ending for me.  The ending was bad, but I'm not stupid which is what that implies.  If it's not additional ending(S) I'm not going worry about it and I certainly won't bother with DLC that occurs before the ending.

[DVZ]

I was happy to mong about in multiplayer waiting for potential new ending DLC to be announced in April. The endings as they stand destroy any and all single player replay value for me. And now this announcement? Makes me want to go back to playing Battlefield 3. *Shudder*

[_symphony]

bye BioWare.

[RayVelocity]

I agree they have wrote themselves in to a dead corner which inculde the whole story and the commercial station.
I had to admit Bioware is stereotying, inflexible and stupid this time.
Everyone are holding their dollars untill they were saitisfied.

[Ravensfang]

Guys, relax... just wait for them to release the DLC... It's freaking BioWare, they are gonna blow our minds. Play the ending again, keep the indoctrination theory in mind, watch the facts, notice how you will like it WAY more than at the first time.

[earthonline]

dbollendorf wrote...

 I for one won't be buying any DLC or games with EA on them till I know more about the changes they are making.  The ending as it is does not fit the themes or style of the game or make any sense.  These games have been about weighing your options, figuring out which one best fit to the way you are playing the game and then saying "The hell with you I'm doing it my way", and that's totally taken away at the end.

well I am sure once the DLC comes out we will know what it has words spread fast nowadays lol

[Malice1979]

Bioware are in a bad position they either "clarify" the ending which basically means that they think a large portion of their own fanbase are idiots who need their hands held or they actually add to or even change the ending which in many peoples eyes would be an admission that they released an incomplete game.

As for my opinion the ending as it is is a broken load of rubbish that makes ZERO sense and simple clarification won't change that for me.

SPACE MAGIC.

[Sakanade]

T-Bone101 wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Er...
I found a pic of Liara "as god brought her" on the link that you gave.

WOW I just noticed that since you said something lol

you deserve a cookie lol

Full of win.

[NY ASS4551N]

I can't believe some people in this thread. You guys hate the endings because they didn't make sense and then you guys bash Bioware for putting sense to it? SMH.

[Tazzmission]

NY ASS4551N wrote...

I can't believe some people in this thread. You guys hate the endings because they didn't make sense and then you guys bash Bioware for putting sense to it? SMH.

thats the bsn for you

in fact alot of posters have stated they wanted an epoilouge for closure and it may happen but as you can see you still see a bunch of whiney sppoiled brats


and its fans like that why i say bioware shouldnt release any dlc because look how they act

its like this forum is filled with people in huggies or something

Modifié par Tazzmission, 24 mars 2012 - 11:26 .

[Vaktathi]

NY ASS4551N wrote...

I can't believe some people in this thread. You guys hate the endings because they didn't make sense and then you guys bash Bioware for putting sense to it? SMH.

The issue here is that it doesn't make sense in more ways than just the story. The way it is executed and carried out violates the established artistic precedent of the trilogy up until that points and the reader-writer contract up until that point, and fails to give Shepard options/ways out they have have had in literally every other situation posed to them. 

On top of that, the ending is a literal re-skin of that from the 12 year old game DeusEx, same 3 options in the same red/blue/green color coding. 

Additionally, there's just too many plotholes that can't be "clarified" short of either

A: Space Magic

or 

B: basically having to pretend the ending was something other than it was presented as (e.g. Indoctrinated).


Either way there, they're having to change the endings to be something else, so why not just go the full monty and redo the whole damn thing instead of patching something that'll never stand well on its own anyway. 


On top of that, it also doesn't help that the ending is 98% identical no matter what color you choose or if you played the bare minimum 10 hours of ME3 to beat it or played all 3 ME games and all DLC's. You still get the same primary end results and plotholes. 

"Clarifying" isn't going to help any of these issues. They could do an epilogue and filling of *some* plotholes, but this ending is just too borked in too many ways, and the effort to make it work would basically be a lengthy and resource-heavy re-write anyway, so why not just do a real re-write anyway? 

Modifié par Vaktathi, 24 mars 2012 - 11:34 .

[kalle90]

Vaktathi wrote...
"Clarifying" isn't going to help any of these issues. They could do an epilogue and filling of *some* plotholes, but this ending is just too borked in too many ways, and the effort to make it work would basically be a lengthy and resource-heavy re-write anyway, so why not just do a real re-write anyway? 

Agreed, but in case everything fails I'd settle if credits screen was replaced with a huge novel of what happened "Wrex moved to Tuchanka... Jacob had a...Someone died during the battle because she was in frontline..."

That would have to be free of course and still barely helping at best.

[Versus Omnibus]

I never really expected them to change the endings, and in a way I think they shouldn't, just so long as the material tells me what happens afterwards.

[Atakuma]

Versus Omnibus wrote...

I never really expected them to change the endings, and in a way I think they shouldn't, just so long as the material tells me what happens afterwards.

Yeah, I'm okay with just knowing what the hell happened.

[earthonline]

Versus Omnibus wrote...

I never really expected them to change the endings, and in a way I think they shouldn't, just so long as the material tells me what happens afterwards.

like what do you want to know? I mean either Shepard died or lived, what else can they clarify (that he lived "happily ever after?"

And I guess we want to see what happened to the Normandy crew?